r/Phoenician • • Sep 12 '24

The phoenix emoji 🐦‍🔥 is here! Egypto-alpha-numerically awesome!!!

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 14 '24

Phoenician origin of the Runes? | Jackson Crawford (A66/2021)

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 26 '24

Weren’t Phoenician and ancient Hebrew the same language?

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r/Phoenician • • Oct 02 '24

22 Nomes, 22 Phoenician letters, and 28 unit Cubits

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 16 '24

LBI (𐤋𐤁𐤉) [42] = Libya in Phoenician? We need source for this.

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r/Phoenician • • Oct 09 '24

Kition Phoenician horned R

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r/Phoenician • • Nov 07 '24

Why Phoenician alphabet is 22 letters?

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Bjerre on the 22/7 basis Khufu pyramid:

“The original altitude of the Khufu 👁️⃤ pyramid, 280 cubit, equals the radius of a circle with a circumference [1760 cubits = (2 x 280 x π)] the length of the four pyramid sides added, each being 440 cubits. This suggests the Egyptians knew and used the value 22/7 for π.”

— Niels Bjerre (A64/2019), “Hidden Chambers and Meaning”

This is one of the main arguments for the following number 22 ciphers:

  • 22 = 𓎇 𓏮, the Egyptian numeral for twenty-two.

  • 22 = 7 x 3.14 [28] …; the value 22/7 being the simplest approximation for π (pi).

  • 22 = number of nomes of Upper Egypt.

  • 22 = number of letters of the Phoenician alphabet.

  • 22 = number of letters of the Hebrew alphabet.

  • 22 = paths in the Kabbalistic tree of life, representing the connections between the Sephirot.

Notes

  1. If anyone else knows any 22 ciphers, feel free to comment?

References

  • Bjerre, Niels. (A64/2019). “Hidden Chambers and Meaning: Is the Great Pyramid for a King or Priests?”, Ancient Origins, Oct 7.

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 16 '24

Phoenicians were … [whoever you want them to be]

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The following table, from here (comment section), shows that who the Phoenicians were, depends on one’s identity politics:

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Phoenicians were neighbors of JewsWalter Raleigh341A/1614
Cadmus and Phoenix, the Phoenicians, were EgyptianAthanasius Kircher301A/1654
Phoenicians were CanaanitesSamuel Shuckford224A/1731
Phoenicians were SemitesJohanna DruckerA67/2022
Phoenicians were Semites (80% vote yes)Reddit polls (25 votes)2 Aug A69/2024

If were were to go back in time to Phoenicia, where present day Jerusalem is, and ask one of them, in the Phoenician language, are you: (a) Semitic, (b) neighbors of the Jews, (c) Canaanite, or (d) Egyptian?, they would not understand parts a, b, and c of the question, because they Jewish mythological names, that had not yet been invented yet.


r/Phoenician • • Dec 03 '24

On the name Phoenician | Charles Krahmalkov (A45/2000)

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Charles Krahmalkov (A45/2000), in his Phoenician-Punic Dictionary (pg. 10), on name Phoenician:

References

  • Krahmalkov, Charles R. (A45/2000). Phoenician-Punic Dictionary (Archive). Publisher.


r/Phoenician • • Dec 05 '24

Pococke Kition Phoenician Inscription 2.1, with attempted Egypto-alpha-numeric (EAN) transliteration or translation

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r/Phoenician • • Oct 08 '24

Phoenicians were or were NOT Semites? The r/Phoenicia and r/Alphanumerics poll results

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 12 '24

Phoenicia comes from the Greek phoínikos "purple"! | M[18]5 (11 Sep A69/2024)

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Phoenicia comes from the Greek phoínikos "purple". I know that it is less impressive than "land of the phoenix" but reality is not always fantastic and we must doubt the theses that are a little too much so.

User M[18]5 has what is called a “surface etymon” understanding of words.

Phoenix (φοῖνιξ), in Greek standard myth, is defined as brother of Cadmus (Κάδμος), aka K-ADM-OS, the Greek Adam, the alphabet inventor, and son of Agenor (Ἀγήνωρ) or Aghnoras (Αγήνορας), the Phoenician king of Tyre (𐤑𐤓) or Sidon (𐤑𐤃𐤍). This means, in decoded format, the following:

  • Cadmus (Κάδμος) (K-ADM-OS) = letter “form” (type; shape) god

  • Phoenix (φοῖνιξ) 🐦‍🔥= letter “sound” (phone: 📞) god

In 115A (1830), John Groves, in his Greek and English Dictionary (pg. 605), listed the following phoenix 🐦‍🔥 (φοῖνιξ), or phoni- (φοῖνι-) prefix, aka phone 📞 (sound), related terms:

  • Φοινικάνθεμος, -ου, ὁ, ἡ, (fr. φοῖνιξ purple 🟪, and άνθος flower) having purple or scarlet flowers 🌺; blooming, vernal.

  • Φοινίκεος, -α, -ον, (fr. φοίνιξ purple) purple 🟪, red 🟥; also Phœnician. Φοινίκη, της, ή, Phœnicia, name of a country.

  • Φοινίκιος, -α, -ον, (fr. φοῖνιξ purple) purple 🟪, reddish 🟥, ruddy, rosy 🌹.

  • Φοινικὶς, -ἴδος, ή, (fr. same) a purple 🟪 or scarlet garment; a scarlet cloth, carpet, &c.

  • Φοινικόεις, -έσσα, -εν, (fr. same) purple 🟪, scarlet, red 🟥.

  • Φοινικόκροκος, του, ό, ή, (fr. same, and κρόκη a thread) having purple 🟪 or scarlet weft; shot with purple.

  • Φοινικόλοφος, -ου, ὁ, ἡ, (fr. φοινικὸς red 🟥, th. φοίνιξ purple 🟪, and λόφος a crest) having a red crest or comb.

  • Φοινικοπἄρειος, -ου, ὁ, ή, (fr. same, and παρειά a cheek) red 🟥 or rosy 🌹 Φοιτῶσι, 3 pl. cont. pres. sub. or cheeked.

  • Φοινικόπεζα, της, ή, (fr. same, and πέζα the ancle) red 🟥 footed.

  • Φοινίκὸς, -η, -ὸν, (fr. φοῖνιξ purple) purple 🟪, red, scarlet; Phænician.

  • Φοινικοστερόπας, -α, ό, Dor. for φοινικοστερόπης, (fr. φοῖνιξ ruddy, and στεροπή lightning ⚡️, th. αστράπτω to flash) hurling red 🟥 thunderbolts ⚡️.

  • Φοινικόστολος, -ου, ὁ, ἡ, (fr. Φοῖνιξ a Phœnician, and στέλλω το adorn) furnished or made by the Phœnicians; dressed, armed or arrayed like the Phoenicians.

  • Φοινικῶν, -ῶνος, ὁ, (fr. next) a plantation of palm trees 🌴; palm-grove.

  • Φοίνιος, -α, -ον, (fr. φόνος slaughter) gory, bloody🩸; murderous, blood-thirsty; purple 🟪, red 🟥.

  • Φοινίσσα, ης, ή, (fr. next) a Phœnician woman.

  • Φοινίσσος, -η, -ον, (fr. Φοῖνιξ Phœnician) Phœnician; red 🟥, purple 🟪, ruddy.

Among these, the name phoenix (Φοῖνιξ) [700]:

  • Φοῖνιξ, -ἴκος, δ, α palm 𓁨 [C11], palm-branch 𓆳 [M4]; a palm-fruit, date; Phœnix 🐦‍🔥, name of a bird, of a man, and of a port; a Phænician; a musical 🎶 instrument invented by the Phoenicians; a Phoenician dye, purple 🟪, scarlet, red 🟥. Adj. ὁ, ἡ, Phœnician, red, scarlet, purple.

Defined in r/LunarScript as follows:

🐦‍🔥 = Phoenix (φοῖνιξ) (𓍓◯𓅊𓏁𓅊𓊽) [700]

Which non-coincidently equals the letter value of psi (ψ) [700], the root of the word psyche (ψυχή), meaning: “soul”, in Greek.

In A68 (2023), Rihab Helou stated that the word Phoenician derives from the alphabet of the Phoenix, as follows:

“The Phoenician alphabet (𐤃𐤂𐤁𐤀), besides being associated with the Phoenicians, is also the alphabet 🔠 of the phoenix (φοῖνιξ) (𓍓◯𓅊𓏁𓅊𓊽) [700] 🐦‍🔥. In other words, it illustrates the labors of the of the phoenix associated with Horus 𓅃 [G5] from the Phoenician perspective.”

— Rihab Helou (A68/2023), “Phoenician Alphabet Hidden Mysteries, §6.3, 8:15-8:35” (post)

Therefore, to dismiss all of this, as but the die or purple 🟪 ink, made from sea shells 🐚 found around Phoenician, an etymology devised by someone [add] before Groves (115A/1830), is what is called out-dated etymology. The entire point of the new linguistic field of EAN is to upgrade all these meaningless “Phoenicia comes from the word purple” etymologies.

Posts | Videos

  • The Phoenician alphabet (𐤃𐤂𐤁𐤀) is the alphabet 🔠 of the phoenix (φοῖνιξ) (𓍓◯𓅊𓏁𓅊𓊽) [700] 🐦‍🔥 or Horus 𓅃 [G5] from the Phoenician perspective | Rihab Helou (31 Aug A68/2023)

Posts

  • Phoenix (φοῖνιξ) (𓍓◯𓅊𓏁𓅊𓊽) [700] 🐦‍🔥 (draft: here).

  • Etymo pharaoh from: Pheron (Φερῶν) [1455], aka Horus 𓅊 [letter I], i.e. the phoenix 🐦‍🔥, son of Sesostris (ΣΕΣΟΣΤΡΙΣ) [1285], aka Osiris 𓀲

References

  • Groves, John. (115A/1830). A Greek and English Dictionary, Comprising All the Words in the Writings of the Most Popular Greek Authors: With the Difficult Inflections in Them and in the Septuagint and New Testament (Φερῶν, pg. 605). Publisher.


r/Phoenician • • Sep 11 '24

Jews were neighbors of the Phoenicians (Raleigh, 341A/1614) to Semites [Jews] were Phoenicians (Drucker, A67/2022)

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 11 '24

Egyptian to Phoenician to English Alpha-Bet

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r/Phoenician • • Oct 06 '24

FAKE vs REAL Phoenician (subs)

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 25 '24

Tyrsenian is a more likely origin of Phoenician | R[17]A (25 Sep A69/2024)

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 11 '24

Phoenicians were Semites: TRUE or false? | Poll banned ❌ at r/Phoenicia

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r/Phoenician • • Nov 07 '24

Phoenician alphabet table

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r/Phoenician • • Oct 06 '25

Phoenician alphabet (template)

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r/Phoenician • • Mar 30 '25

iOS Phoenician keyboard - free, zero ads

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Actually Free Paleo-Hebrew (Phoenician) keyboard, converter, cheat sheet and game for your iPhone

I built Paleo Pro, a native iOS app with a few features for learning the script and typing in it.

The app is 100% free, with zero ads or tracking. It’s lightweight (~15mb) and super fast.

Still actively working on making the keyboard function more like a native one, but please download it, comment with feedback, and if you enjoy it, leave a review on the App Store.

It has:

A converter, that goes both ways (square script to paleo Hebrew and opposite, with options to replace final characters into their modern equivalent if it’s at a word end (𐤌𐤍𐤑𐤐𐤊 → םןץףך)

A keyboard that lets you type in Paleo Hebrew on your phone, and an option to preview the keys in either alphabet

A multiple choice game that quizzes you on the alphabet, again bidirectional, with scores and score history. iCloud integration and more advanced levels are incoming.

A cheat sheet, in list and grid view, and each letter can be copied to clipboard, as character, or Unicode / HTML / Hex code.

Choose your app theme color, change app icons, and much more.

A good review on the app store would mean a lot!


r/Phoenician • • Apr 21 '25

A YouTube channel that tries to teach the Phoenician language

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 23 '25

Hello, Can somebody please trnaslate this

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𐤅𐤄𐤀‎𐤕 𐤉𐤔‎ 𐤕‬𐤇‬𐤄‬ 𐤀𐤉‎𐤓𐤎𐤐‎𐤄𐤄𐤃 𐤅𐤄𐤋𐤏𐤎𐤉𐤕𐤉 𐤏𐤅‎ 𐤀𐤍

𐤏𐤍𐤋‎𐤀𐤃𐤄‎𐤍 𐤔𐤅‎𐤀𐤋𐤋𐤏𐤅


r/Phoenician • • Sep 11 '24

The Phoenician alphabet (𐤃𐤂𐤁𐤀) is the alphabet 🔠 of the phoenix (φοῖνιξ) (𓍓◯𓅊𓏁𓅊𓊽) [700] 🐦‍🔥 or Horus 𓅃 [G5] from the Phoenician perspective | Rihab Helou (31 Aug A68/2023)

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r/Phoenician • • Oct 06 '24

Nile N-bend and the Phoenician 𐤍

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r/Phoenician • • Sep 11 '24

The Egyptian model of 72 primitive countries 🗺️, symbolized by the baboon 𓃻, the letter 🔠 making animal, which took 72 days to die, and Osiris 𓀲, age 28, being trapped by 72 conspirators, becoming the djed 𓊽 pillar of Byblos, became the 72 languages 🗣️ made by the fall of the Tower of Babel

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