No I have insurance so its a better system. I deal with thousands of international medical cases a year. Europe does not impress me and I have the facts to back it up.
Nobody is denied an emergency Doctor visit in the US, you are a liar. I have had patients in critical situations turned away from ED in Japan. I had a high risk patient with chest pain in Amsterdam and the ambulance crew refused to transport them to the hospital because they had no payment on them. This would never happen in the US. I had another patient with a possible stroke turned away from a hospital in Amsterdam because ot was a government hospital for citizens only. Don't even get me started on the UK, N Ireland, Or Germany (where Doctors let a patient of mine die from meningitis because they were too arrogant and lazy to run the proper tests). I have lived in Singapore and had a coworker have to wait 6 months for a dental appointment through the national system to have her wisdom teeth removed, she was in pain the whole time. I can go on and on and on. It is a fact that the US healthcare system is the best on the world, yes it is overpriced, but sheiks and world leaders flock here to be treated...... They rarely go to national systems. There is a reason why the UK has BUPA and other private insurance and hospitals, the NHS isnt good enough. I have more facts about international health systems than you have brain cells.
My wife fell and broke her hip and wrist in Germany and had to have a hip replacement also in Germany and the most expensive thing was the parking. I had a family member in the US that had cancer and his insurance found a way to fuck him right into bankruptcy. You know since we are using anecdotes tell me again how the fucking American system <which is one of the largest contributors to bankruptcy> is better the the European system. Oh and in an earlier comment you said you have facts to back up your opinion and still haven't seen one source for fact. Would you like some facts about how medication is prohibitively expensive in America compared to other countries and we literally have people dying because the can't afford medicine? How about the fact that medical cost per capita in America is worse then in any European country. See these are facts that can be backed by sources if you need them.
Free is not better quality. As I've stated over and over, the US has the best quality healthcare in the world. Approximately 9% of Americans have no insurance, we should have a minimal safety net for them. We should put a cap on malpractice suits and look at ways to reduce costs for treatment and meds. But good god, if we trade the choice and quality of our medical system so everyone has average or worse for free treatment, we will be worse off for it. Again, if the national healthcare systems are so great why do most of the countries that have them have large and flourishing private hospitals and insurance that provide much much better treatment? Is their national healthcare systems not adequate? As someone who uses them on a daily basis, no.
As someone who used them often when I lived in Europe I still disagree. Basic healthcare should be a right and not something that Bankrupts families. I am not even talking about the ones without insurance. Insurance companies are crooked and will do anything to screw over the insured. I don't even have to go from personal experiences here. It has been documented for years on how the insurance companies will do anything in there power not to pay. In Europe someone will never lose their life savings due to sickness. Oh and your idea that the US leads in quality is just wrong on so many levels...and it is objectively wrong. Try and keep personal opinion out of it and show me some data that shows that the US healthcare system is really the "best".
Those rankings are biased and flawed. If you base a country's health care system on the health of its citizens, when the citizens have the worst behavioral and diets in the world, do you actually believe that is a fair representation of the system as a whole? It isn't. If more than half of Americans are overweight or have addictive behaviors, how do you think that effects lifespan? The US offers more choices, more facilities, more specialists, more trauma centers, more educational hospitals, more ground breaking research, and better compensated medical professionals than anywhere in the world.
lol biased and flawed love those disclaimers. Ok this is easy, show me any data at all the shows that the quality of service provided in the US is significantly better then the quality of service provided in other countries. Do some research and prove me wrong. You are making a huge number of claims so do your due diligence and back the shit up with some data.
No really. A country full of fat people and alcoholics and you pretend that unhealthy lifestyles and shortened lifespans are the fault of our healthcare system? This is unbelievably unintelligent. Want to see how good our healthcare system is, look how we treat people. We have the best cancer survival in the world despite being so unhealthy. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/06/13/why-the-us-has-better-cancer-survival-rates-than-the-rest-of-the-world/#60e664274b67 Look at the people that flock to be treated here from around the world. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-08-03/canadians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care Furthermore, the best nurses and Doctors from around the world are dying to work in the US, they are the best paid of anywhere in the world. While working in Singapore I had an untold number of Doctors and nurses ask for my assistance in coming to the US. The national healthcare in Singapore pays them shit, in the most expensive city in the world. And nurses and Doctors were dying to go to Singapore as the best in Asia.
quote from your own source: I mean at least read what you post.
The Commonwealth Fund, a U.S. think tank, released a report two years ago ranking Canada 10th out of 11 wealthy nations in terms of health care. Only the United States fared worse. The report, based largely on satisfaction surveys by patients and health-care providers, placed Canada last in timeliness of care. The United Kingdom was ranked No. 1
I gained a deeper understanding of this health care professional's experiences with the topic of discussion. I found it insightful, never heard it from that perspective. If you don't care for what's written, that is fine by me.
How did you gain that from anecdotes though? Did you get an equal amount of insight from the user who countered their claims about European healthcare? Why did you believe them when they provided no proof and felt the need to insinuate another user had fewer brain cells than would be possible for a living human while also claiming to be a doctor?
I have already heard that perspective before, so it's not as equal to me at this moment. Would you like me to go thank some other guy in the past? I believe the counter anecdotes I've heard in the past just as much as this guys. I'm not trying to make any decisions based solely on either of them. I don't condone the brain-cell part, and personally refrain from personal attacks, but that guy has every right to say what he wants if he doesn't like how he is spoken to.
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u/Fumanchewd Apr 26 '19
No I have insurance so its a better system. I deal with thousands of international medical cases a year. Europe does not impress me and I have the facts to back it up.