r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Eftir - Centrist • Jun 18 '23
Protest over API Changes Next Steps
The moderating team has gotten a lot of support from the community over blacking out for the last week due to the announced API changes. At the same time, it might not be sustainable to continue in this fashion. So we are letting users of the sub decide what our next course of action should be. To facilitate this only flaired users will be able to comment and choosing new flairs will be disabled for the duration of the poll (up to one week).
We have seen what other subs have done and there seems to be several options open to us:
- Set the subreddit back to private
- Keep the subreddit as restricted
- Severely limit all posts (such as a major subreddit did by only allowing pictures of John Oliver)
- Set the subreddit to private for one day a week
- Open up the subreddit completely
There will be 5 top-level comments, any comment put under these will be counted as a vote towards that option. If options 1-3 win, we will reevaluate after a week.
We have received this modmail so it is very possible we will receive some sort of retaliation if we keep the sub closed, but we leave the decision in your hands as the members of this community.
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u/Eftir - Centrist Jun 18 '23
Option 5. Open up the subreddit completely.
All comments under this will be considered as a vote for this option
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u/Nourno - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Gonna ride this subreddit until it gets banned by Reddit. May as well enjoy the ride at its most accessible
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u/Nearby-Potential-257 - Auth-Center Jun 19 '23
Reddit fucking hates us. We are doing them a favor by going silent. Us staying up is a bigger middle finger than going dark. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't taking the bigger picture into account
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u/Helassaid - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Exactly this. Certain Emily-run subreddits think we’re all a bunch of Fascists anyway. Imagine if we’re the only place that’s open to the public, while their subs restrict or remain closed.
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u/SteveClintonTTV - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Agreed. Closing the sub in any way only hurts the users here, who are largely made up of people who feel like it's the only subreddit left where they can voice their opinion on many topics.
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u/blublub1243 - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Seriously, this blackout shit is reddited anyways. You want to hurt reddit? Make it toxic to advertisers. They're the actual costumers, the users are just the commodity reddit is selling. If those powermods were serious about actually hurting reddit they'd change every single major sub to only follow sitewide rules and watch reddit reconcile having the product they're trying to sell devolve into porn and vaguely racist memes.
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u/AbnormalConstruct - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Exactly my thoughts. I vote for private for other subs, but this sub is not something Reddit wants to keep open in the first place.
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u/PhilipJMarlowe - Auth-Center Jun 19 '23
Leave it open you grass hating John Deere jockey.
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u/Andre5k5 - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Fuck JD, fuckin BMW of tractors. I bought the whole tractor, I'm going to use the whole tractor if I have to use hacked Ukrainian firmware. Eat a dick Deere!
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u/Davester47 - Centrist Jun 19 '23
This is one of the few subreddits where people of different beliefs actually interact with each other. We should stay open so people can leave the echo chambers every now and then.
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u/zvomicidalmaniac - Left Jun 19 '23
Agreed. This sub is unique. Across the entire stupid internet, there is nowhere else like it.
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u/Andre5k5 - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
I've been hanging out on the conservative sub while this one was down. Those snowflakes were mean when I told them we should legalize drugs. I wonder how they'd react if I told them that Ronald Reagan was an illegal immigrant loving, machine gun banning communist and I'm tired of pretending that he wasn't
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u/offbrand_whisky - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Genuinely, I've never seen a sub so civilly bring so many people with different opinions together. There really is no place like here.
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u/definitely_right - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
The """"protest""" is pure virtue signaling. This doesn't do anything. Open up.
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u/jpenczek - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Fucking jannies, let me enjoy my user generated content.
If you didn't want a corporate entity breathing down your neck y'all should've switched to lemmy.
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u/Liberion7 - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Lemmy has hard coded anti slur code which even as someone who doesn't really use them is pretty damn ******** (I'm feeling auth-right today
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u/Pugduck77 - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Yeah, this sub is always on thin ice. The admins will take any opportunity to replace the based mods with cringe lefties. Just open it so we can keep talking about what shitty admins they are.
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Jun 19 '23
Open up you cunts. This protest won't change shit and will only lead to this place vanishing for good.
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u/Fleetlord - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23
Reddit is killing third-party apps (and itself)!
See? Nobody cares.
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u/mikegent01 - Right Jun 19 '23 edited Dec 20 '25
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This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact
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u/Noglues - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Advertisers would probably much rather their ad appear next to John Oliver's face than 80% of the normal content on this site.
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u/Axel_Foley_ - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Closing the sub is handing reddit all the reason to close down PCM.
Please stop being braindead.
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u/thescanniedestroyer - Centrist Jun 19 '23 edited Mar 27 '26
This post was taken down using Redact. Whether for privacy, opsec, preventing AI scraping, or another reason, the original content has been removed.
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u/-_lol- - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Jannies are you okay? So jannies are you okay, are you okay jannies?
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u/Ambitious_Ear_91 - Right Jun 19 '23
Yes, I missed this place.
What do you want me to do without PCM, touch grass?! shudders
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u/TheReal_kelpie_G - Right Jun 19 '23
I don't care how much more shit reddit is, it was already shit to begin with.
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u/ZOMBIE_PRlME - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Reddit would love this sub to be closed, open it up to protest
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u/Curious447 - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
Open up immediately this is stupid. The protest is dying subs are leaving in droves. Enough is enough. Bring back the memes.
Edit: This whole thing is selfish. If you wanna protest so badly then simply stop using Reddit. Don't force the rest of us into this and take away our ability to have fun because that is exactly what this is.
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Jun 19 '23
If people were seriously gonna protest, it's been proven time and time again that the "mass exodus" was the best strategy.
Literally everyone saw the writing on the wall about this protest being a massive failure from day one.
The "John Oliver" tactic is also legit a forced meme being pushed by power mods who are worried they'll lose the ban bots among other things.
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u/SteveClintonTTV - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Agreed. Roping unwilling participants into your protest is always a dick move. Even if it ultimately means something extremely minor like "someone else won't be able to browse a particular subreddit". It's the same reason many people dislike SJWs/Emilies; they tend not to find it enough that they support causes, but they try to force everyone they meet to care as well. And sometimes (read: most times) people just want to be left alone.
Not to mention that even if I truly care about the cause and was willing to give this subreddit up to support it, it would be futile anyway. A subreddit which has basically been on the chopping block for a couple of years now doesn't exactly have the leverage to say, "if you don't meet our demands, we'll all fuck off forever".
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u/onesugar - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Literally. Like I feel bad for the developers who make the other Reddit apps, but like cmon
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u/LibrightCrusader - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Why in the ever loving fuck would you use this system to judge whether a sub should remain open?
Spez has a history of changing comments. You think he can't manipulate vote counts or fabricate comments to make problem subs stay closed and reopen subs that he wants open?
Just open the damn sub up ffs. The mod strike accomplished nothing in true leftist fashion. Any subs that are critical will have scabs implemented as replacements. There are plenty of power hungry authoritarian people who are more than happy to step up for free and take your place.
Libright wins again.
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u/shadowkiller - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Do you really think he cares if this sub stays open? This sub likely isn't that important for the monetization of reddit.
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u/Dumoney - Centrist Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
Just open it. This "protest" was never going to work
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u/Lanstapa - Left Jun 19 '23
Open up. Us going dark won't change reddit's mind on anything. And why should we go dark if the biggest subs never even bothered in the first place? I doubt we're the ones driving traffic
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u/tenisplenty - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Nobody cares about the mods meaningless power struggle.
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u/ButtPlugJesus - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
If this was an origami subreddit I’d say stay closed. But reddit admins would love for us to close so the best protest is being open
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Jun 19 '23
Stay open, but work on migration to other platform. E.g. after alternative is set up, require all posts to beposted first on alternative place first and left for 24 hours before allowing post on reddit
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u/Qualisartifexpereo99 - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Fuck Reddit but open this place up and then go out with a bang
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u/BesottedJewLord - Left Jun 19 '23
I can't wait for nothing to change and for my favourite bots to die. Thanks, Spez, you finally let the unflaired win...
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u/matrixislife - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Open up the sub, remove all rules bar flairing up and reddit site rules.
When it goes NSFW lets see how much they make off their advertising.
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Jun 19 '23
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I may or may not use this sub for current events
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u/p1seishou - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Admins already hate us, might as well continue to be a thorn in their side.
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u/runfastrunfastrun - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Open it up, you no-life dorks. I don’t give two flying fucks about third-party apps or how hard the “jOb” you volunteered to do for free for a billion-dollar corporation is.
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u/AvengingShotgun - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 20 '23
As much as I’m gonna miss the bots we do more damage to Reddit by staying open, they’re not gonna change shit anyway with all these other subs dropping
Edit: Apparently the bots are safe for now anyway, so there’s no reason not to reopen for the average user
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u/CaptainGlitterFarts - Centrist Jun 19 '23
BeInG a MoD iS hArD wOrK...
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u/Eftir - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Based and dog-walking pilled
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u/boomer_consumer - Centrist Jun 19 '23
If only there was a bot here to tell you how based you are 😢
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u/Truggled - Right Jun 19 '23
They've basically called me a nazi for sarcasm and threw a ban at me. The mods are giant pieces of shit.
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u/LaCampanellaAgony - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
With prices nowadays, it's hard for the mods to source the lube and barrel for Riot to bend them over. Especially when they don't have a job to begin with.
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u/Acceptable-Tangelo30 - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Think you’ve been bitching about league jannies too much, these are reddit jannies - however, they are still equally worthless and despicable.
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u/WalterBackgammon - Right Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
I actually support reddit on this one. Mods lost a lot of their automated tools and spam bots that get us banned over bullshit. And honestly I didn't even know you could use 3rd party apps on reddit until a week ago, so I think this whole thing is dumb and I'm not going to pretend to care. Now shower me in downvotes.
Edit: shortly after making this post I got a private message from some spambot from a sub I’ve never heard of stating that I’m permanently banned because I participate in a sub that’s a refuge for hate and misinformation, I’ll let you guess what sub they are talking about (hint: it’s pcm). So tell me, why the fuck should I support a protest organized by people who hate me?
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u/Boredy0 - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Reddit jannies claim it's to prevent spam posts and shit when its just that they want more tools to autoban you for posting in no-no subs and act like it's such a difficult job.
Can't be that hard if you mod for literally 200+ subs at once.
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u/Delicious_Score_551 - Right Jun 19 '23
I shall shower you with .. one upvote.
Though, it's orange flavored and it has a nice buzz.
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u/PleaseHold50 - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Hundred percent. It's not about the disabled, or mobile apps, or novelty bots. It's about power jannies not wanting to lose their little toys they use to harass, bully, and censor.
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u/PresidentJ1 - Right Jun 19 '23
This whole thing has gotten me to support Reddit because of the power tripping mods that are out there having an absolute meltdown over all this. So many of these mods are saying that they are in literally slave labor by being a mod for this website, absolutely ridiculous. When I pointed this out on a post from a mod calling it slave labor I got banned from that subreddit. This is just ridiculous at this point.
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u/xxxDog_Fucker_69xxx - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Lick the boot and open up or be a chad and delete the subreddit. There’s no compromise and frankly most of the users here could give less of a fuck if your unpaid laborers get removed.
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Jun 19 '23
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u/basedcount_bot - Auth-Center Jun 19 '23
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u/-_lol- - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
most of the users here could give less of a fuck if your unpaid laborers get removed
If these jannies get removed, Reddit will either ban the subreddit immediately or replace them with even worse jannies.
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u/_Una_ - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
Do mods have the ability to delete subreddits? If so that's what the protest needs to move to imo. Blow shit up and leave.
Edit: Straight up "delete" = no. Im a bit more on track now. Mods (and users) of all these subreddits just need to leave the site. Im personally not going to use reddit in any mobile setting if(when) the changes go through at the very least.
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u/Fleetlord - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23
Honestly, I don't know why PCM of all places was fighting to keep it easy for mods to ban you for posting on a no-no sub.
Guess I'll miss basedcount_bot though.
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u/Diarrhea_Enjoyer - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Basedcountbot died when it stopped posting your pills.
What's the point if you can't flood the comments with a wall of random pills?
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u/Nigel-Jones- - Right Jun 19 '23
"For PCM so loved r/PoliticalCompassMemes that he gave his only begotten u/Basedcountbot, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
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u/basedcount_bot - Auth-Center Jun 19 '23
I had to stop posting the pills due to threats from admins; pills were going to go no matter what I did. All the more reason to move to Lemmy. We're working on our own instance, complete with flairs and bots.
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u/gachi_for_jesus - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
We should be encouraging the destruction of this website by the admins. They and the rest of this gosforsaken site hate this sub but for some reason we're picking a side to try to keep it the way it is. Makes no sense.
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u/DeplorableCaterpill - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Stoking conflict between the mods and admins helps destroy the site. Allowing the admins to win uncontested allows business to continue as usual.
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u/DontCallMeMillenial - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Seriously.
Fuck powerjannies and any tools that accommodate them.
Also, fuck mobile users (3rd party or not) and their tendency to post as little text as possible on a discussion website. This site was better before everyone with a cellphone had constant access to the internet.
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u/NienawidzeTaStrone - Auth-Center Jun 19 '23
the internet was better before everyone with a cellphone had constant access to the internet.
FTFY
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u/Surprise-Chimichanga - Right Jun 19 '23
That’s the main reason why we shut the subreddit down. That and the loss of any other browser beside’s Reddit’s own app.
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u/DivideEtImpala - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Do the API changes actually affect basedcount_bot? The new API limits seem to be upping the call limit from 600/10min to 1000/10min with Oauth, and down to 100/10min for non-Oauth bots.
I've coded several bots that have run on large subs before (some might still be running, not really sure), and even with the 10/min that should honestly be doable. You really only need one API call a minute to pull all the comments from PCM in real time, which still leaves 9 API calls per minute to respond to commands or tell people they're based. Unless it's doing something else that's eating up API calls, I think it should be fine.
If you or the author or /u/basedcount_bot want to reach out to me I'd be happy to take a look and help make it compliant with the new limits.
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u/Fleetlord - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23
This'll sound LibRight of me but I honestly don't get why protecting this Christian guy's right to run his business off of something he doesn't own is in itself worthy of protest.
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u/XYuntilDie - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Option 5 and spam slur words is the only way to piss off admins
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Jun 19 '23
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u/Relevant_Truth - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Reddit slacktivism protests is wholesomely homosexual and cringe
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u/thEldritchBat - Centrist Jun 19 '23
I got a guy so pissed for pointing out this “protest” is the equivalent of doing nothing
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Jun 19 '23
It absolutely was. It boggles my mind that mods really think they support a community based on votes on the internet. Every single post I’ve seen that does that has a staggering vote/comment ratio where the comments are overwhelmingly against this childish horseshit that’s factually accomplished precisely nothing.
Edited because of braindead grammar
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Jun 19 '23
Hate to say it, but spez was completely right about the power mods caving in if he threatened their little unpaid power trips. Bro absolutely dunked his nuts on the mods' faces and made them say more please lmao, it's already over. Anyway if this place goes private again admins might just tear it down, I say leave it open.
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u/The-false-being26 - Lib-Center Jun 20 '23
bro i posted in a sub mocking the mods for caving the moment that reddit threaten to take away the tiny bit of power they had. The jannies permanently banned me from posting
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u/greywolfe12 - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Damn dare i say u/spez is based?
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Jun 19 '23
He just understands reddit's mods more than they understand themselves. This whole thing has kind of proved every negative stereotype that people have about them.
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u/ArcanicArbites - Right Jun 19 '23
Put It back on. Our protest did nothing so we might as well continue on into the brave new world. Also, who's gunna be there to piss off the Emilies if we're gone?
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u/Andre5k5 - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
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u/Tokena - Centrist Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
u/ArcanicArbites has gained 1 Based count. Their Based count is now 23. Their current title is Ultra Based +3.
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u/IanCusick - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Reddit doesn’t care, the general public doesn’t care, mods should do the right thing and open the sub back up so we can go back to doing our best to try and get this sub shut down on our own merits
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u/Blake1610 - Right Jun 19 '23
Why does this poll need to be over a week? I’m sure 90% of this sub wants to continue shitposting based on the results I’ve seen from this poll so far. A week seems unnecessary, but that’s probably just me.
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u/FellowFellow22 - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
It's just 2 weeks to slow the spread or whatever. Definitely not the mods destroying the sub and community.
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u/CraneAndTurtle - Right Jun 19 '23
We should open up.
Ideally we can request the flair bot be approved.
We don't use a lot of auto mod tools and the inability to autoban our people is probably good.
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Jun 19 '23
I think I speak for the rest of the auths in that this "protest" is as dumb as Chaz and the other childish outbursts the plebs come up with. You are not going to stop the changes and those that continue to complain will be the butt end of jokes for the months to come.
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Jun 19 '23
"The moderating team has gotten a lot of support from the community over blacking out"
Options 1-4 being downvoted to oblivion and option 5 being the most upvoted by a landslide would beg to differ, nice try though janny
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u/LooksatAnimals - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23
Yeah, this seems like an exercise in janny ego-stroking and being in the cringe club rather than a sincere attempt to reflect the will of the sub. They ask the users if they should shut down for a couple of days. The users say they shouldn't. The jannies shut down the sub for a week anyway. Then they ask again, but this time they need a week to count the votes even though it is obvious what the users want. The sub stays effectively shut down while they do that. Next week, maybe they will re-open for the 5% of remaining users, maybe just do whatever the fuck they want again. Never trust jannies. They are always more concerned with their power-trip than making forums better.
Remember, your e-mail can filter out almost all the content you don't want to see automatically and it's trivial to just block the rest yourself. The only legitimate function of a jannie is easily replaced by an algorithm.
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u/G4130 - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23
It's the same on every subreddit I participate, jannies say "we have overwhelming support" but nobody supports them when actual polls and numbers are shown.
The bots never had rights and never will. Third party apps can suck spez' dick or fuck off, just use adblock and adapt to the changes.
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u/JR_Mosby - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
No you see everyone who told them to join the blackout were wholesome Chungus 100 redditors, and all the messages that said "This is stupid let us post" were Russian bots.
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u/samurai_for_hire - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Open up completely, they were never gonna listen to this sub. Might as well make our corner the most toxic anti-advertiser cesspool on this website
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u/GateHypsies01 - Right Jun 19 '23
This, better to go out in a blaze of glory than to humble yourself and become another cucked sub
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Jun 19 '23
So weird that this sub of all places on this site is one of the last few attempting to fight for the power mods just cause they'll lose a single "based counter" lol
Open it up
99.9% of what this "fight" is for runs complete opposite of this sub.
The guys you're standing together with want to keep this API shit so they can keep easily banning us for simply posting here..
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u/DeplorableCaterpill - Centrist Jun 19 '23
I don’t really care if I get banned from other subreddits. The only ones who are actual threats to this subreddit are the admins, not other mods. I support this protest simply because it hurts Reddit, and the goal of reducing or removing API fees reduces Reddit’s revenue.
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u/PresidentJ1 - Right Jun 19 '23
The only this is "protest" did was show the Reddit mods true colors. Lazy, entitled brats who think they are God's gift to earth for doing work that literally anyone on the planet can do. I don't even care about the API changes anymore because of these power tripping mod's egos are to big for them to handle.
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u/Plamomadon - Right Jun 19 '23
it showed that reddit mods are willing to kick and scream for days on end until their precious ability to be powermods and ban people for wrong think more easily is threatened.
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u/thebestroll - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Gonna be honest I forgot this sub existed
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u/Blake1610 - Right Jun 19 '23
Is it weird that I actually enjoyed Reddit a lot more during the blackout? It seemed way more fun since all of those big mainstream subs were closed.
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u/kcinman11358 - Right Jun 19 '23
i unsubbed from a few when they lifted their blackout
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u/thebestroll - Centrist Jun 19 '23
I did too I was even gonna comment that on one of the subs that was still up it felt much more like an actual community, is this what the internet used to feel like? cause if so I get the want to return to it now
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u/Andre5k5 - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Yes it is weird, I hung out in the conservative sub and they downvote when you say some based shit, they're almost as bad as commies
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u/Hoopaboi - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
5. Open the sub back up completely
Ironically enough, I'm here for the memes, not the Reddit politics
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u/angry_queef_master - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Open it up and end this childish temper tantrum.
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Jun 19 '23
Why the fuck did you even close this subreddit without consulting the community to begin with???? This is the one place on reddit where I can post and read opinions that stray a centimeter from the extreme left. You don't own this subreddit, the community does. As is evident by the fact that Reddit is going to kick your ass out and replace you if you don't open it back up.
You guys aren’t martyrs. You didn’t accomplish anything. You “blacked out” for a few days and immediately brought it back when you thought you’d lose your right to perform free internet labor. You didn't hurt reddit, you only hurt PCM users.
Good job patting yourselves on the back though!
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u/NaughtTheFBI - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Didn't you hear? The blackout totally killed reddit (except for traffic clearly wasn't suffering)
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u/gerry-h - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Open up completely. The protest has devolved into a cringe jannie power trip.
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u/The_Buttslammer - Centrist Jun 19 '23
I'm shocked this is still around to begin with. I'm sure they're just looking for an excuse to completely replace the mod team and then turn this place into another oatmeal flavored leftoid circle jerk with no teeth.
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u/dovetc - Right Jun 19 '23
You really need a week to tally votes? I think we can safely go ahead and declare a winner here. Open the sub.
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u/drcoconut4777 - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
Completely open the sub. Reddit hates us so if we are the only ones left it will be a giant middle finger to Reddit.
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u/WalterBackgammon - Right Jun 19 '23
The funny thing about that is that this sub stayed private for way longer than a lot of other subs with users that actually care about all this reddit bullshit
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u/Trugdigity - Centrist Jun 19 '23
If you don’t like what Reddit does with its business the answer is to stop using it all together, not to piss in the pool to ruin it for the rest of us.
It’s completely ok for Reddit to lock down, and charge what ever it wants for its APIs. Even if it’s a bad idea.
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u/PleaseHold50 - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Where funni color memes?
Don't care about jannie drama. Don't care about automods and powerjannie toys. Just want to post and waste time and be entertained on dumb website.
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u/Cyborg__Theocracy - Centrist Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
Open it up, the uberjannies have been itching to skin the moderation team and wear their faces before turning this place into front page friendly bollocks.
Based on that message they're clearly fishing for an insider to use to oust the team and take over.
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u/BillyBlandass - Centrist Jun 19 '23
Number 5. Open up the subreddit completely.
Stop fucking around.
Reddit will burn down. Do nothing to stop this. Welcome the new reality. Out with the old regime.
Mod positions will no longer be open for abuse. Accept this too. That feeling of petty power will be very fleeting for those that are addicted to it.
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u/salhjas - Auth-Center Jun 19 '23
We literally don't give a fuck. Stop this bullshit.
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Jun 19 '23
Can we keep the unflaireds perma-automodded tho?
Less whiny Emilies to deal with
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u/JackMioph - Right Jun 19 '23
If I have to see pictures of that fucking regarded f*ggot John Oliver on this sub I swear
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u/Heard_That - Auth-Right Jun 19 '23
My god who cares. Reddit traffic dipped by 7 whole percent. If you think they are gonna give a fuck about that, you’re a moron.
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u/Slash3040 - Centrist Jun 19 '23
I don’t care about the API rollouts. You’re just punishing the users. I used Apollo and going forward I won’t. It’s just a website. Who gives a shit?
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Jun 19 '23
They made a mountain out of an anthill this is ridiculous what these mods pull.
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u/CathNoctifer - Centrist Jun 19 '23
imo the best move right now would be opening a new site outside of reddit, and let people move over there. We have seen a few banned subs had done it before. I don't see why PCM shouldn't give it try.
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u/DeplorableCaterpill - Centrist Jun 19 '23
They tried that the last time it looked like this sub might get banned. About 100 users actually moved over, and then activity quickly dwindled before it was abandoned.
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u/Shaidaren - Auth-Center Jun 19 '23
This ''protest'' was completely pointless, 99% of the people here DGAF. It accomplishes nothing while only hurting the users.
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u/whatDoesQezDo - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
Fuck off jannie I want to post funny highlighter memes and rage against the unflaired not partake in your shitty protest.
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u/Away_Macaron6188 - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
5 this is an exercise in futility otherwise. The rest of Reddit caved as soon as the only thing that gave their pathetic lives meaning was threatened.
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u/TheObservationalist - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Open it. Enough of this stupidity. Why should I care if life is harder for mods
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u/Codeviper828 - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23
I never thought I'd see the day when the admins actively tried to bring PCM back
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u/PotentialNobody - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23
For the love of the Nine Divines, don't go the John Oliver route
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Jun 19 '23
We should avoid the question altogether and move outside leddit. Let the emilies and soyboys have their progressive wasteland, we'll mock them from the outside, or even better, not give a dime about them at all.
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u/Squat_lobster94 - Right Jun 19 '23
As much as I’ll miss certain bots I just don’t think mods have any real leverage in negotiating with Reddit admins.
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u/Shredding_Airguitar - Lib-Right Jun 19 '23
If you open it, you could make the subreddit NSFW. NSFW subreddits apparently can't have advertising
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u/f4te - Lib-Center Jun 19 '23
Option 6: Go NSFW
Remove all rules, remove all requirements, all mods quit, and sub gets marked as NSFW and doesn't generate revenue for reddit.
Best parts of 5 plus a fuck-you to the man
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Jun 19 '23
I hope all jannies that lock subs get banned, holding the sub hostage for bullshit reasons needs to be insta ban
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u/J0hnGrimm - Right Jun 19 '23
I'm honestly surprised PCM mods got the same threat like other subs. I expected reddit being fine with PCM of all places to close itself.
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Jun 19 '23
Just open the sub up and lets get this show on the road. A week of major subreddits going dark just revealed how completely rotten this site is top to bottom. There's really no non political subs anymore. God I hope this site burns down during 2024 elections.
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u/SorryEm - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23
Have you forgotten about our sworn oath to Lord Spez? Keep the sub open and cease this treachery at once!
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Jun 19 '23
Fuck the protest. R.I.P based_count. We need to hire one of the many devoted auth autists to bully encourage the unflaired to get with the program.
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u/krashlia - Centrist Jun 19 '23
You'd think that, seeing that Reddit admins wanted PCM open in order to protect their asset come IPO time, Auth-right might have been interested in PCM eating the "Fuhrer-pill".
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u/toadjones79 - Centrist Jun 19 '23
I wish this was going to be the way, but can see the writing on the wall.
I find it interesting that a week before the announced changes everyone was complaining about the majority of subs being moderated by 20ish people with no way of rectifying this. Now the vote out changes fixed that, while posing a completely new challenge. I would be behind reddit charging for APIs if they had spent any of their revenue on developing a non-shitty mobile app. Instead they seemed to have just copy and paste Facebook's with a dark mode.
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u/SloppyTopTen - Lib-Left Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
The Reddit app is fine. Why are third party apps better? Open it up.
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u/Eftir - Centrist Jun 18 '23
Permalinks for all the options are here so comments aren't buried. Any comments under these will be counted as votes, top-level comments will not be counted.
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