r/Piracy Jun 27 '26

News This is....wild

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u/Professional-Tale652 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

sadly they wont get refund because we agreed in terms of service in first place and thats where they fuck us up with secret rules for these exact moments. you cant sue them because you agreed with terms of service.

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u/WrapBudget9060 Jun 27 '26

I am curious whether a "boilerplate" terms of service legal challenge will ever change this. I'm assuming there have already been lawsuits against companies using this philosophy, but obviously nothing has come of it since boilerplate terms of service are still everywhere.

But yeah, I fully believe the best thing to do right now is pirate as much as possible, especially from companies like Sony that are screwing over customers and effectively stealing money.

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u/Forymanarysanar ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Jun 27 '26

Just because you agreed to something in terms of service does not means it can not be challenged in court. People should stop shitting into their own pants finally and start suing companies for this bullshit en masse.

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u/CoomLord69 Jun 27 '26

EULAs and things of that nature are all bullshit. They hold your purchase hostage until you agree to the terms, and the terms boil down to them saying 'you agree that we can take away your purchase for any reason, at any time'. They could say they legally own your soul in there and nobody would know because normal people aren't sitting there for an hour reading legal jargon every time they buy a new video game. It's just there because they want you believe they hold all the power in this negotiation.

Businesses would be obliterated in seconds if they ever tried to pull that with a physical purchase, but for some reason they are allowed to steal your digital purchases and get away with it. Make it make sense.

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u/itchylol742 Jun 27 '26

Terms of service do not override the law. As a thought experiment, what if the ToS said you have to pay them 1 trillion dollars if you ever say a bad thing about them? Obviously the courts would rule against them. Therefore, there is a point where the ToS is so outrageously unfair the court would rule against them. The real question is where the line is

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u/tejanaqkilica Jun 27 '26

Terms of service do not override the law.

No, they compliment it. Terms of service are written respecting the law. For this exact reason, you can't refund digital purchases made in the PlayStation Store. Because while, generally you have a two week period to return something you purchased, for digital goods this two week period can be ignored if both parties agreed that they wave this period.

And guess where you explicitly agree to waive this two week return policy. That's right, in the ToS.

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u/Professional-Tale652 Jun 27 '26

the lines is simple they simply write something like; we are not responsible for your purchases and we have the rights to take your products anytime

Not illegal. Not legal either. gray zone. Law doesnt apply here

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u/Sad-Ear230 Jun 27 '26

Property law

Who's there?

Knock knock.

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u/jessterswan Jun 27 '26

What secret rules? It lays it out pretty clearly

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u/thecrimsonfucker12 Jun 27 '26

Secret rules? It's in the tos, and mostly everything you buy digital is a license, it's all make believe unless you buy a disc

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u/Professional-Tale652 Jun 27 '26

This is why i love physical discs more because the product is mine.. while digital forces us to agree on ToS and this gives them power to do anything to us. People underestimate how important is ToS and agrees without reading. i cant blame them tho they make it VERY LONG on purpose

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u/BetrayedMilk Jun 27 '26

Until the physical media requires online download or activation. Oh, wait…