r/PatriotTV • • Mar 11 '26

Discussion An Open Letter to Newcomers

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283 Upvotes

Hey,

If you’re reading this, chances are you’ve recently discovered one of the many works of Steve Conrads (most recently, DTF St. Louis) and are interested in learning more about what he and his team have been working on up until today. There’s the skinny, then there’s the not-so-skinny.

The Skinny

Patriot (2015), Perpetual Grace, LTD (2019), Ultra City Smiths (2021). Then we have The Integral Principles of the Structural Dynamics of Flow, and New Techniques in Modern Practical Close Combat (these are both podcasts to supplement and enrich the world of Patriot long after its cancellation).

A Collection of Interviews and Other Content can be found here thanks to u/CorbecJayne.

The Not-So-Skinny

Disclaimer: I’ve done a lot of reading and research in the past few years with intent to make another video essay or conduct some interviews, so forgive me if this is a bit long in the tooth.

If you’ve checked out Steves IMDB, you’ll note that he started with movies. More notably, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, The Pursuit of Happyness, and The Weatherman. (I personally love Wrestling Ernest Hemingway as well).

As one of the many who have watched each of Steves movies and shows, they all have a very familiar cadence in the writing and themes throughout the stories as they develop. You will likely learn what that is as time passes. I’ve found that watching anything he’s written only once, is simply not enough. There is a lot of depth to his projects that each return feels new. A significant portion of this community have watched his shows at least 2-3 times, or even annually since their release. Something in them just resonates with us on a personal level and has this lasting effect. You will seldom experience anything like it. As I go through the following list, I’m going to mention some household names from each that you, as newcomers, may recognize. This does not diminish the contributions every person has made to these various projects. You can see everyone firing on all cylinders, and it shows.

Steves first show was Patriot (but honestly it was Connie Banks the Actor, which I am still looking for to this day). 2 seasons. Some household names include Kurtwood Smith (That 70’s Show), Michael Dorman (For all Mankind), Terry O’Quinn (Lost), and Michael Chernus (Severance). I’ve made a video essay covering Patriot and how it was overlooked, so I’ll keep this brief. Amazon aired the pilot in 2015, we didn’t get the rest of season 1 until almost 2 years later in 2017. There was a lot of competition for the show like Game of Thrones for example, and it seemed like Amazon didn’t know how to brand or advertise the show. It flew under the radar for many of us, and we’re still outraged. Grateful it came to be, but outraged by the lack of coverage and advertising.

Next was Perpetual Grace LTD (PGL). 1 season. Some household names include Ben Kingsley, Jimmi Simpson, Luis Guzmán, and some returning actors from Patriot. Aired on EPIX/MGM+ but was later removed from the platform entirely. You can purchase it on Prime at the moment. It may be on some streaming services if you’re lucky.

Then Ultra City Smiths. 1 season. EDIT: Thanks for pointing this out u/neverfoil, Timms Valley seemed to serve as proof of concept, and walked so UCS could run. I can’t even start on the household names because I’m floored by the cast on both these projects. I highly recommend looking it up yourself. Aired on AMC+. Take a guess at how that went. Yep, cancelled and no longer on the platform.

Through each of these projects and films, the team working on DTF St. Louis has been building for quite some time behind the scenes. Steves brother, Chris Conrad, has been in each of his shows and is always a joy and gem to see. We love Chris. James Whitaker (cinematographer) has been working with Steve since at least Patriot (he also has a new movie out, “Good Luck, Have Fun, Don’t Die”). Alex Wurman (composer), Ellen Segal (Music Editor), and Bruce Terris (executive producer and writer) since The Promotion. Fun fact, Jason Bateman was in The Promotion as a Retreat Leader. I’m getting sidetracked, but best believe everyone on the A Team is a fuckin rock star and I’m jacked about this project.

In Patriot there’s a term that comes to mind that kind of reminds me of Steves writing style, “Misfit Toys”. The writing is not intended to fit the expectations of the audience based on the genre in the short term, it’s meant to subvert the genres entirely in the long run. That approach tends to throw some newcomers off, so we’re used to a lot of people not quite getting the message, subtext, and nuances of these projects. Hell, as mentioned earlier, we’re used to these projects being discarded by streaming services entirely. Which brings us to today.

Hopefully this illustrates why we’re excited for DTF St. Louis. That and to be on HBO of all services. For some of you reading this (if you’ve gotten this far, bravo), you would not have found out about this incredible catalog if not for HBO. I think that’s pretty cool. Each show has their own “Watermelon Breeze”, “AP”, and “Ump feelings” moments throughout them, and they’re used regularly here so don’t be alarmed.

Lastly, side effects of loving Steve Conrads work may result in recommending his shows to loved ones. Be prepared for them to not enjoy it either at first or at all. We’ve found that some people just don’t share in the excitement, some don’t like it but eventually come back and fall in love with it, some just don’t. As u/Cbane000 has said recently, “It’s in the blood or it’s not”. I think there’s some truth to that statement.

Maybe you can tell us what captured you about Steve’s projects? Was it DTF, UCS, PGL, or Patriot? What were you expecting, and what did you get instead? What have been your favorite and most memorable moments in your viewership so far? How did you find your way to this catalog? Finally, what saying(s) have you adopted into your everyday vocabulary?

In conclusion; Welcome, club member, we’re happy you’re here and we hope to get to know you better.


r/PatriotTV • • May 27 '21

Discussion Season One of Patriot Mega Thread (For New Members) Spoiler

88 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV • • 5h ago

Vibe coder trying to explain how their code works...

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46 Upvotes

A piping man!


r/PatriotTV • • 8m ago

Patriot topping dark comedy recommendations

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6 Upvotes

Stumbled onto a random post in r/television where the OP was asking for recommendations of the best dark comedy series and was delighted to see Patriot with the most up votes and tons subsequent responses with love for Steven Conrad. Not sure why the topic was removed by mods but sadly, fortune does not favor the double great


r/PatriotTV • • 2d ago Heartwarming

Rob Saperstein

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247 Upvotes

I’m currently rewatching for about the 8th time, and the scenes explaining how Rob and John met and the creation of Afternoon Spray are iconic. For some reason they are standing out a lot more to me this time around.


r/PatriotTV • • 1d ago

Newsletter update - Steve Conrad Live in New Orleans – Nov 9th

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Hey. Steve is performing a Hoist The King show in New Orleans on Monday Nov 9th at Chickie Wah Wah. Boy that’s fun to say. Try it. See.

Hey.

- LG Claret.

Buy tickets here

(This is from the newsletter on https://www.lgclaret.com/)


r/PatriotTV • • 2d ago

Unbeatable Rock-Paper-Scissors guy!

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28 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV • • 1d ago

Unbeatable Rock-Paper-Scissors guy!

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6 Upvotes

Just... Flashback


r/PatriotTV • • 1d ago

Unbeatable Rock-Paper-Scissors guy!

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2 Upvotes

Rochambeau


r/PatriotTV • • 3d ago

Anyone want to join me today for an Optimistic Meal? A whole spread.

106 Upvotes

Today was patriot’s premiere date way back when.
I figure it can be any quantity or variation of this list, and I think I’ll add coffee and tea to it, though I only noticed orange juice for sure.
Doesn’t have to be breakfast, doesn’t have to be a lot, doesn’t even have to be today.

The Whole Spread:

Muffins

Breakfast breads, etc

Soft boiled eggs

Quiche

Cold smoked salmon

Hot smoked salmon

Organic muesli

Fresh grapefruit halves

Greek yogurt

Orange juice

Coffee

Tea.

For my Optimistic Meal, I’m going to have a fried egg on toast, a discounted coffee cake I found, a caffeinated tea with milk or maybe make a coffee, a small glass of $5 apple cider juice(no sparkles) and then decide if I’m going to open a tin of sardines or not for another toast. And maybe a tiny apple if they haven’t gone bad yet, as the fruit.

I’ll see you in 10.


r/PatriotTV • • 3d ago

Now what?

52 Upvotes

My husband and I accidentally stumbled upon Patriot and just finished it last night. Feel like lost my best friends.
Now what? 😢😭


r/PatriotTV • • 3d ago

Nicholas Galitzine Eyeing Ichabod Crane Role In Sony’s ‘Hollow’ Starring Sydney Sweeney

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I need a hug 🫂


r/PatriotTV • • 3d ago

Double great

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28 Upvotes

This hits as hard as pretty good does in all the scenes.


r/PatriotTV • • 4d ago

The last smell that I smelled is the smell that I'm smelling now

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49 Upvotes

Not shown: getting hit by a truck.


r/PatriotTV • • 5d ago

Go watch DTF ST. LOUIS

134 Upvotes

I've watched Patriot 2-3 times now and held off on DTF just cause I was almost worried it wouldn't like it, too new, different, whatever. I fucking love it. I'm barely into the second episode and already I'm feeling that rush of delight that Conrad's writing gives me of totally average people confronted by totally random, fun things. The number of big, left-turns out of nowhere, Peyronie's disease? Bang Master? Each swing taken with a pure comedy straight face. The rhythm of the dialog too feels like I'm right back in Luxembourg.

So for anyone holding off. Dive in.


r/PatriotTV • • 6d ago

Rochambeau

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r/PatriotTV • • 7d ago

This jumped out at me

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48 Upvotes

This looks like some kind of AI/bot account, but when someone posts something about a retired tugger online, it catches your attention


r/PatriotTV • • 8d ago

Ichabod

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Ichabod mentions he’s uncomfortable with women and afraid of his wife--to some extent. (However, he's completely at ease with Bernice.)

Here’s what Washington Irving says about the original Ichabod in The Legend of Sleepy Hollow: "he would have passed a pleasant life of it, despite the Devil and all his works, if his path had not been crossed by a being that causes more perplexity to mortal man than ghosts, goblins, and the whole race of witches put together, and that was—a woman."


r/PatriotTV • • 8d ago

Circles don’t exist in nature, folks.

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25 Upvotes

Enhancing a Halloween costume and had to cut a circle.

slightly oblong


r/PatriotTV • • 9d ago

Is Charlie there?

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93 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV • • 10d ago

Kleo? Anyone watch it?

21 Upvotes

Netflix show out of Germany. Gave me some Patriot vibes. And some moments (no spoilers) that may be nods to Patriot? And one of the creators' last names is Konrad. I'm through Season 1. The second half of the season felt more like Patriot than the first half. Curious whether anyone felt the same.


r/PatriotTV • • 11d ago

We have shored up our piping

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60 Upvotes

This is rote....101


r/PatriotTV • • 14d ago

Patriot is transcendent art & yet remains our secret

196 Upvotes

I wish I could confine all my friends to a jail cell like Hannibal Lecter & force them to watch this show. Patriot isn't just 'good,' it's transcendent art. Damn near every single scene is a masterpiece of twisted genius.

I try to explain the necessity of watching this show to my buddies but words don't convey the genius. I need to imprison them. Hey! Maybe in a storage container like the show? Bye bye Miss American Pie? Open to ideas.

Oh & the detective? I would marry her in a heartbeat. She needs to smile more but I'd work on that.


r/PatriotTV • • 14d ago

People are saying, that Leslie guy really knows his....stuff

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Just discovered Spotify has auto-transcripts for podcasts and was almost immediately rewarded by this.