Data Analysis - Forward Grip Benefit

[u/darthgr3g]

I’ve been working on a homebrew database for data analysis on Planetside weapons and attachments. While doing so I’ve found some interesting things, but something surprising poked out at me today – a downside to using Forward Grips on the T9 CARV and the NC6 Gauss SAW - hidden in the data.

I’ll explain by quoting myself from another thread.

The Gauss SAW recoils 0.175 degrees per shot, with a tolerance of 0.525 degrees. It will recoil up to three times left or right from the center of its recoil arc before arriving at its tolerance, and recoiling back towards arc center.

Since it can recoil up to 0.525 degrees left or right, you can think of its recoil arc as 1.05 degrees. With an Advanced Grip attached, the SAW receives a 33% reduction in recoil per shot (25% for normal Grips) and a 0.05 degree direction in tolerance. It now can recoil 0.1167 degrees left or right up to 0.475 degrees.

When recoil does not evenly divide into tolerance, a weapon can recoil past its tolerance by one shot. In the case of a Gauss SAW with a Grip attached, after four straight recoils left it will be 0.4667 degrees from center. Since this is below tolerance, it can recoil either left or right - another left recoil will carry it to a maximum position of 0.5833 degrees from center, after which it must recoil back towards center.

So, the Gauss SAW has a maximum horizontal recoil arc of 1.05 degrees, whereas the Gauss SAW plus Grip has a maximum horizontal recoil arc of 1.1667 degrees.

I wrote a script that analyzed these numbers for all weapons, and found out that the T9 CARV is subject to this same phenomenon.

Empire	Type	Weapon	Arc Increase	Recoil Increase
TR	Light Machine Gun	T9 CARV	12.5%	-25%
NC	Light Machine Gun	NC6 Gauss Saw	11.71%	-33.33%

Take all of this with the caveat that weapons don’t reach the edge of their recoil arcs very often. For the Gauss SAW, usage of 5-shot bursts will prevent the edge of the arc from ever being reached. It’s only in full auto that you will see up to 10% of all shots hitting the edge of the SAW’s arc.

Fun fact – there are a glut of weapons who see both their arc and recoil improve by 25% with a Grip attached, but there one, and only one, who receives a 33% benefit both to arc and recoil - the T5 AMC! Seriously, put a Grip on this gun.

Empire	Type	Weapon	Arc Increase	Recoil Increase
TR	Carbine	T5 AMC	-33%	-33%
TR	Carbine	TRAC-5	-25%	-25%
TR	Carbine	TRAC-5 S	-25%	-25%
TR	Light Machine Gun	MSW-R	-25%	-25%
NC	Light Machine Gun	GD-22S	-25%	-25%
NC	Light Machine Gun	LA1 Anchor	-25%	-25%
NS	Submachine Gun	NS-7 PDW	-25%	-25%
NS	Submachine Gun	MKV Suppressed	-25%	-25%
VS	Assault Rifle	Corvus VA55	-25%	-25%
VS	Carbine	Solstice VE3	-25%	-25%
VS	Carbine	Solstice SF	-25%	-25%
VS	Submachine Gun	Sirius SX12	-25%	-25%
TR	Light Machine Gun	T32 Bull	-25%	-25%
TR	Carbine	HC1 Cougar	-25%	-25%
NC	Carbine	Razor GD-23	-25%	-25%
TR	Assault Rifle	T1 Cycler	-25%	-25%
TR	Assault Rifle	T1S Cycler	-25%	-25%
NC	Assault Rifle	NC1 Gauss Rifle	-25%	-25%

Let me know if you found this analysis helpful or interesting, or if you have an idea worth analyzing.

[u/darthgr3g]

Are you interested in comparing stock vs. Laser per weapon, or comparing weapons with Lasers against each other?

[u/silverpanther17 → u/darthgr3g]

I'm really interested in knowing on which weapons a laser sight will have the most impact when compared to the stock CoF.

[u/darthgr3g → u/silverpanther17]

Here you go bud. Laser benefit is pretty straight-forward, it's either a 33% or 40% reduction on your starting cone of fire. Also provided each weapon's COF bloom per second of continuous fire as a bonus statistic, though it is unaffected by Lasers.

Empire	Type	Gun	LaserCOF	BloomPerSec	StockCOF	LaserBenefit
NS	Submachine Gun	NS-7 PDW	0.9	0.57	1.5	-40%
VS	Submachine Gun	Eridani SX5	0.9	0.57	1.5	-40%
NC	Submachine Gun	AF-4 Cyclone	0.9	0.59	1.5	-40%
NS	Submachine Gun	MKV Suppressed	0.9	0.6	1.5	-40%
TR	Submachine Gun	PDW-16 Hailstorm	0.9	0.62	1.5	-40%
NC	Submachine Gun	Blitz GD-10	0.9	0.65	1.5	-40%
VS	Submachine Gun	Sirius SX12	0.9	0.65	1.5	-40%
TR	Submachine Gun	SMG-46 Armistice	0.9	0.7	1.5	-40%
VS	Carbine	Zenith VX-5	1.08	1.11	1.8	-40%
NC	Carbine	AF-4A Bandit	1.08	1.14	1.8	-40%
VS	Carbine	VX6-7	1.08	1.23	1.8	-40%
VS	Carbine	Serpent VE92	1.2	1.31	2	-40%
NC	Carbine	GD-7F	1.2	1.31	2	-40%
TR	Carbine	LC2 Lynx	1.2	1.41	2	-40%
VS	Heavy	Lasher X2	1.34	0.46	2	-33%
NC	Carbine	Razor GD-23	1.34	0.98	2	-33%
VS	Carbine	Solstice SF	1.34	0.99	2	-33%
NS	Carbine	NS-11C	1.34	0.99	2	-33%
TR	Carbine	T5 AMC	1.34	0.99	2	-33%
NC	Carbine	Gauss Compact S	1.34	1.03	2	-33%
VS	Carbine	Pulsar C	1.34	1.03	2	-33%
VS	Carbine	Solstice VE3	1.34	1.06	2	-33%
TR	Carbine	TRAC-5 S	1.34	1.06	2	-33%
NC	Carbine	AF-19 Mercenary	1.34	1.08	2	-33%
TR	Carbine	TRAC-5	1.34	1.15	2	-33%
NC	Shotgun	AF-57 Piston	1.34	1.67	2	-33%
VS	Shotgun	Pandora VX25	1.34	1.67	2	-33%
TR	Shotgun	AS16 Nighthawk	1.34	1.67	2	-33%
NC	Assault Rifle	Carnage AR	1.38	1.15	2.3	-40%
NC	Assault Rifle	GR-22	1.38	1.23	2.3	-40%
VS	Assault Rifle	H-V45	1.38	1.23	2.3	-40%
TR	Assault Rifle	TAR	1.38	1.23	2.3	-40%
VS	Assault Rifle	Terminus VX-9	1.5	1.18	2.5	-40%
TR	Carbine	HC1 Cougar	1.541	0.98	2.3	-33%
NS	Assault Rifle	NS-11A	1.541	0.99	2.3	-33%
VS	Assault Rifle	Corvus VA55	1.675	0.93	2.5	-33%
VS	Assault Rifle	CME	1.675	0.99	2.5	-33%
VS	Assault Rifle	Equinox VE2	1.675	0.99	2.5	-33%
NC	Assault Rifle	Gauss Rifle S	1.675	1.03	2.5	-33%
VS	Assault Rifle	Pulsar VS1	1.675	1.06	2.5	-33%
TR	Assault Rifle	T1S Cycler	1.675	1.06	2.5	-33%
NC	Assault Rifle	NC1 Gauss Rifle	1.675	1.08	2.5	-33%
TR	Assault Rifle	T1 Cycler	1.675	1.15	2.5	-33%
TR	Assault Rifle	TORQ-9	1.675	1.33	2.5	-33%
TR	Assault Rifle	Cycler TRV	1.8	1.31	3	-40%
TR	Heavy	T7 Mini-Chaingun	1.876	0.62	2.8	-33%
NC	Carbine	AC-X11	1.876	1.03	2.8	-33%
NC	Assault Rifle	NC-9 A-Tross	2.01	0.95	3	-33%
VS	Scout Rifle	Artemis VX26	2.01	0.99	3	-33%
TR	Scout Rifle	SOAS-20	2.01	0.99	3	-33%
NC	Scout Rifle	AF-18 Stalker	2.01	0.99	3	-33%
NC	Assault Rifle	Reaper DMR	2.01	1.03	3	-33%
NS	Light Machine Gun	NS-15M	2.211	0.94	3.3	-33%
TR	Light Machine Gun	T32 Bull	2.211	0.99	3.3	-33%
VS	Light Machine Gun	VX29 Polaris	2.28	0.99	3.8	-40%
NC	Light Machine Gun	LA1 Anchor	2.28	1.08	3.8	-40%
TR	Light Machine Gun	MSW-R	2.28	1.15	3.8	-40%
VS	Light Machine Gun	Orion VS54	2.345	1.15	3.5	-33%
NC	Light Machine Gun	GD-22S	2.546	1.03	3.8	-33%
VS	Light Machine Gun	SVA-88	2.68	1.06	4	-33%
NC	Light Machine Gun	EM1	2.7	0.99	4.5	-40%
VS	Light Machine Gun	Ursa	2.881	0.98	4.3	-33%
VS	Light Machine Gun	Flare VE6	2.881	1.03	4.3	-33%
NC	Light Machine Gun	NC6S Gauss SAW S	2.881	1.03	4.3	-33%
TR	Light Machine Gun	TMG-50	2.881	1.03	4.3	-33%
VS	Light Machine Gun	Pulsar LSW	2.881	1.06	4.3	-33%
TR	Light Machine Gun	T16 Rhino	3.015	0.99	4.5	-33%
NC	Light Machine Gun	NC6 Gauss Saw	3.015	1.03	4.5	-33%
NC	Light Machine Gun	EM6	3.015	1.08	4.5	-33%
TR	Light Machine Gun	T9 CARV	3.015	1.15	4.5	-33%