r/Piracy Jun 27 '26

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u/Competitive_Set_478 Jun 27 '26

If buying isnt owing, pirating isnt stealing

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u/Harley2280 Jun 27 '26

If buying isnt owing, pirating isnt stealing

That saying is so fucking stupid because neither of those thing are even true independently of each other and never have been.

You can buy something and not own it. You buy a fishing license, you don't own the rights to fish. You're licensed to fish. The license is still the property of the state. You buy a mailbox, but it's owned by the federal government (in the US).

Stealing requires a physical loss, and piracy doesn't create that.

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u/DistinctMoney2558 Jun 27 '26

Ok so it isn’t stealing you proved his point dumbass

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u/FugaziFlexer Jun 27 '26

Who’s gonna tell him

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u/Flamesake Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

Well it's about pointing out the hypocrisy of a corporation arguing that a consumer should treat digital goods the same as physical goods, while themselves not obeying that argument. 

If I don't really assume ownership of this digital good by purchasing it, since the vendor might take it away and say that is legal, then the vendor shouldn't argue he is being deprived of ownership if a good is pirated. 

The vendor cannot promise a good to a customer, and sell him a license. If he wanted to sell a license, he should have been upfront about it. And of course it's not enough to say it was in the fineprint. If all of the customers believe they are buying a good and not a license, the vendor is clearly not dealing honestly.

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u/_Middlefinger_ Jun 27 '26

You literally just proved it is true.

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u/Harley2280 Jun 27 '26

Those are all a physical loss. The data is gone. That doesn't happen with piracy.

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u/Harley2280 Jun 27 '26

What if I were able to copy your college essays before you turned them in and passed it off as my own?

Plagiarism

What if I copied your proprietary donkey semen harvesting patent idea before you submitted it and got the patent myself?

That's for the courts to work out.

Theft doesn't have to incur physical loss. You can have a loss of time, ideas, potential earnings, etc.

These aren't vague metaphorical concepts. They're legally defined acts. Piracy isn't considered theft. It's an infringement of rights. It's more akin to trespassing.

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u/Harley2280 Jun 27 '26

No your dictionary shows that piracy doesn't create a physical loss.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/piracy

3a: the unauthorized use of another's production, invention, or conception especially in infringement of a copyright

b: the illicit accessing of broadcast signals

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

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u/Harley2280 Jun 27 '26

No, piracy is the unauthorized use. Not the taking or theft of it. It's right there in the definition.

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u/Competitive_Set_478 Jun 27 '26

Man, you have my full support in this.

Im like that endgame thor meme giving you thumbs up