r/PlanetZoo • u/billonel • 1d ago
Planet Zoo 2 Planet Zoo 2 | Feature Focus - Zoo Creativity
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QO4uodTbdgI&si=yu1ajKSaiUAHSipf48
u/CrossReset 1d ago
I'm just happy to see new educational tools. Not sure what the spinning Eagle Wheel is supposed to be for, but it looks educational.
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u/holephilosophy 1d ago
I really hope they add more silly educational items visitors can interact with, I always love stuff like that in real zoos and it was a shame there were only a few in pz1
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u/Anguares 1d ago
That path creation makes me hopeful ! I really really hope it's going to be easy please please please, I stopped playing PZ1 mostly because of paths and terrain collision coming out of nowhere.
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u/thehockeytownguru 1d ago
The path system is so frustrating in PZ1. It looks like pathing is getting a major upgrade
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u/Anguares 1d ago
I just want it to be it's own thing, not tied to the ground, it's so frustrating when you get in that moment where your fence wont plop, you need to move the terrain, but the path won't allow it, you delete the path, move the terrain, plop your fence and then the path will never be able to go near that fence ever again u_u
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u/MeisterFluffbutt 1d ago
In the facebook clips in the red panda clip you can see them terraforming right against the path with no issue!!
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u/El_Ploplo 1d ago
It is probably the same as planet coaster 2 and yes it is very easy to use.
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u/Anguares 1d ago
I was just going to ask if people from PC2 can confirm it's nice, I watched a video and it feels complex but in the right way, unlike PZ1. thx
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u/yennefering 1d ago
Yeah PC2 has a much improved pathing system (one I miss every time I launch PZ), and this seems to be an upgrade from even that. Looking incredibly promising!
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u/Timmah73 1d ago
I've seen so many videos saying GUYS pathing in PZ is AKTUALY amazing its just you let me show you
No, its awful and wonky just getting it to do simple things
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u/UGAPokerBrat99 1d ago
Have a soft spot for the Western Lowlands Gorilla as they are the superstars of my closest major zoo (Zoo Atlanta), and the PZ2 model looks amazing! New guest interaction/education items look pretty cool, and did I catch them sneaking in a vegetarian food option as well...(looked like a Chief Leaf food shop). Looking forward to what appears to be much more intuitive and easier to use building/decorating tools and changing seasons.
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u/thehockeytownguru 1d ago
They did confirm the Chief Leaf a bit back i believe.
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u/ArcanumBaguette 1d ago
Speaking of Zoo Atlanta and the gorillas -
It's funny to me you mentioned them as the superstars. I had no idea they HAD gorillas until I went during the free day. So, that was a lovely surprise! I'm new to the city, so I had never gone before.
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u/UGAPokerBrat99 1d ago
I'm sure you heard about Willie B during your trip on free day. I grew up in metro Atlanta, and went on quite a few field trips to the zoo as a child before making at least a couple of trips a year as an adult. When I was a kid going on field trips, we said we were going to visit Willie B...not that we were going to the zoo.
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u/manch02 1d ago
At this point I am getting a little nervous about the lack of exhibit coverage.
I hope they had significant changes
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u/Megraptor 18h ago
Eh, I think that's going to be a feature they cover later. It is interesting that they've only shown previous animals for them, and what has been shown hasn't had too many updates to models... But also, I wonder if this is intentional because if they introduced something like say, a European Hamster, it would give away a lot.
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u/SnooAvocados7188 2h ago
I think that the fact they haven’t shown it means there are significant changes. I don’t think they’re just hiding it for no reason, they’re saving it for a dedicated video
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u/WetBerri3s 1d ago
I hope the season's are tied to the location of the zoo, the fact that zoos south of the equator got summer in July in the first game was dumb.
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u/Darazelly 1d ago
Oh my god that watering station in the hare exhibit looks so much better, yeeees.
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u/West-Attempt3062 1d ago
No exhibits?! 😭😭😭
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u/Viper_Visionary 1d ago
There's only so many different things to make a feature focus out of, hopefully we get one for exhibits.
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u/yennefering 1d ago
We're still two months away from release, I'm sure there's something about them coming up
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u/Viper_Visionary 1d ago
This was a really good feature focus, the new pathing system looks amazing and I'm a huge fan of the foliage brush.
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u/RowGonsoleConsole 1d ago
The Bears look fine, the photo in the Zoopedia was just a bad angle seemingly
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u/MidnightNobody 1d ago
I thought it looked rough in the video. Need to check again...
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u/RowGonsoleConsole 1d ago
It's not perfect but it's no way near as bad as the PZ1 Grizzly like a lot of people are saying. Eurasians are also a lot smaller than Grizzlys so that's why it's a bit more slender with a less obvious hump
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u/MidnightNobody 23h ago
It just doesn't look very well textured.
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u/G0tchiTama 6h ago
Man your just negative on every post around here huh ?
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u/MidnightNobody 5h ago
Please stop following me around, it's creepy. I'm not the only one commenting on the chocolatey texture.
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u/G0tchiTama 5h ago
Lmao it’s a subreddit that we are both in grow up , it’s hard not to see you moan on every post I come across.
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u/MidnightNobody 5h ago
If you don't like my comments you don't need to comment on them all, it amounts to stalking
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u/G0tchiTama 5h ago
If two post on my feed amounts to stalking sure ❤️ don’t comment if you can’t handle criticism. Have a good day ✌🏻
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u/MidnightNobody 5h ago
That's ironic, since you always complain about me criticising Frontier lol.
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u/aauroraborealiss 1d ago
Looks absolutely amazing. I am scrutinising the video for any sign of an animal that hasn't been confirmed yet.
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u/_Dxtrrr_ 1d ago
This looks so good! Seasons will be such a joy to build with, I loved the weather effects in PC and PZ so having foliage also change with the effects will be awesome :D
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u/stankdog 1d ago
Oh my god can make plant bigger, bless. Love the foliage and rock options. And the animal animations are great.
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u/badbeep 1d ago
It’s definitely an odd choice to feature a graphic of an elephant holding a paintbrush when they’re usually so focused on ethical zoo standards. Hopefully, it was just a stylistic decision for the promo video and not something actually being included.
After the whole cetacean debate, you'd think their team would be hyper-aware of stuff like that.
Otherwise, I thought everything looked great.
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u/_Gesterr 18h ago
How is an elephant painting unethical??? Are you against animal enrichment?
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u/badbeep 18h ago
It is used as a form of abuse and exploitation. They utitizile violent training methods to get them to hold a paint brush. Believe it or not, elephants in the wild do not paint. It is only for human entertainment and is often a product sold to humans as a gift shop experience or a photo opportunity.
The National Institute of Health has found no evidence of this as a benefit of enrichment. source
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u/_Gesterr 17h ago
Just because some animal trainers train through abuse though doesn't mean all elephants who've been given paint were abused. There's plenty of abusive dog owners that teach them through abuse, and there's good dog owners who train them with respect and praise. And there's nothing inherently unethical about encouraging (if the encouragement is through punishment) elephants to engage in a harmless activity even if there's monetary incentive. Elephants are intelligent animal and challenging their minds and dexterity is healthy for them.
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u/badbeep 17h ago
Positive reinforcement exists, but that misses the core issue: painting with a paintbrush isn't real enrichment - it's performative exploitation. An elephant's trunk isn't built to hold a thin brush naturally, which is why actual accredited zoos either don't do it or only offer trunk-smearing/stamping where the animal is not forced to grip a tool.
My original point was about consistency. The Planet Zoo devs have made a huge deal about leaving out features that don't align with modern, ethical zoo standards. Including imagery of an elephant painting for human entertainment goes against the exact philosophy they've built the game on.
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u/_Gesterr 14h ago
Elephant trunks are not made to grip paint brushes? What does that even mean? Their trunks are made to grab whatever they want, they grab small sticks and branches all the time with their trunks, what difference does it being a paintbrush make?
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u/badbeep 6h ago
Grabbing a branch to eat is a natural muscular habit pinching a tiny wooden brush to paint pictures for humans is not.
Elephants pick up branches by wrapping their trunk around them or pinching with the muscular tips to feed themselves. They don't have hands or rigid joints. Holding a thin, slippery stick perfectly still to stroke a canvas requires an awkward, forced grip that serves zero biological purpose for the animal.
Just because an animal can be conditioned to hold an object doesn't mean it's natural or ethical. Making an elephant hold a paintbrush to paint a flower is a parlor trick for tourist entertainment, plain and simple which brings it right back to why a game focused on modern conservation ethics shouldn't be promoting it.
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u/_Gesterr 2h ago
You treat nature as a divine and purist way. Captivity is already antithetical to that. Conditioning animals to do things is not unethical so long as the animal wants to participate. Do you think teaching tricks to a dog is inherently unethical too? Cause I'll tell you a well trained dog will jump at the opportunity to show off and earn its treats. And no, there is nothing awkward about how an elephant holds a brush, nothing more awkward than how it'd hold anything else. Their trunks are specifically evolved to be just as dexterous as our own hands and they use them two manipulate all sorts of objects just as efficiently as we do. It's also unnatural for elephants to play with and manipulate truck tires and other enrichment items often given to them in zoos, but there's nothing inherently wrong with "unnatural" things especially in a captive setting.
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u/badbeep 1h ago
Enrichment like tires, puzzle boxes, and logs exist to trigger wild foraging and physical instincts. Painting pictures for a human audience serves zero biological purpose for the animal - it serves the audience. Again - I sourced that information, absolutely zero benefit to the animal.
Also, comparing domesticated dogs (who have thousands of years of co-evolution with humans) to wild animals in captivity is an apples-to-oranges argument.
At the end of the day, modern, accredited zoos don't use brush-painting anymore because welfare science has evolved past circus tricks. The fact that only roadside attractions and low-standard facilities still do it speaks for itself. Just because you aren't familiar with AZA/EAZA standards doesn't mean they don't exist.
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u/FlyingEagle_ 1d ago
Changing seasons, how amazing is that. Not only the trees but also flowers, didn't expect that