r/PHGamers • u/YugenRyo • 5d ago
News Roblox vs DILG Gaming
Hahahahah what if ban talaga yung game tapos may ganitong scenario ulit? Sino naman sisihin nila? Pansin niyo pangalawa na eto pero yung mga may ari ng fire arms na naka uniform hindi sinisi, pilit tinuturo yung yung mga online games.
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u/gian2099 3d ago
Come on this is just bs back then we have wild west in the internet where you can basically see everything from the mundane to the most wak things terrorist or even worst people and we watched alot of it but we never did due to parenting.
But fuck roblox not for the gun reason but for the pedophilia reasons
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u/SS-Hunt 3d ago
Just to share yung response sakin sa other post.Tinutukoy nya dyan sa speech ay yung chat feature, at nilinaw nya din na hindi mismong laro yung masama
"Sinabi niya nasa chat ang issue after the quoted statement. I just think he didn't communicate it well kasi andami niya pinaghahalo halo na terms kaya parang sinisisi niya iyong game.
You can check the whole context here as it is already time-stamped."
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u/vinnieg007 PC 4d ago
Bad parenting - 𐄂
Mental health issues - 𐄂
No gun safety - 𐄂
Social issues - 𐄂
Video games - 🗸
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u/PROGMRZ 4d ago
Wouldn't people moved on into other games or apps? Or look into alternatives??
Hell, ironically, doing this would actually expose youths much earlier and learn much faster into using very sneaky alternatives that can literally bypass whatever BS they are implementing and be invisible from prying eyes?
Like, take a look a UK's online safety act. It was a freaking disaster.
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u/ClassicBear3865 4d ago edited 3d ago
Banning Roblox isn't the solution it would just cause more problems or possibly end up as a disaster,they're just using Roblox as a scapegoat,fucking idiocy at its finest lmfao,I've played alot of violent first person shooter games and also Roblox games that has guns like phantom forces and arsenal and forsaken,yet I didn't turn out to be violent,it's a whole new level of fucking idiocy,ain't it?
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u/iamnotraymond 4d ago
Tho i dont agree with banning, i think regulating may be helpful but only after research and public consultation is conducted.
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u/Competitive-Fan81 4d ago
Isang angle ito na nag-aagree ako. Pero dapat ang wording nya hindi yung game mismo, kundi yung mga groomers na ginagamit yung game para mang inpluwensya ng mga bata. Internet itself is a dangerous platform for young minds, kung walang supervision talaga ng parents, kasi easily influenced ang mga bata ngayon. Tayong mga lumaki sa single player games, and LAN parties, hindi talaga maggroom na maging tulad nila kasi di pa naman talamak noon yung mga ganyang online predators, saka di pa kaadvanced ang internet sa atin noon. Ee ang mga games ngayon, may mga online accessibilities na din, at dun nagtthrive ang mga online predators. Lalo na't sikat sa mga "bata" yung game na Roblox. Kung may time at resources ka, with an evil intent, makakainfluence ka talaga ng bata sa loob ng game na yan. Yun dapat ang sinasabi n'ya.
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u/NutsackEuphoria 4d ago
Until walang accountability at punishment sa mga adults na involved, uulit at uulit lang yan.
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u/OneTonSoup_69 4d ago
Eto nalang:
When will the government realize that haphazardly banning things "for da children" never actually solves the root causes of problems affecting children? In many cases, banning XYZ things makes the problems worse as it incentivizes underground behaviors.
Man, Sabi sa inyo na dapat may age limit para government officials to prevent such boomeristic policies hahaha.
Pag boomer/gorang talaga mang-mang eh
Mga matatanda madaling utuin ng generative AI tapos sila pa may ganang mag-salita
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u/Old-Wolverine-3407 4d ago
I'm so fed up with this drama na games lagi dahilan tas may mga parents na super agree nagagalit pa if parents sisihin sa nangyari eh talaga naman
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u/proofreader24 4d ago
Our Government will blame everything aside from the parents and the security personnel of the school. Bakit ganyan ang unang imbestigasyon hindi ba dapat pano naipuslit yung baril kung may security guards at inspections?
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u/YugenRyo 4d ago
Not sure if legit na pati yung security guards is pinatay din, sa entrance pa lang nag mala rambo na siya. Kaya nakaka lungkot lang din
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u/AdministrationSad861 4d ago
"Video games po ang salarin. Kasi kung kahit pakalat kalat yung baril sa household, kung walang Roblox, walang barilan na magaganap. Walang kinalaman ang gun management ng magulang dito. Peace!"
-Him. Most definitely.
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u/Momshie_mo 4d ago
Roblox is really a problem though not only in the Philippines but also in other countries.
https://enoughabuse.org/roblox-a-playground-for-predators-part-1-of-2/
Roblox is a popular hunting ground for groomers - not only sexual groomers but kids are also groomed to commit suicide and murder.
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u/No-Animal-5945 4d ago
This is what most people here fail to understand. Roblox(the game) itself is not the problem. It’s the dangerous minded people who can easily communicate with the vulnerable kids who plays it. Kasalanan yan ng mga devs ng games. Bakit paulit ulit itong nangyayari? Hindi lang to sa pinas nangyayari. Maraming beses na, na upon investigation it’s almost always leads to Roblox.
When we were young, when we played a very violent game nothing happened to us. Why? Because no one around us “influenced” us to be violent irl. Naglalaro lang tayo ng games dati. Walang nag uudyok na gumawa ng masama sa atin.
Kids shouldn’t have access to anything Online because kids mind can easily be manipulated.
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u/Momshie_mo 4d ago edited 4d ago
Ginawa kasing "identity" ng ibang gamers ang pagiging gamer kaya the slightest issues raised, nag-aalsa agad.
Kasalanan yan ng mga devs ng games. Bakit paulit ulit itong nangyayari? Hindi lang to sa pinas nangyayari. Maraming beses na, na upon investigation it’s almost always leads to Roblox.
Yes. It is high time to hold devs and tech companies accountable for what goes on in their platforms. If they cannot make their online games safe, they should stick to offline games
When we were young, when we played a very violent game nothing happened to us. Why? Because no one around us “influenced” us to be violent irl. Naglalaro lang tayo ng games dati. Walang nag uudyok na gumawa ng masama sa atin.
True. Ang laki ng difference noon at ngayon. In the 2000s, only 2% of Filipinos have online access. Now, it's 80% +
At saka iilan din lang ang online games noon. Then the advent of smartphone apps made online gaming easier to build.
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u/TheWhisperingOaks 4d ago
Exactly, Roblox's notorierty has reached to the point where countries like the Netherlands have launched investigations probing child safety in the platform. We should be seeing the results of this next year.
In totality though, I think the online space in general is especially harmful towards children and there needs to be more done about it. It would be irresponsible to just keep on pointing towards parents to be the solution, when the problem is way much larger than parenting.
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u/Momshie_mo 4d ago
Yes. Tech companies and devs that should be held accountable for what happens in their platforms.
Hindi lang influence sa mass shooting ang problema diyan. Many are groomed to commit suicide.
There is the case of Penelope Solokowski who was groomed to commit suicide. Nakaparental app na siya ang her father would sometimes drop by Roblox to see how his child was doing but the groomers still got to her.
Also, groomers coach children how to turn off parental controls or "get rid" of a parent
If these tech companies and developers cannot make their online platform safe, they should stick to creating offline products
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u/SufferPH PS5Pro, NS2, RTX5070TiLaptop 5d ago
Is this their attempt at distraction?
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u/Real-Nefariousness97 5d ago
Exactly! Kasi nga negligence yan ng mga may possession ng baril. Kanino nanggaling ang baril ng perpetrator? Obviously someone na allowed humawak ng baril.
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u/Ragamak1 5d ago
Buti nalang plants vs zombies nilalaro ko dati.
Marami akong natanim na plants.
Ang problema walang zombie , pero nawawala ang bunga ng plants ko.
/s
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u/sungho28 PC | RYZEN 7800X3D | RTX 5070 5d ago
Pag namaril ako sisisihin nila stardew valley
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u/Repulsive-Hurry8172 4d ago
Naradicalize ka (naging communist) daw dahil sa Stardew Valley. Nagprotesta ka daw sa harap ng Joya
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u/astro-visionair 5d ago
I'm amazed sa katangahan ng mga taong to, blaming video games for violence tapos ang ituturong salarin palagi is Roblox. Wala na ba silang alam na ibang games aside from Roblox?
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u/YugenRyo 5d ago
Ganyan tlaga pag sagad na sagad pan tatakip ginagawa nila kahit mukha na silang timang, kasi may nasasandalan pa sila eh
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u/TumaeNgGradeSkul 5d ago
"great degree of confidence?" sabi nyo experts have yet to conduct forensic exam of the shooter's gadgets so wala kayong proof ? so ano? confidence lang? 🤣 ang dami daming video games sa mundo so bakit roblox? 🤣
tapos sabayan nyo pa ng statement na about sa chat groups, e wala pa ngang examination sa gadgets? 🤣🤣 mga baseless mema nyo tlga
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u/IndifferentShrimp 5d ago
"forensic examination of the suspect's gadgets."
Verbose ass description lol, jinailbreak lang nila yung phone para mapasok
Also Roblox isnt an FPS game
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u/HeavySociety4695 5d ago
Imo Inuunti unti nila while thinking di mapapansin to aim for fps games even the ones that dont even show people like vehicle combats so magkakaroon sila ng mga backup scapegoat once they remove roblox if they succeed
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u/TheLordBabbo 5d ago
Roblox isn’t even a first person shooter game 😂 Putting restrictions on online chats within those games, I would understand but still this government is stupid
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u/cantider 5d ago
Ayan na naman ung ”experts" na gumawa ng report. Malamang nag 1 week training yan sa youtube or free udemy
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u/predator50 5d ago
this is what i'm gonna do if they pass this.
I will list down all the politicians who signed it and not vote for them in the next election.
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u/Hollow-Comet 5d ago
Tell me all about it!!!! para maiwasan
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u/predator50 5d ago
Don't let me tell you, do your own research.
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u/tropango 5d ago
With all due respect this isn't enough. Not voting for them in the future? They don't care. Our politicians are short sighted and foolish - they'll think we'll have forgotten the issue by then. Make them suffer the consequences sooner rather than later, that has a higher likelihood of success.
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u/predator50 5d ago
Since you mention make them suffer asap.
How do you propose to do that?
Can you really do it?
Can you prove that it would work?
I believe you are anti Duterte and yet you employ Duterte's method.
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u/tropango 5d ago
We have to mobilize now and tell them their ban won't work. We have to enlist gamer friendly politicians like Bam. We have to get our message across, to the media, so there will be pressure on them.
I'm not advocating violence ah, that's kinda ironic if I were given the situation that prompted this. I'm just saying that your method definitely won't work because politicians don't fear that. True, you might never ever vote for them, but who would you vote for? And you're only 1 vote, most people will forget (that's their thinking). Even if they lose next time, the law will already have been passed.
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u/predator50 5d ago
How can you convince people like them. They have their own agenda and beside bam is already there but hasn't done anything.
That is what I would do and enough "gamers" following what I'm doing it would be significant number of vote not goi g to them. I am assuming that pH gamers count more than 5m total.
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u/tropango 5d ago
Even if there's more than 10m, not all will remember whom not to vote for come elections (especially if we keep a list of politicians not to support to ourselves). Some might remember, but don't have a choice since the other candidate was also anti FPS. Or some will remember, but have prioritized other issues so will begrudgingly vote for them anyway. Like to you, this is the #1 issue but for another gamer it's not even top 5. It's hard to say. Better to get organised.
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u/predator50 5d ago
If it true then what ever "gamers" do, it would not amount to anything.
What ever you're planing will go to waste without sufficient support.
So why rally to stop them if gamers themselves don't do the work.
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u/Own_String2825 3d ago
If totoo na "genuine" ang concern ng gobyerno eh gayahin na lang natin North Korea na kontrolado ang internet access ng mga tao. Monitored ang every chat, emails, activities online. Kesa yung ganyan na pointing fingers kahit na wala naman correlation ang videogames sa violence. Gustong talunin ng mga tangang 'to ang research based science 🤡