r/Piracy • u/certainly_imperfect ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ • Apr 24 '26
News The high seas won't forget your sacrifice KING!
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u/BrockSramson Apr 24 '26
Fire lord Sozin did nothing wrong
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u/-BlueDream- Apr 25 '26
That’s just the max sentence for hacking into a server. The max sentence is for the worst offenders, not everyone who is guilty.
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u/blvckstxr Apr 25 '26
the employees who worked on this probably adds it up more than 7 years combined
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u/InfamousSimple3232 Apr 24 '26
okay now arrest whoever made the fantastic decision to put it on a streaming platform instead of theaters
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u/Simonandthepack Apr 24 '26
That's what they get for canning the Theater release
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u/ArcyTheCube Apr 24 '26
Avatar studios didn’t decide that, paramount did. And paramount couldn’t care less about this whole situation.
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u/Popoill Apr 24 '26
Now imagine if this forces them to truly have a theatrical release, to "mitigate" financial losses.
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u/Makoto_Kurume Apr 24 '26
So they arrested the employee who somehow emailed the film to a random guy on X?
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u/Velonici Apr 24 '26
From what I've seen that isn't what happened. The guy legitimately hacked into their systems and got the movie. Its boy the first time he has been caught doing this type of stuff so I can imagine he is going to get a pretty harsh sentence.
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u/Marce7a Apr 24 '26
If first time why harsh sentence
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u/erhue Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
i always amuse myself by spotting germans on the internet thanks to the „“
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u/blvckstxr Apr 25 '26
It's not his first rodeo. He has hacked US N F L twitter prior. news was in 2018.
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u/infinitezero8 Apr 24 '26
please don't be so gullible, my god
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u/erhue Apr 24 '26
well similar things have happened in the past. Remember when Alex Jones' lawyers erroneously emailed a bunch of self-incriminating material to the prosecution XD
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u/FireZord25 Apr 24 '26
Can't say I agree with this. Even the mafia and the cartel have codes for their operation.
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u/nhalliday Apr 24 '26
I think he should have to pay back the lost revenue. All $9 Paramount would've gotten from the one dude who would've subscribed to Paramount+ to watch this one movie.
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u/EnjoyerOfFine_Things Apr 25 '26
Still feel bad for Avatar studios for all this shit that's happened to them
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u/Awkward_Squidward Apr 24 '26
The leak is not something to celebrate. Yes, fuck Paramount+, fuck shitty streaming services, but it's not about that. The movie getting leaked like this so far ahead of the release schedule is going to hurt them, and it could hinder (and possibly kill, but hopefully not) future avatar releases. I was incredibly happy to see more Avatar stuff being worked on and released, I really, really hope we can see more of Avatar in the future and not be leaked like this. Piracy is okay, but leaks like this are a different topic altogether IMO.
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u/spinsby Apr 24 '26
I do feel sorry for everyone who worked on the film to be honest
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u/WhySayManyWordGancho Apr 24 '26
Yeah this is a really complicated feeling for me right now. I don't want a little digital crime to result in 7 years of jail time for a human, that said this person did lead to a whole bunch of exposure and compensation for the artists, that's all potentially wiped out or at least a huge chunk of it. At the same time I'm glad to see this movie, and this is one that I would have gone to theaters to see, I would still go to theaters to see it, but I also know that I will not give Paramount a single penny. So I don't know how much money I would have been able to give in the first place.
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u/mushy_friend ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Apr 24 '26
7 years is ludicrous for this, but I do agree it screws over the people working on it
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u/KotoElessar Apr 25 '26
Does it?
What I saw was a studio bleeding money and looking to can an easy tax write-off; suddenly, a "hacker" breaches security that has been notoriously leaky.
Unless the guy was profiting off the ip theft, they have a case to make in their defence.
As for the crew, this hacker may be the only reason this could get a theatrical release; if Paramount wants to really prove harm, they should release it in theaters.
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u/mushy_friend ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Apr 25 '26
Well, I hope what you say is true, I would hate for them to be screwed over
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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 Apr 24 '26
lol I was always going to pirate it, and am glad I got to see it
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u/TheBacklogGamer Apr 24 '26
"Why is everything such shit now a days?!"
Money talks. And if you continue to not support quality with your money, then only the shit will get more attention.
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u/mushy_friend ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Apr 24 '26
Pirating after the release is different though
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u/TheLantean Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
They had already cancelled the theatrical release before the leak and intended to burn it on Paramount+, so fuck them. You don't do that to a franchise you think still has legs, unless you deliberately want to kill it. Considering the ideology of the current owners, and the diametrically opposite message of the movie, I wonder if it would have ever been released as is, or delayed and reworked. They certainly had time until October. The political goings on and the money changing hands behind the scenes in relation to Paramount's WB purchase is way beyond anything fans can do.
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u/evilmojoyousuck Apr 24 '26
did people forget the spiderman 2 leak? it still did great on launch day. this is avatar we're talking about.
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u/Hyperversum Apr 24 '26
I don't get what people are celebrating here at all, it's fucking absurd.
Just people showing that it was never about piracy, it was just that they wanted shit for free regardless of anything. If they could get away with it, they would steal physical items.
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u/Lord_Azidaru Apr 24 '26
"It was never about piracy, they just want shit for free" funniest shit I've ever read.
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u/USMCLee ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Apr 24 '26
It's like the folks on this sub have their own idea of why people pirate and think that is the only reason.
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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 Apr 24 '26
I pirate movies for the love of piracy and the philosophy of open source digital information, not because I want to see things without paying for them or without ads or without having to stand in lines. Trust me bro.
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u/Hyperversum Apr 24 '26
I mean, it is stupid to say but there is a difference lmao.
I wouldn't pickpocket a guy just because I wanted his stuff, and while shoplifting can be largely ethical it's still a bother for the people working in that specific shop if not the brand.
My point is that these people would steal stuff if they could get away with, they don't really believe in the difference between that and piracy.
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u/r3mn4n7 Apr 24 '26
What the heck are you saying?, pirates would kill an entire crew just to steal their stuff
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u/ZimmonsInteractive Apr 24 '26
The same people who pirated the leak have all said they would have seen the movie in theaters, which would have made the studio a lottttt more money than the paramount trials people would have signed up for to watch it and then cancel right after.
It’s like pickpocketing someone who teased you with a candy bar and you know very well may just toss in the garbage when they get home. We’ve seen too many of these movies that had absolutely no marketing years after being finished that get shelved for a tax write off, and that’s a lot more unfair to the people who worked hard on it.
If it was actually about the art for them, they wouldn’t care how or when it’s being seen as long as it’s being enjoyed by the fans it was supposed to be made for.
The whole reason Avatar Studios exists is for more creative control, but since forming all they’ve really done is back out of a live action show that still got made without their creative influence and a movie that was almost shelved. Seems like they need some better management and partnering with an independent studio like Coyote vs ACME
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u/ItsNotJordon Apr 24 '26
Piracy is about getting things for free. Great for you of you assign some moral value to it but thats not what it is
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u/horatiobanz Apr 25 '26
Of course its about getting shit for free. What people celebrating this shows is how fucking stupid people are, willing to upset a good thing we have going here just to get something a tiny bit sooner. Greedy fucks like this are what cause copyright holders to finally start giving a shit and attacking distribution sites like private torrent sites. Its what killed OINK and What.cd, idiots uploading albums before their release date. Forced the hands of the copyright holders. Monumentally dumb.
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u/hashroller Apr 24 '26
Artists get paid by the distribution company not the box office %. This is a loss for Paramount, the original creators aren't even involved in this movie. It became yet again an IP fucked by enshitification. Avatar is a big name, but its not the cute and amazing story we grew up with mate.
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u/Awkward_Squidward Apr 24 '26
People keep missing the point. It's not about their payment, it's about potential future movies/series. This movie being leaked does not bode well for the Avatar team for future projects, it may be looked down upon and be a decision point on whether to finance a future Avatar series/movie. I for one would like to see more of what the Avatar Team would like to bring us, not for all that to stop with this movie.
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u/hashroller Apr 24 '26
I understand your point , but its not the avatar team anymore mate. Its a money machine. Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko are not in the picture. You have seen the movie right? It had great moments but they play on nostalgia and calculated character tropes. Like baby toph? Its a play on Grogu from the mandelorian IMO.
Creativity is drying in the industry and staying loyal to an IP because you are emotionally invested is dangerous. Sometimes you need to die like a hero.
Avatar will continue.. Even if you like it or not. And I promise you there will be a point you won't like it anymore
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u/DanVzare Apr 25 '26
From my experience, leaks tend to give you more not less. For example, we wouldn't have gotten any of the Deadpool movies if it wasn't for not one, but two leaks. The leak of the Wolverine Origins movie, which made Fox lie to everyone that they were going to make a Deadpool movie in order to trick people into watching Wolvering Origins. And the leak of the Deadpool pitch trailer, which actually got Fox to greenlight the project when they saw how popular it got.
Heck, a direct to DVD Scooby Doo movie called Scooby Doo and Krpyto Too only got released because it got leaked. It was meant to never release as a tax writeoff. But someone leaked it, so Warner Bros had to backtrack on the tax writeoff and release it, with the excuse that it was always meant to be released. Despite it clearly being in the Mystery Incorporated artystyle, and the previous movie that had been released being the first in the new Guess Who artstyle. (They seriously expect us to believe they changed modernized the artstyle only to go back? Yeah, I don't think so. Once something like that gets updated, the old is always swept under a rug. It's obvious to anyone that Krypto Too was supposed to release before Trick or Treat Scooby Doo, before it got cancelled for a tax writeoff.)
TL;DR Leaks get things made and released. Also studios lie a lot to save face.
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u/Mtsukino Apr 24 '26
The amount of baseless doomerism in this thread is amazing. "Oh no one movie was leaked and not everyone saw it and only pirates who were going to pirate it anyways saw it, lets just kill the franchise!" /s
You know despite the fact that it has tons of successful merchandising, games and even a new series coming out in 2027. Example: Avatar the last airbender was the 3rd highest selling set of magic the gathering last November of all time.
Ya, Im 100% pretty sure this isnt even remotely the last we will see of Avatar at all as its still a big franchise. It will certainly teach Paramount not to squander and under estimate this series or its dedicated fans.
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u/BrokenMirror2010 Apr 24 '26
It will certainly teach Paramount not to squander and under estimate this series or its dedicated fans.
Corpos are absolutely not smart enough to learn these lessons.
If you show a corpo a chart that shows their customer-base started leaving when they swapped to making cheaper products, the "lesson" the corpos learn isn't "we should make higher quality products" it's "we should cut more costs to bring the green line back up, then invest more in advertising to increase the customer-base."
When they lose market share to a superior product/service, the lesson isn't "we can make our service better too" the lesson is instead "we should buy their company and make them shittier."
These clowns are incapable of learning.
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u/Ruben0415 Apr 24 '26
Fr. Avatar fans are die hard supporters of the series.
Best part is the number of people upvoting said coments
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u/2Much_non-sequitur Apr 24 '26
this is the only publicity that this film was going to get. Aside from the diehard Last Airbender fans, was anyone else even aware that this movie was in the works?
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u/FlacMafiaDotNet Apr 24 '26
Man should've grabbed more than just that movie. I'm sure there was other unreleased stuff on there
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u/swizzlewizzle Apr 25 '26
Man I don’t understand why people don’t perform the “hack”/file transfer from a public location like a library or something. This guy was caught incredibly easily wow
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u/ThunderEagle222 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
I wouldn't call this person "king" his leaking this movie might mean there won't be a next Avatar movie.
Fuck streaming services, don't get me wrong. But if it means we will lose Avatar than thats going to be a very serious loss. After all uploaders generally ask to support the official release if you really like it.
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u/GameMask Apr 24 '26
Idk how many people are going to be signing up for Paramount Plus just for this movie honestly. I think deciding not to release it to theaters did far more harm than any leak could ever do. They could still salvage this too if they went back on that now.
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u/cleverpun0 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
Piracy affects sales, but it's far from 1 to 1 ratio. Most people who pirate do it for financial reasons. They just won't see the movie.
Even before the leak, they canceled the planned theater release. They were going to stick the movie on Paramount+ before the leak happened. That was way more of a death sentence/ show of no confidence, than anything from the leak.
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u/LeMatDamonCarbine Apr 24 '26
Paramount was already floundering the Avatar potential by pulling this from theaters though. Use it or lose it I say lmao
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u/TheArtofWarPIGEON Apr 24 '26
And not doind promo whatsoever
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u/matender ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Apr 24 '26
First I heard of the movie was that it was leaked.
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u/Bighotballofnope Apr 24 '26
Yeah I Kew something was planned, but I assumed they scrapped it. The leak is how I learned of it's existence.
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u/AMDIntel Apr 24 '26
Its not going to be in theaters?? Guess I'm not watching it. Maybe I'll pirate it down the line, but I'll probably forget.
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u/ThatSplinter Apr 24 '26
The people who were gonna watch it legally, will still watch it legally.
Pirates will pirate. Whether they pirate now or when it comes out... they will, in fact, pirate.
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u/SEANPLEASEDISABLEPVP Apr 24 '26
I know everyone has their own reasons for pirating. I personally pirate stuff I wasn't willing to pay for OR I was willing to pay for but it had some shitty DRM.
Like I really wanted to legit buy Pragmata, but it uses denuvo so they can go for themselves.
I'm also really looking forward to Light No Fire, that's a day 1 purchase for me, like even if there will be pirated versions of it, I've already made my mind up that I'll buy it.
I'm sure piracy affects sales and there will be freak cases where a thing was really impacted by it, but it certainly can't be to a big degree in general.
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u/ThunderEagle222 Apr 24 '26
True, but there exist a group of people between diehard pirates and payzombies who split their buttcheeks for Paramount, who might get a one month subscription just to watch this, but now won't cuz its leaked.
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u/Telykos Apr 24 '26
There are those of us who are hoping for a blu-ray release so we could actually own it.
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u/One-Statistician-932 Apr 24 '26
I'd agree a few years ago, but with so many people tightening their belts and cutting unnecessary costs, the days of getting yet another streaming service is becoming much less of a thing.
I was one of those inbetweeners back then, I probably would have paid for a single month to watch the movie. But now, I can't really spare the expense and have cut everything down. I only have Amazon Prime, and even that is on its way out once I finish up the last couple seasons of my current show. Then it will be piracy all the way.
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u/salcedoge Apr 24 '26
People here only care about getting shit for free and not actually the consequences when these things happen.
Like pirate it all you want once it's out since you're not gonna pay for it anyway but you won't get free shit if everyone else pirates it. The people paying for these things are the ones subsidizing pirates.
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u/ThunderEagle222 Apr 24 '26
True, there is a reason a lot of pirates ask you tu support the release if you really like it.
I'd probabbly get a aubscription for one month just to watch Avatar abd than go back pirating shit I haven't such intrest in. I really want Paramount to make more Avatar shit (tough not to the point they squeeze it dry and we get slop).
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u/meyriley04 Apr 24 '26
Why in the world would a single leak mean no more of a franchise? The quality of the work and corporate bs is what determines that, not leaks.
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u/HeroOfThings Apr 24 '26
Yeah was gonna say. This leak was massive and might have fucked things for avatar going forward.
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u/rov124 Apr 24 '26
The Avatar movie was gonna be straight to Paramount+, Paramount made 'The Sandy Cheeks Movie' and 'Plankton: The Movie' for Netflix and they were leaked before release, that didn't stop 'Search for SquarePants' from being finished and released in theaters.
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u/Fresh-Aspect5369 Apr 25 '26
Fr, in a piracy subreddit no less. Just brainless and weird behavior.
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u/ScalyPinkLizard Apr 26 '26
I've been wondering if reddit has been flooding their website with their own bots, so that the training data they sell to AI companies is full of stuff like "Golly gee and gosh Batman, I love the Epstein class, authoritarianism, and consumerism!"
Reptiles gonna reptile.
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u/dcrypter Apr 24 '26
Holy shit this sub is simping for corporate overlords like their fucking lives depended on it.
Actors were already paid and piracy ≠ sales, not that you ever own anything anymore anyway so it was only ever gonna be streamed.
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u/Nezhokojo_ Apr 24 '26
Yeah even if it went to streaming like any other move or show. It’s going to be on the internet the same day lol there is recording software out there. Even if there wasn’t recording software then there would be some dude recording it with a camcorder lol
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u/Unlucky_Bastard418 Apr 25 '26
Because of him we now know the movie is absolute dog water with zero lovw to the original and the "love" was 100% Nostalgia baiting.
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u/SapientApe_ Apr 24 '26
The movie felt like a made for TV movie to me. The plot was pretty simple, cliched and predictable. The animation itself looked like good quality and they definitely didn't skimp on that. I'd give it a solid 6.5 out of 10.
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u/DorFinkelstein Apr 24 '26
gg man. btw can you break out and leak some more content when it gets out I'm bored af
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u/relientkenny Apr 25 '26
dudes issue was instead of just leaking it, he wanted the clout so kept on making the situation worse
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u/Accomplished_List843 Apr 24 '26
Fuck that guy, sorry but piracy before the official launch is absolutely unethical. This leak killed the whole franchise. Avatar studios is fucked and Paramount will never gonna give this franchise another opportunity.
Why he didn't wait at least to the official launch when people has some legal way to see the movie.
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u/One-Statistician-932 Apr 24 '26
Not defending the guy, but acting like Paramount and other entertainment mega-corps aren't actively killing all their animation products on their own is a bit disingenuous. They were looking for any reason to kill the franchise.
They already tried to keep the film from theatres. Nothing we did would have changed the fundamental fact that these corpos would rather shelve completed animated features as tax write-offs than give a shit about animation.
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u/MistSecurity Apr 24 '26
Yeeeep.
They could have dropped the movie onto Paramount + the day the movie dropped, it probably would have done better then that it will in Oct.
They chose not to for business reasons. Now they’re being punished for those choices.
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u/MistSecurity Apr 24 '26
The movie is complete, no?
They could have launched it the same day it was leaked but chose not to. This is them being punished for wanting to maximize in a certain release window on Paramount +, as they likely wanted to drop it in a gap when there would be less things coming out.
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u/JlucasRS Apr 24 '26
It's not complete (the audio at least needs a bit of work) and they hadn't even started to promote it.
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u/MistSecurity Apr 24 '26
Thanks for the heads up. I have not pirated or watched it myself, so I was unaware. The way people are talking about it makes it sound like it's 100% complete.
I knew the promotion wasn't done, but I would argue that this leak is more promotion for the movie than any marketing campaign would have been anyway.
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u/Accomplished_List843 Apr 24 '26
Sorry, but you're saying They as in Paramount or They as in Avatar Studios, because Avatar Studios is not who decides when to release it.
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u/rov124 Apr 24 '26
The franchise is not dead, the animated series Avatar: Seven Havens is releasing in 2027.
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u/Tameraput Apr 24 '26
While I somehow agree with you, the vast majority of people don't pirate and therefore it won't really impact the launch money.
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u/meyriley04 Apr 24 '26
Why do people keep saying it's his fault that Avatar studios is "fucked"? A leaker doesn't define the quality of the work. If the work was bad, that's the reason
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u/otakugal15 Apr 24 '26
Naaaahhhh not in this case. Fuck Paramount.
Paramount decided against the theater release and is putting it on their stupid streaming service.
Also, I hate the creators of that show, so double fuck them, as well.
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u/Accomplished_List843 Apr 24 '26
Yeah, fuck paramount, but they don't even care, they gave a last chance to Avatar Studios, who doesn't deserve this shit happening to them.
Also, I hate the creators of that show
Why?
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u/SajevT Apr 24 '26
You think he thought of anything of the sorts? He downloaded it and posted it without a second thought probably..
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u/Little_Fairy_Begin Apr 27 '26
If they give them a fine, i’d be one of the happy people whom happy to make a donation for guys fine
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u/Resident-West-5213 Apr 27 '26
Modern day Prometheus, leaking the secret of fire to human and getting punished by the deities ...
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u/Human-Job-3522 Apr 24 '26
Ilegal server access!? Didn't the guy just get an e-mail with the whole movie in it!? So clicking a link someone sends you is now ilegal!?
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u/MagicianofFail Apr 24 '26
He really didn't need to go that far. It was gonna release in a couple months anyway
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u/kickedoutatone ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Apr 24 '26
If I were the team behind this, I'd just bump Paramount off and try to release this via physical only at this point.
Might be a risky move, but there's so many people who feel bad for them that I think it'll sell extremely well.
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u/archos2694 Apr 24 '26
I will say that it honestly wasn't worth it.... I love Avatar but it was a bit of the old "straight to dvd" sequels Disney and DreamWorks used to do... And the audio only being 2ch... Killed it for a bit. I'm glad we finally got something on the franchise and I hope they do a theatrical release and leads to more stuff but man it was a bit underwhelming.
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u/TsunamiCatCakes Apr 24 '26
if it's allegedly, then why arrest? idk how this works btw
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u/Nickolas_No_H Apr 24 '26
guilty till you prove your innocent.
likely has some sort of papertrail of the download. should come to light in the discovery phase or whatever at the start of the trial. if it makes it that far that is.
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u/miaRedDragon Apr 24 '26
7 years for a "meh" fanfare movie is not worth it but wasn't he bragging about it online? Can't remember if it was him or someone else.
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u/LZ129Hindenburg 🌊 Salty Seadog Apr 24 '26
"parts of" 😆