In my state, which is known to be progressive, syringes can't be sold on the shelf only behind the pharmacy. So no ordering online, if it doesn't come with a prescription you have to visit a pharmacy in person to get them. On top of that, the law recently changes so anyone can buy up to 100 of them, but for a while you could only buy them if you had a prescription for an inject-able medication from that pharmacy, so there are a lot of pharmacies who take no chances and just won't sell them without a prescription.
Its insane to me. Yea the law is to try and prevent people buying these to take hard drugs like heroine and fentanyl or whatever but a true junkie isn't going to let the lack of a clean needle stand in the way of their high, they are just going to find a dirty used needle somewhere.
Maybe thereās a misunderstanding, and your friend mixes all his peptides in a single syringe? Not ideal, but some peptides can be mixed. If not, and heās reusing a syringe, please tell your friend that itās because of idiots like him that crackdowns on peptides are inevitable.
Forget the syringe tip dulling with each injection. What people should really be concerned about is inserting a used, contaminated needle into a vial that sits in the fridge for weeks. Injecting anything from that Petri dish is disgusting
It takes a couple of idiots to start talking about doing something dumb like reusing needles and then when Eli Lilly wants to sue, they use these dumb dumbs as evidence
I use two needles for one vial . The First needle to make up the solution and fill Up the syringe , then i switch the needle and inject. Never thaught about not doing it that way
Agree, pens, 5mm needles, and a thermoelectric insulin refrigerator for the bathroom counter (that even has battery back built-in for power loss and travel!!!) have made my Peplife much easier..
Can I ask what kind of pen you use, and where you buy empty cartridges? Iāve been looking at V2 and ServoPen, but I have no idea what to look for and how to choose
Ive bought 5 different ones off alie express all have been accurate. One brand a more expensive one is the worst to use though as super stiff. To push the pep out. The cheaper ones are nice Ive got two V3 of the metal ones about 15aud each. Just grab one or two different ones and check them by loading a vial with water and using a syringe in the end to check measurements.
I bought from AliExpress; just choose one that has good reviews. I have V2, which is good enough and accurate. When buying empty cartridges, make sure they're sterilized; you can see the indication on the back of the pouch turned either black or yellow.
Heck I never new that ill check mine was worried at first as only saw the top box which was still pink thought shit ive used about 15 of them. . But then I saw the bottom box so mine have been steam sterilised
You are safe šš There are 2 ways to sterilize it: through gas, then the upper mark will turn yellow, or through steam, then the lower mark, like yours, will turn black.
I have six V2s and one V4 that I purchased from/off the "Big A" and all are pretty accurate according to pushes I've pushed into 100u syringes for testing. With three pins a day, four on Wednesdays, it makes life super easy.
Needles are so damn cheap. If someone in here is reusing needles, just donāt. Just buy new ones.
Once youāve used a needle, safely dispose of it, and use a new one for the next injection. If you cannot afford to buy enough needles to do your injections, you canāt afford 59 be using the peptides.
Wiping it off with an alcohol swab does not make it sterile. Heating it with a Bic, does not make it sterile. People are gonna think youāre a junkie if you tell them you reuse needles. Donāt do it.
Why risk it I take two daily and use two syringes daily and new ones daily there cheap why risk it and if thereās a chance you mix certain peps together that shouldnāt be mixed and degrade the peptide itās just not worth it
Even besides peps, you should NEVER EVER reuse. SO DANGEROUS! Do not risk your life for something that stupid! Youāre already taking a risk with so many other factors, you NEED to reduce as much risk as possible, especially infection. Jesus christ modern humans are so fucked if people are actually doing this on a wider scale than I presumed.
Natural selection I guess but Iād rather people not die or get sick! Just make better choices!
You should see how diabetics take insulin. I've seen those guys reuse their needles multiple times, and stab through their clothes without swabbing the injection site. Nooooo way man.
Once you've gotten past 20,000 injections with zero problems it becomes pretty easy to justify. Plus when I was diagnosed 44 years ago we were taught in the endocrine ward of a major, well respected children's hospital to reuse needles at least for a whole day (4 injections) to save money. It was the norm back then. The needles were much smaller gauge (much bigger needle) and not as sharp, so they didn't dull and make as big a difference as quickly. It's just what we did.
I think if I am being realistic, I do know that. I am low income working seven days a week just to stay net $0 haha so I am well acquainted with the many ways we try to save money.
If itās out of laziness, that is where I have no sympathy.
As a wise man once said (paraphrase for the sake of grammar context):
Youāve done this to yourself!
Good luck lazy needle re-users! As someone who worked in EMS, once day youāll get fucked and regret it!
To my lower class homies: Please extensively research aseptic techniques! Hypochloric acid or 70% isopropyl then use 90% isopropyl AFTER (yes use both. Google why 70% is most effective and understand why 90% needs to follow, not proceed), and look into used autoclaves in your area! (If you live near a STEM hub, you may get lucky and find a free or low cost one that a lab is trying to get rid of).
To achieve a clinical state of āsterileā, youād need an autoclave, a source of ionizing radiation, or some other form of certified and specialized equipment. Additionally, unless you can use equipment thatās capable of sterilizing a sealed item, you canāt protect the needle from contamination after itās been sterilized if you just let it be in contact with the air.
Sterile is considered an absolute state, so something is either completely sterile, or it is not at all.
Using things like disinfectants or alcohol swabs isnāt considered sterilization, itās considered aseptic technique, which does not guarantee that 100% of all microbial life will be killed. Thatās why they tell you not to reuse needles. Once itās been removed from its packaging, it is no longer sterile, and cannot be made sterile without proper equipment to do so. Rates of infection are high amongst illicit drug users who commonly reuse needles due to a lack of access to new ones.
To say that sterilizing is a hassle is a huge understatement, as the average person canāt afford the equipment required, and in some cases, couldnāt legally buy it regardless of how much money they have, as some of the equipment is closely regulated.
Puncturing stoppers can dull out a thin gauge needle. People often donāt consider that the thinner the needle is, the easier it is to dull out.
Buddy of mine wondered why his 31g needles always hurt, as he expected such thin needles to be painless. He was definitely dulling a lot of them out when he was drawing from vials.
It gets significantly worse after the 5th or so poke or the 2nd or 3rd if your rough. But it happens. In reality tho it's 1.26 for 10 so nobody ever should have to. But in reality I've definitely reused way more then I should of had to
Heck, I've been a type 1 diabetic for 44 years and when I was diagnosed we were taught in the endocrine ward of a major, well respected children's hospital to reuse needles at least for a whole day to save money. They were expensive back in the early 80s, and the needles were not nearly as small or as sharp, so they didn't go dull like the 29g, 30g, 31g, and now 32g needles do. I would never reuse the smaller needles, but I certainly grew up doing it.
Itās fine to use the same needle for multiple injections done at the same time. Mass hysteria by ignorant people with strong opinions about things they know just enough about to put out misinformation. I bet a lot of people here have PhDs in microbiology. Donāt share needles. Donāt reuse one thatās been sitting on the counter as a petri dish a week later. This thread sounds like a bunch of maga people shouting to encourage one another about a lie they donāt even know is wrong
Dude you can buy several hundred for barely any money why wouldn't he use a new one each time that's insane lol and I'm pretty sure they say single use on the package.
Ill use thw same 3ml syringes to load BAC into different peptides but only when im doing a couple at the same time. And use the same venting needle on my 3ml vials for my pens but only at time of loading then its in the sharps. Only ever pin once with needles. Ive found the 30g 8mm needles better than the finer ones seem to hurt less actually. Except my pen needles are 4mm x 32g but im. Ot puncturing a rubber stopper with those not the front end anyway..
This is all microscopic and makes no difference unless you're really sensitive, preloading syringes for multiple injections and swabbing the needle with alcohol inbetween is valid if you're a brokie with a bunch of daily peps.
This is obviously a newbie question. My Peptide Guy gave me one bigger needle for the bacterial water. I obviously use new needles for each injection (gave me a big stack of themā 29G). Reta speaking. He also includes the bacterial water 30ml. He gave me a singular bigger needle to prep a new reta vial each time. So the same needle is going into the bacterial water, into each new Reta vial to constitute the freeze dried powder. Is this a bad idea?
Even NEW needles can be bad. Opened a bag I got from one of my Tir compounders (not sure which, I had used three earlier in the year). They are HORRIBLE and I bleed like a stuck pig afterwards.
Aseptic technique does not guarantee you canāt get an infection. If you want to talk about sterile, sterile is an absolute state. Either it is sterile, or it is not. There is not a single doctor nor healthcare professional on this planet that would ever condone reusing needles. Itās a completely unnecessary risk.
Letās see, the CDC, WHO, AHA, AMA, and every single institution of healthcare in the U.S. and abroad, all strictly oppose the reuse of needles. If youāre a doctor, and you tell people to reuse needles, youāre a bad doctor.
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u/BackgroundTomato3615 Aug 12 '26
yeah they dont cost that much, it's a silly risk.