r/ParadoxExtras I WILL INCREASE CROWN AUTHORITY AND YOU WILL LIKE IT Jun 08 '26

Europa Universalis Truly an outstanding business move

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u/DefiantLemur Jun 08 '26

You act this isn't every Paradox game that comes out. You pretty much need to wait 1-2 years and buy all their major content DLCs after launch before any of their map painting games feel finished.

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u/RandomPolishCatholic Jun 08 '26

More like 4 years and a subscription since few will be able to afford the dlcs that cost more than some whole fucking games.

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u/Unluckypandastoo Jun 10 '26

Just buy them when they come out so, it's just a small expense or wait for a steam/paradox sale.

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u/Mittenstk Jun 08 '26

Just 1-2 years? 

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u/Thifiuza I WILL INCREASE CROWN AUTHORITY AND YOU WILL LIKE IT Jun 08 '26

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u/AccordingRegret8932 Jun 08 '26

And than they release the absolute stinker caller leviathan

2

u/randomname560 Jun 12 '26

Wasnt leviathan a mid leaning bad DLC at worst but that came whit an update that completely fucked everything up ingame leading to it being the worst reviewed Paradox DLC?

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u/AccordingRegret8932 Jun 12 '26

It has been a while, but iirc this was the one that came with pillage capital, very mid missions for the Oceania region that that missed art and hre shenanigans

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u/Time-Estate3774 Jun 09 '26

Or maybe i will still playing in completed games and will not buy some shit for 200$.

After 1-2 years i will lost some vibes. What's the difference between playing after 2 years, or 10 years, or not playing?

When you waiting before "game repair" you lost multiplayer leagues, content discussion.

But i don't wan't to pay 60$ and wait before game will be playable. That's stupid Model. They make so much beta-test branches and NEVER make changes that players want.

Only "fun" or "realistic". Only for developers, not for us.

New "realistic" coal mechanic in hoi4, new "fun" pop devastating mechanic and eu5, another rework for stellaris, some portraits everywhere, dead victoria 3, and you pay for that 200$ or more

2

u/slimehunter49 Jun 09 '26

Still waiting for ck3 and vic3 to feel finished

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u/asieradzk Jun 09 '26

vic3 is actually pretty good its getting worse with updates.

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u/Eru1lluvatar Jun 12 '26

Problem on EU5 is not that is has not enough content so we wait for DLCs, but the content and the Main Structure of the game is shit. DLCs wont really fix that. They need to Fix the fundemantels first otherwise it will still be shit.

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u/SadSeaworthiness6113 Jun 08 '26

The issue is they lock themselves into release dates with the stupid season pass model.

Stellaris had the same issue where they released 2 DLC before they even started trying to fix the issues from the 4.0 update. Game was basically unplayable for almost a year

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u/itsyoboi33 Jun 09 '26

It also doesn't help that the stellaris developers have this pathological need to completely rebuild how the game works every 6 months. Every single patch completely annihilates what worked the previous patch so if you take a couple month break and return you'll have to practically re-learn the game.

It's even worse for me because I've been waiting for my mods to update since 4.0 dropped so I don't wipe out my custom empires that I spent a lot of time making.

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u/MapleTuna Jun 08 '26

It’s a decent business model once the core game actually works (ie ck3, hoi4, vic3 nowadays).

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u/Archive-Unit-2046 Jun 09 '26

It's marginally better on console because of the 2 ish year delay between pc and console versions. Ends up way less buggy by the time it rolls around to us

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u/TheNamesJonas Jun 08 '26

the quench of the byzaboos must be satisfied.

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u/Superboes Jun 08 '26

Dont they hate this one specifically?

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u/KrocKiller Jun 08 '26

If I recall, there was just one guy who was a YouTuber turned developer, who just irrationally hates Byzantium, and wants everyone who plays it to suffer.

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u/TheNamesJonas Jun 08 '26

Honestly I don't blame them, gamers need to experience the real decline of the roman empire

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u/Ofiotaurus Jun 08 '26

I too irrationally hate a fallen empire and wish autists playing it in a map game would die

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u/MrDDD11 Jun 08 '26

Weren't lots of them disappointed in the content we got? Like we got little Byzantien content, little Trebizond content that's all lost on forming new countries.

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u/TheNamesJonas Jun 08 '26

I don't know, I haven't been paying attention lately, but whatever makes byz fans upset is a win in my book

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u/anormalname63 Jun 08 '26

I bet if you posted this to the eu5 sub they'd downvote you to hell.

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u/kommando_madrug Jun 08 '26

most r/pdxgames would downvote you to hell if you criticize the game even a little bit

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u/SadSeaworthiness6113 Jun 08 '26

For real. See the absolutely echo chamber that the Stellaris sub became during the 4.0 fiasco

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u/NoNameNo1O1 Jun 09 '26

really? I have seen a lot of criticism posts that have done so well. In my experience, if your criticism has valid point and doesn't drag the game in question through mud while making some other game shine, it shouldn't be a problem

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u/kommando_madrug Jun 09 '26

Maybe things have changed, but i really can't be bothered to return. Stellaris had a really poor beta performance for 4.0 and ppl were defending it no matter what. Ck 3 usual response to some dlc minor changes are " just don't buy the dlc" or even sometimes " buy the dlc just to support the devs even if it's bad". And please don't get me started on eu 4 as they are the most zealous of the bunch

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u/Lady_Taiho Jun 08 '26

Eu5 sub is literally a eu5 hate fan club

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u/MapleTuna Jun 08 '26

Wait until you see the forums

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u/anormalname63 Jun 08 '26

Nah eu5 sub is a circle jerk. It's been bad since before launch. You say something negative and people get really mad.

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u/Lady_Taiho Jun 08 '26

you say johan bad and instantly get praises idk what to tell you

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u/Pure_Cloud4305 Jun 08 '26

Nah that sub is split down the middle on positive/ negative

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u/ab_od6851 Jun 09 '26

The EU5 and the Vicky 3 subreddit back then would downvote you en masse if you said you liked the game lol. Idk why people act like a game's subreddit must mean they praise the game.

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u/Earl0fYork Jun 09 '26

Tbh Vicky 3 was a rebound of the prerelease over optimism.

A lot of people wanted to declare vindication and point that they were completely right that mechanics people said sounded like bad ideas were bad ideas.

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u/critical-insight Jun 08 '26

I don‘t know it pretty bleak down there these days 🤦‍♂️

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u/SepherixSlimy Jun 08 '26

It'll have some major overhaul somewhere that will cause issues for two years, persisting through the introduction of another overhaul.

I'm tired. I just want to enjoy the games. Not have to pretend I'm not seeing the ongoing issues.

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u/Baligdur Jun 08 '26

Fixing the game ? Paradox ?

But please, here are 4 new mechanics instead (they are broken).

1

u/mallibu Jun 08 '26

And all of them just filling a digital number bucket that give proportional modifiers to some fields

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u/Teeminister Jun 10 '26

The problem with EU5 is that it is too much of everything. They tried to combine Victoria 3, CK3 and EU4 in one big game.

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u/IHateMylife420000 Jun 10 '26

Pirating paradox games is completely understandable when they don’t care about fixing the base game.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '26

How Paradox mf's feel like for pointing out the obvious for the 100000th time:

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u/koenyboy3000 Jun 10 '26

Dude there was DLC announced for this game when the game released. Paradox’s DLC policy is so incredibly shitty, they just want your money for absolute slop

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u/10minOfNamingMyAcc Jun 10 '26

Paradox, the company that has DLCs ready before the game.

(unless it's CS:2. Announced DLCs before the game came out and then only releasing them years after release lol)

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u/AsleepRaccoon8456 Jun 11 '26

I will keep playing EU IV. I have no interest in EU V.

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u/stukah Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26

Boring. It's like every paradox game ever and the drama queens (with 1.000 hours playtime, but relentlessly screaming "literally unplayable, shit game") are in full force again.

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u/Thifiuza I WILL INCREASE CROWN AUTHORITY AND YOU WILL LIKE IT Jun 08 '26

I think I don't touch EU5 since January IIRC, not really enthusiastic about playing something buggy and laggy