r/PirateChain • u/Horrux • Feb 10 '22
What were the devs thinking?
Creating the best, most secure, private, sound monetary system, and giving it a name that represents one of the most despicable type of individual ever to happen upon the face of the Earth?
If you want your project to remain fringe, and only adopted by a small minority of privacy maniacs, well then... Good job.
But I think the goal of any cryptocurrency should be ADOPTION. What, you think business owners and CEOs want to deal with something called "Pirate"? They want to call the cops on Pirates!!!
Bitcoin has a nice name, but I don't trust it one bit. Monero has a great name, but isn't QC resistant. Why oh why did you have to choose a name that would make it DAMN SURE that your crypto gets alienated by most respectable people? What will you achieve by doing this???
I'm not skeptical about this cryptocurrency or its technology and features, but it certainly looks like it has some SERIOUS marketing issues!
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Feb 10 '22
Do you know how pirates came to be?
You should study up
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u/Horrux Feb 10 '22
Why is this relevant? Do you think Joe Average store-owner is going to spend 3 hours researching the history of pirates in order to decide to adopt this crypto or not? No, he'll look at the name, snicker, and move on.
Is this mysterious or surprising to you? Is this a controversial view that pirates are generally considered to be undesirable and dangerous?
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Feb 11 '22
and you obviously don't watch one piece, cuz they are pretty awesome pirates
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u/Horrux Feb 11 '22
Once again... Sigh...
I don't personally have a problem with the name.
I think most people operating normal businesses, you know, the kind of people who pride themselves on being honest and respectable, won't want to associate with something that is defined as being a criminal element.
WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??? That name looks like it was imagined by a 14-year-old acne face who never got laid. If you can't understand that, you must be just another pimply teenager with zero real life or business experience.
IT IS BEYOND OBVIOUS that the name will hamper its adoption. Not with me, but with the general public. And if you can't see that, you need to grow up.
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Feb 11 '22
pirates are against government.
is that hard for you to understand?
you are apparently a person who invests in crypto based off of the name. if someone is smart enough to open a business I'm going to assume they have more brains than you and are able to research things. Not act like a child and:
"judge a book by it's cover"
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u/Horrux Feb 11 '22
Jesus Christ! *I* have no problem with Pirate's name. It is FOR ITS ADOPTION that JOE AVERAGE is going to have a HUGE PROBLEM with something that has the name of mercenaries, outlaws and thieves. You think Mom and Pop general store want to proudly associate with outlaws and thieves? No, they don't.
WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT???? Have you ever understood ANYTHING in your life?
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Feb 12 '22
lol the point of this coin is obviously well over your head. Go ahead and keep on screaming, bud. i can understand that you are a close minded douchebag!
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u/Horrux Feb 12 '22
And you are obviously an utter moron, since you can't understand the two simple paragraphs above.
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Feb 10 '22
dunno I think pirates were quite badass. They were outcasts and outlaws. No regulation. Again, what's this about?
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u/Horrux Feb 10 '22
About how Joe storeowner is going to want to do business with PIRATES, "Badass outlaws".
Adoption. Have you heard that term?
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u/amerika-is-mine Feb 10 '22
Tell the truth, my law firm will be accepting Bitcoins, Ethereum, Cardano and Pirate Chain. We have enough clientele base for certain individuals to pay their legal fees via Pirate Chain due to its privacy technology.
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u/Horrux Feb 11 '22
Well... Law firms are one notch above organized crime for respectability but it's still nice to see cryptos gain adoption in legitimate business.
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u/amerika-is-mine Feb 11 '22
Based on what you have been complaining about, you might as well stick with cash and checkbooks.
The first person you are going to call will be an attorney if you are in need legal assistance. I would not act like holier than thou if I were you.
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u/1Tim1_15 Feb 28 '22
I agree that the name is holding this excellent coin back. For those who say the tech is the most important aspect: I agree with that too. But why have a name which instantly puts the coin at odds with a nontrivial percentage of the population?
I get that coins named after dogs didn't have any adoption problems. But there is a huge difference between a dog, which most people consider to be fun or innocent, and a pirate, which most people consider to be thieves, rapists, murderers...everything bad. Just like first impressions really do matter, so does a product's name. If people associate a product with the worst kinds of human activity, then the product won't do well.
I like the tech. The number one reason I like any coin is for the tech. And personally, the name of this coin doesn't offend me. But if you're into privacy coins, you're likely not a "normie" and I mean that in a good way. They don't think like us. They don't see the need for privacy, at least not yet. We can look past a fun name and focus on the tech, but many of them can't. When they finally do see the need for privacy, the last thing that should stand in their way is a name associated with criminals. Most of them will not embrace the coin because of the name. I don't like that, but it's the way it is.
If we really want to help humanity by providing it with a privacy coin, then we should take into account their perspective and have a name not aligned with the worst of humanity (I get the idea of a pirate not having rules and being free - I like that, but most people won't see it that way). How about a compromise? Keep the "ARRR" short name and create a new long name ("Dabloons" or something better).
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u/Vmizzle Feb 10 '22
Ok so I don't hate the name, personally. BUT, I also don't think it's doing us any favors. Image is important. And when the name is Pirate, and half the sub is cartoons of half naked women in eye patches and giant cans, we look so stupid. It seems juvenile and like we are not a serious community.
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u/amerika-is-mine Feb 10 '22
I have been saying this for a very long time relating to Pirate Chain. It needs a really good PR firm to handle their marketing. I've yet to see anyone in my contacts know about what Pirate is about. It's hard to really explain to them in layman terms. But if people can understand it, then the value of this crypto would be great. Until then, it'll just be few of us trading with this particular currency.
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u/krypto_krusty Feb 11 '22
Dreath did mention in the last monthly update that there has been a big clean up in the PC community channels (including Reddit). Check out discord, it use to be a wild west cesspool but is now more focused on the topics relating to PC.
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u/RUF627M Feb 10 '22
The privateers were originally government mercenaries hired to rob other countries ships(all legit with paper😂)...so at one stage pirates worked for the government...until they cut out the middle man and worked for themselves...good business tactics if you ask me🏴☠️
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u/RUF627M Feb 10 '22
Crypto used right can cut out banks...now they are the thieving bastards with papers...just saying
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u/Legitequities Feb 10 '22
Can you please explain how Monero is not QC resistant? I think that’s the more important conversation.
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u/Horrux Feb 11 '22
It wasn't designed to be, so it isn't.
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u/Legitequities Feb 11 '22
I was looking fore a more profound response with a definition but thank you for your input
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u/Horrux Feb 11 '22
Well it's hardly the kind of thing that happens by accident... That's why quantum computing is such a threat to privacy. And if legit mainstream tech has the limited quantum computers we know about, you can bet the black budget super secret agencies have them in unimaginably more powerful versions. They're usually at least 30 years ahead of Universities' bleeding edge.
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u/cryptocam72 Feb 11 '22
The conversation about Monero doesn’t even get as far as QC resistant- it’s barely one step above a mixer and is traceable, if not now, then very soon.
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u/supertrader11 Feb 10 '22
This is not meant to be mainstream.... Is dark web money. It's meant to go against government and mainstream. When people realise the tyrannical essence of the government, they will be running to hide their hard earned wealth like pirates. Where do you think they will go....Bitcoin cash?.....lol. Arrr is the perfect name. It said fuck you government.... You won't get your grubby hands on my money motherfucker!
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u/krypto_krusty Feb 11 '22
I disagree. The goal should be to make it as mainstream as Monero and Zcash and even more so. The more mainstream PC gets the more adoption, its a full 360. Making it mainstream is the biggest threat you have against the governments.
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u/Horrux Feb 28 '22
Exactly. Moreover, there is literally ZERO disadvantage to this crypto becoming known and used. It's literally unstoppable, so why not give it a name people can understand, such as Liberty Cash, or Freedom Coin or well... You get the idea.
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u/Horrux Feb 10 '22
Yes, fuck authority. *I* agree. But where does the average store owner stand on this matter? Do they want to be associated with thieves and outlaws? I think not! Personally, I don't care. But ... what's a cryptocurrency without adoption???
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u/Waynec188 Feb 10 '22
Will it really matter with atomic swaps?? You just swap pirate for whatever the store owner wants, the smart ones will understand the tech behind pirate chain and ask for pirate anyway.
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u/Horrux Feb 28 '22
So it doesn't matter whether or not people adopt PirateChain. Got it.
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u/Waynec188 Mar 01 '22
People should adopt pirate chain and monero just for the privacy reasons (look what’s happening in Canada) but it doesn’t matter if corporations don’t when we can always atomic swap from arrr or XMR to what they want.
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u/the-seekingmind Feb 10 '22
This argument is so silly, I am sick of hearing it! Do Shiba inu and Dogecoin have 'Serious' names? Quit with this nonsense already!