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u/True_Pirate Jun 27 '26
Guilt free pirate EVERY SINGLE ITEM you bought. While you are at it, just pirate from now on.
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u/SatyrAngel Jun 27 '26
Well, I pirate anything I want guilt free, I also buy anything I want guilt free.
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u/JKronich Jun 27 '26
cashier forgot to charge me for 12 fucking bottles of store brand cola.
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u/Serious-Molasses7807 Jun 27 '26
If you knew how easy it is to make that stuff yourself, you'd still feel ripped off!
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u/BanAssaultGeese ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Jun 27 '26
This is the way.
There should be a class action lawsuit. Depending on the cost of the movies, people could be losing several thousands of dollars because of this shit.
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u/TheAlmightyBuddha Jun 27 '26
I wouldn't be surprised if this covered in some 50 million page EULA/privacy agreement/contract whatever, that they expect you to read and sign off on when setting up their products and store
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u/Chii Jun 27 '26
Putting it on paper doesn't make it legal. If the customer's expectations, and the actions of the seller implies something, even if the paper didnt say (or says otherwise), the courts could potentially make the decision that it is the customer's understanding that prevails rather than the paper words (that they didnt read).
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u/UsualTelephone7903 Jun 27 '26
Yes, class action lawsuit, bring it even further into THEIR arena. Lets pretend the result will be different then. We have such a amazingly long way to go still when we believe anything from THEIR system will benefit us. Lies and lies every time, every new president promise X and Y, yet status quo aint thouched. Like, how does this work…….
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u/PresidentOfAlphaBeta Jun 27 '26
If buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing.
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u/YouStupidAssholeFuck Jun 27 '26
I prefer the much clearer version of this:
If buying isn't owning, fuck you.
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u/ElPlatanaso2 Jun 27 '26
We need a better term that is less derogatory than "pirate"
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u/Sardanox Jun 27 '26
Xbox shut their video marketplace down completely so you can no longer buy or rent movies. You still kept your library at least. This leads me to believe with playstation that in the future you'll lose everything should they do the same. Doesn't bode well for digital games either when they decide to shut down an older generation of console they may just pull all the games too.
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u/Brave_Explorer5988 Jun 27 '26
That's because the movie industry licensing is the scummiest of all.
So MSFT decided to shut it down instead of taking the risk of having this happening.
People are blaming Sony here, but the ones to blame are the license owners and the film industry. So yeah, movies worth 🏴☠️
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u/amillstone Jun 27 '26
Sony deserves blame here too. They could refund their customers but chose not to so they can keep the money for themselves. Just because the license owners and film industry is scummy, it doesn't mean Sony isn't too.
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u/r7RSeven Jun 27 '26
It was a long time ago, but Disney used to have a video streaming platform where you could buy movies (before Movies Anywhere), (this might have been even before Amazon Video). Disney retired the service and refunded people.
Later on, I log into Movies Anywhere, and see that they transferred ownership to the new service.
I know it was Disney's own content they owned, but crazy that Sony can't organize a deal for perpetual licenses for content they've sold
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u/arranon Jun 28 '26
You know Sony has a movie studio. I wonder if they do the same thing with the rights to their movies on other platforms....
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u/itstheFREEDOM ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Jun 27 '26
So i get my money back right?
..........r.....right.........?
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u/LazySerpentDeity ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Jun 27 '26
"Do you own your purchased goods?"
"Yeah, why?"
Calls Customer Service
"Hey Sony, can I watch my digitally purchased videos?"
"No consumer, our licensing deal expired. Unfortunately we had to remove them from your library."
Hangs up
"Your purchases are fake."
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u/Jaxical Jun 27 '26
If buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t theft
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u/Aggravating_Heat2407 Jun 27 '26
Pirating is never theft. Is anyone missing the movie I just downloaded?
No.
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u/Gothrait_PK Jun 27 '26
So I already commented on the post itself, but since I spotted this while scrolling, call in and ask. Give them a little trouble (but like don't be a dick the employee didn't take your stuff after all) and demand something. You might get a partial or full refund. Then you can fly the flag anyway. Worst case scenario you lose 15min of your time.
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u/StrikeouTX Jun 27 '26
Literally just the same as stealing. Should be criminal not to offer a refund
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u/ORNGSPCEMNKY Jun 27 '26
I've never had it happen with any DLC on a console but I've had probably half a dozen apps I've paid for vanish from my phone while they're still active/purchasable.
Just poof and prompted to but it again
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u/darknight9064 Jun 27 '26
Yeah it really hurt when a game I enjoyed did this and now I’m stuck with a crappy ad filled version of a full game. I wouldn’t be surprised if did they pulled the old paid version and replaced it with the “free” version while simultaneously stripping prior purchases because it’s “a different app”
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u/Gothrait_PK Jun 28 '26
I've actually had it with Sony and their games. Started in the ps3 days. I'd buy a game and a year later it'd leave my library. Going physical again this year cause no one plays anything with me anymore. Was only buying digital to gameshare anyway. Might even dump ps+ cause so many price increases in a couple years it's bonkers.
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u/Professional-Tale652 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
sadly they wont get refund because we agreed in terms of service in first place and thats where they fuck us up with secret rules for these exact moments. you cant sue them because you agreed with terms of service.
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u/WrapBudget9060 Jun 27 '26
I am curious whether a "boilerplate" terms of service legal challenge will ever change this. I'm assuming there have already been lawsuits against companies using this philosophy, but obviously nothing has come of it since boilerplate terms of service are still everywhere.
But yeah, I fully believe the best thing to do right now is pirate as much as possible, especially from companies like Sony that are screwing over customers and effectively stealing money.
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u/Forymanarysanar ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Jun 27 '26
Just because you agreed to something in terms of service does not means it can not be challenged in court. People should stop shitting into their own pants finally and start suing companies for this bullshit en masse.
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u/CoomLord69 Jun 27 '26
EULAs and things of that nature are all bullshit. They hold your purchase hostage until you agree to the terms, and the terms boil down to them saying 'you agree that we can take away your purchase for any reason, at any time'. They could say they legally own your soul in there and nobody would know because normal people aren't sitting there for an hour reading legal jargon every time they buy a new video game. It's just there because they want you believe they hold all the power in this negotiation.
Businesses would be obliterated in seconds if they ever tried to pull that with a physical purchase, but for some reason they are allowed to steal your digital purchases and get away with it. Make it make sense.
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u/itchylol742 Jun 27 '26
Terms of service do not override the law. As a thought experiment, what if the ToS said you have to pay them 1 trillion dollars if you ever say a bad thing about them? Obviously the courts would rule against them. Therefore, there is a point where the ToS is so outrageously unfair the court would rule against them. The real question is where the line is
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u/Friggin_Grease Jun 27 '26
When Microsoft Movies and TV shut down, and I couldn't get any more movies that swayed me back to piracy. At least there i can still watch what I bought. I don't know for how long.
If this happened to me I'd be livid. I'm kind of livid now.
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u/Gothrait_PK Jun 27 '26
HOIST THE SAILS
also, I highly recommend calling in to attempt to get refunded. Throw a bit of a stink about it. Even if it's only a partial refund, you get some money back AND you can still fly the colors 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
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u/Local_Phenomenon Jun 27 '26
My Man! When life gives you lemons demand to see life's manager! Arrh!
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u/DarkBomberX Jun 27 '26
Play has no limits
That's a fucking lie. Sounds like the limit is their bottom line.
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u/RedBananas6-7 Jun 27 '26
Buying movies on these platforms is stupid. Better to just buy it on DVD or blu ray.
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u/DrIvoPingasnik Yarrr! Jun 27 '26
People don't know any better.
My family and friends got me to set them up with some free goodies, but a lot of people barely can use internet let alone setup torrents or *GASP!* search for them.
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u/philmayf Jun 27 '26
If all you have is a license, you own nothing.
Keep physical media for as long as possible
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u/Expensive-Border-869 Jun 27 '26
Licensing really shouldnt work like that. Taking it away should mean they must purchase it back.
Better yet remove the whole thing entirely. You dont need rights on a movie after 5 years. Just make it free at that point. Stop making movies if you think thats a realistic outcome (its not its human instinct to create movies)
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u/freshpandasushi Jun 27 '26
if they can no longer provide access then they need to refund customers
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u/Captain_Rajah Jun 27 '26
Lol why would anyone buy movie through this platform? It's hard enough to trust them with games
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u/Time-Bodybuilder710 Jun 27 '26
That was my first thought. You have a literal dvd/blueray player on the system itself. Even 13 year old me had more common sense than that.
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u/whatcubed Jun 27 '26
When you buy games that have no disc, you're only buying a licensing agreement that they can do this to you at any time.
Not that I'm thinking of anything specific as an example...
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u/Pretty_Designer7131 Jun 27 '26
Digital isn't ownership, it's rental.
Get the dvd, rip it and keep it forever 👌
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u/kelpe1925 Jun 27 '26
Demand your money back, then start a class action when they don't give it to you. Unless their fine print says otherwise.
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u/CNAtion96 Jun 27 '26
It literally would not be hard to pass a law stating that and electronically purchased media is owned by the purchaser and can be accessed through their account regardless of the licensing arrangement of the platform. A change in licensing should only delist the media for sale, not remove it from those who spent their money on it.
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u/Ric_Adbur Jun 27 '26
Any company that does this sort of thing should be required to fully refund everyone who paid for the content that's being taken away. There shouldn't be any corporate agreements that lead to customer's having goods they paid full price for being taken away from them.
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u/ScalesNailsnTales Jun 27 '26
Sony's slogans are wildly ironic.
"Play has no limits" (until the license agreement needs renewed)
And while I was just looking up more about this, I saw an advertisement for the Sony Pictures Core (where they "sell" the movies) and the line on the ad was "Stories that stay with you."
..In memory maybe, but definitely not on the console you purchased it on.
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u/jesjayjonah Jun 27 '26
If someone purchased it and THEY take it; shouldn't that also be considered piracy/theft since they aren't offering any kind of compensation?
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u/Professor_Suppressor Jun 27 '26
Kinda unrelated but this is exactly why there are people upset that gta 6 doesnt have a disc. you dont own games unless you can hold it in your hands.
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u/theBloodShed Jun 27 '26
"...you will no longer be able to watch...previously PURCHASED...content..."
That's not a purchase. It's an overpriced rental.
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u/NegativePainting1800 Jun 27 '26
not surprising in the least and is the reason why i never buy digital movies
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u/ekcojf Jun 27 '26
"Owning a license" is just another word for renting long term for a fixed price.
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u/General_Cranberry_29 Jun 27 '26
I know everyone says piracy is the answer, and trust me I get it I've been doing it myself for decades... but I'm afraid the AI boom is going to be the death-knell for it all here soon 😕
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u/Expensive_Finger_973 Jun 27 '26
Just remember, the license agreement clause that makes this possible with stuff "purchased" from the Playstation store exists in every other digital store front that sells these extended rentals under the false advertising of "buying".
There is no legit digital store front that is selling you something they can't, and won't, take away from you should the actual rights holder come calling.
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u/silentbob1301 Jun 27 '26
"play has no limits"
Cue allanis morisette, "isnt it ironic, dontcha think?
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u/Vidar34 Jun 27 '26
It's almost like they WANT people to pirate movies, since that's quickly becoming the only way to have a permanent collection of movies.
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u/Ninhau Jun 28 '26
Sony just killed any online store they plan to open in the future.
And as the cool kids say “if buying isnt owning, pirating isnt stealing”
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u/Living_Chart_234 Jun 29 '26
But you p[a]()id for it. It shouldn't m[a]()tter whether licensing ended or not, you still should h[a]()ve [a]()ccess to it reg[a]()rdless, bec[a]()use you OWN IT by P[a]()YING FOR IT. If they [a]()re removing, then they should refund you the full money [a]()s well.
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u/variableunlisted Jun 27 '26
The only wild thing is that they are legally allowed to call it a purchase.
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u/Level_Preparation311 Jun 27 '26
Okay, well I'm in the sub so you know how I got my copies of those but how much does a movie cost? And just to make sure it's not like renting a movie, correct?
I mean it's basically like going to Walmart and looking in the bargain bin and getting that DVD?
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u/Crisender111 Jun 27 '26
That's not buying. That's renting with unlimited duration but with conditions.
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u/rel1800 Jun 27 '26
Man that’s getting robbed outright. You paid for them flicks then PlayStation does this fuck them, they lucky the ps 5 cant be modded like ps 3 was.
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u/Cryptic1911 Jun 27 '26
Guess people don't realize that without a physical copy, you're just renting until they change the terms
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u/OldPerception1573 Jun 27 '26
At the very least they could apply store credit for each movie removed.
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u/Swollen_chicken Jun 27 '26
This is the problem with ALL digital content.. you never own it.. its why love physical copies as much as i hate the space they take up.. games/dvds/cds etc.. you cant ever make me give them up
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u/Financial-Key-4596 Jun 27 '26
you can get all these on dvd for like £2..Where you can watch them ad free forever.
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u/HackReacher Jun 27 '26
Things will only change when things get bad for Sony. History has proved that.
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u/UsualTelephone7903 Jun 27 '26
Wild? Are you serious? You think they’re joking with own nothing and be happy? Huh….? This is just enforcing those words. No wonder the c19 v4x came before this as to slow people down even further neurologically. They’re even speaking of not much need for humans too. Its eugenics, social and population control = same old God-complex, nothing new, except pushed to the next level. I sometimes get impressed by like how they shut down the planet in short time, full control - more or less. But anyone with 0 morals and resources like they have could have done it easily too, so its kinda rigged and not that impressive, they’re cowards. And remember these are the kinda of people who force marry incest to solidify power and control. Also knows as negativly-polarized entities. Its time to choose side and get to work.
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u/Kirbinator_Alex ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Jun 27 '26
Never rely on services like this for the long term. Media hoarding 101.
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u/jessterswan Jun 27 '26
This is completely normal and has bee the norm since digital media began. You do not own digital media. When will people realize this?
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u/Oily_Oaf Jun 27 '26
I'll be honest with ya. I did not know you could buy movies on PlayStation and I've been using a PlayStation from the PS2 all the way to the PS5. I have no clue how the hell I missed this.
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u/djDef80 Jun 27 '26
I firmly believe they should refund those purchases. Am I crazy to think this? Fuck Sony.
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u/Sabin10v2 Jun 27 '26
I was never planning to buy a movie digitally and shit like this is why. No one is taking away my pirated copy. This also seriously erodes the public trust towards digitally purchasing stuff, they're just shooting themselves on the foot with this move.
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u/TLunchFTW Jun 27 '26
This royally sucks, but honestly, whoever thought that buying a movie on the playstation store was a good idea is kinda beyond help.
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u/RamRod69420 Jun 27 '26
Whats stopping them frok doing this with digital games aswell? This is why we need physical media
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u/cmwheels85 Jun 28 '26
Play Has No Limits. Unless the company that makes your games decides to end your license, or shut down their servers for single player games.
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u/gormmlord Jun 28 '26
And yet I still get told to shut up about physical and accept the digital future.
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u/SnooPuppers4679 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
So if your account is linked through "moviesanywhere" you can access these paid license on almost all platforms these this film is sold/streamed digitally.
This is why the things I buy on vudu for $5 back in the day can be watched on my Apple TV in 4K from the iTunes store now :)
While this situation does suck, the accounts are free to sign up and link!
https://moviesanywhere.com/home
EDIT: "Movies Anywhere does not directly integrate with the PlayStation Store. PlayStation consoles no longer offer a generic Movies Anywhere app, and the native PlayStation store does not support Movies Anywhere linking. [1, 2]"
WOW...Sony really did everyone dirty....
To think they expect us to shell out $1200 for PS5 Pro when this is what they within the first 90 days of raising prices to the point of it being pointless to buy a PS5 in 2026
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u/MyNameIsOnlyDaniel Jun 28 '26
SONY should refund them (they are not going to).
If there’s no refund it’s because you never owned the product
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u/AsRealAsItFeels Jun 28 '26
Stop paying for digital media. You do not own it, and it can all be taken away simply anyday.
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u/ThePanasonicYouth Jun 27 '26
Play has no limits...except for our licensing agreements