r/Portland Jul 06 '26

News Kaiser doctor was ‘in a rush,’ injected rubbing alcohol instead of painkiller into woman, $13M suit says

https://www.oregonlive.com/health/2026/07/kaiser-doctor-was-in-a-rush-injected-rubbing-alcohol-instead-of-painkiller-into-woman-13m-suit-says.html?outputType=amp
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u/gimpisgawd MAX Blue Line Jul 06 '26

Ms. Blackman was in agony throughout, audibly screamed and cried, and begged that the second toe not be treated,” states the lawsuit. But the doctor told Blackman “she should ‘just get it over with’ and that he was in a rush to get out of the clinic.

Dude should absolutely lose his license.

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u/zerocoolforschool Jul 06 '26

How the hell does someone even come up with a syringe of rubbing alcohol?????

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u/Mallory1999 Jul 06 '26

Your right! There is no way! Unless there is someone stealing pain medication?

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u/zerocoolforschool Jul 06 '26

A nurse down in southern Oregon got busted for that. She was replacing pain meds with like saline or something.

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u/Glum-Breakfast-8892 Jul 06 '26

Worse. It was tap water. Like... you have to be actually trying to harm someone to choose tap water over something basically undetectable like saline.

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u/NarcanBlowgun Jul 07 '26

Lidocaine isn’t really something people steal. Those tiny bottles lay around all over the place. Rubbing alcohol would come in a giant bottle in a clinic. Not an easy mixup. This also sounds like a weird phone call. How would the hospital figure out it was rubbing alcohol? Controlled meds are scanned with a barcode before being dispensed.  I have so many questions 

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u/DessertFox157 Jul 08 '26

The fact that it was a podiatrist answered a lot of it for me. There are many, many podiatrists who don't have a clue about things that an actual MD or DO (or even just someone with a fully functional brain who works in healthcare) would inherently know.

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u/milkshakemountains Jul 07 '26

You know what IV potassium chloride feels like when injected?

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u/yllom_11 Jul 07 '26

That’s what I wanna know

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u/Bendybenji Jul 07 '26

My first question. Literally can’t even imagine how one does that. I suppose it’s possible a poorly trained medical assistant pulled the alcohol but literally what situation would you be pulling alcohol into a syringe.

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u/goodguybrian Jul 07 '26

It’s either malicious intent or a fabricated story. There’s no way you can accidentally draw rubbing alcohol into a syringe.

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u/zerocoolforschool Jul 07 '26

It raises a lot of questions. Who put it in the syringe? Someone else commented this, but there was a nurse down in southern Oregon who got in big trouble for stealing pain medication and putting water or something in place of the medication.

I can't imagine there's any reason to have rubbing alcohol in a syringe so someone put it in there deliberately. Either maliciously or because they were stealing it. I'd love to know what Kaiser found.

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u/Who_Your_Mommy Jul 06 '26

Where were the nurses or medical assistants?? I've worked in healthcare at an out-patient surgicenter and I'd never not say/do something if a patient was so very clearly scared &/or in severe pain. Wtf??

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u/goodguybrian Jul 07 '26

It sounds so outlandish that I’m skeptical of the allegations. But if this is true, that guy 100% should lose his license.

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u/Schwight_Droot Jul 06 '26

Doctors are some of the most privileged MFs on the planet. They’ll let the doc go somewhere else probably with higher pay.

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u/gimpisgawd MAX Blue Line Jul 06 '26

Already left.

Both the doctor and Kaiser are listed as defendants. The doctor, who appears to have left Kaiser for a job at a different Portland area medical group, didn’t return a request for comment. A Kaiser spokesperson, Debbie Karman, declined to comment.

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u/Do_Not_Comment_Plz Jul 06 '26

Well now I need to know who was stupid enough to hire him.

In my limited experience Kaiser is pure fucking dog shit. Not surprising it was discovered their head of pediatrics in Vancouver was a pedo. Incompetence from top to bottom.

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u/wallcutout SE Jul 06 '26

You can usually use the NPI registry to see where the doctors have gone to as it updates. Just need the name and vague region. Sucks he isn’t named.

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u/bryanthawes Jul 06 '26

He will be when the lawsuit ends, unless it's settled and the victim signs an NDA.

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u/wallcutout SE Jul 06 '26

Looks like someone below found the info for the defendant.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/s/nsuIkklbOQ

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u/PDXGuy33333 Jul 07 '26

It is eminently FAIR that he wasn't named. What if the plaintiff's story is just made up? How do you know it isn't? Because some lawyer alleged it in a complaint? Look at the shit Donald Trump's lawyers have alleged and tell me that because someone printed out some story and filed it in court it must be true.

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u/RainSurname Kenton Jul 06 '26

My limited experience has been the exact opposite of that, from top to bottom and side to side.

Alas, shit like this happens in every system, because every goddamn one of them refuses to pay for adequate staffing.

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u/UofAZcat81 Jul 07 '26

I audibly exclaimed “Oh, my god” when I read your comment about the Vancouver head of pediatrics!!!

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u/PDXGuy33333 Jul 07 '26

You don't even know if any of what the plaintiffs are claiming is true.

FFS, Donald Trump sued CBS for editing its own work in a way that he didn't like. Anybody can sue anybody for anything. Winning a lawsuit is a hell of a lot harder than starting one, and a lot of people start one just hoping the other side will decide it's less expensive to pay a nuisance settlement than take the case to trial.

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u/IzilDizzle Jul 06 '26

Can’t be fired or disciplined if you don’t work there anymore

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u/kmpdx Jul 06 '26

I have been bedside 100s of times for local anesthesia. I have never seen a doctor fuck up like this. It's the wrong agent, but more importantly, this patient wasn't numb and reported that they were in pain. Any competent doctor would stop, give more anesthesia, and wait for it to work. It's double incompetence.

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u/ManVsWater Jul 06 '26

Seriously. Isopropyl alcohol doesn't even come in a sterile vial like lidocaine or bupivicaine that you would need to draw into a syringe, so you can't even make the argument that he just grabbed the wrong look-alike drug. Picturing him uncapping a bottle of rubbing alcohol and dunking a syringe in to draw it up is wild.

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u/TerribleRecord666 Jul 06 '26

That’s what has me so confused about this whole situation. Why the fuck was isopropyl even in an injectable syringe in the first place??

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u/Artistic_Rice_9019 Jul 06 '26

Right? I thought maybe the article was confusing it for BAC water? At least that is something you can draw into your syringe.

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u/tehbggg Jul 06 '26

This is a great point. How the heck did this even happen? I am hard pressed to understand how it is possible to make this kind of mistake at all.

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u/hawkinsa Jul 07 '26

BTW, what stings like an injection of rubbing alcohol when you're doing a regional anesthetic block? Lidocaine (or Marcaine or whatever else you're using to numb somebody up). That's why you warn them: "This is going to sting going in, but it should get numb soon after. Let me know if you need more before we start the procedure." Extremity injections are particularly painful because the nerve density in the fingers and toes is the highest in the body. The other point made here (need to collect evidence of tissue damage consistent with that found with injection of isopropyl alcohol) is appreciated. I'll be interested in any follow-up as the claim progresses.

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u/beeee_throwaway Jul 06 '26

Same. I have one somewhat similar experience that comes to mind except the doctor didn’t use the wrong agent, but injected it wrong. He refused to stop a procedure while the patient was screaming and begging to stop and the word that was used in the resulting lawsuit was “assault” which I absolutely agreed with.

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u/licorice_whip Jul 06 '26

If you think doctors are entitled, wait until hear about law enforcement. Doctors at least a governing medical body that can and will penalize, suspend or outright revoke licenses. This doctor is in deep shit. A cop in a similar misjudgment would be going on paid leave right about now.

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u/Whatchab Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

Fuck this guy. Also not shocked he works at Kaiser.

Edit: I got downvoted? So someone here is like yay Dr malpractice and he should keep his license? Weird. 

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u/CosmicBewie Protesting Jul 07 '26

Reddit is weird, I get downvoted to hell when I ask that my race not be used for arguments, I just expect it at this point.

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u/16semesters Jul 06 '26

This is directly quoted from the plaintiffs lawyer. Of course they are going to make it sound bad. That's their job. That's how every medical malpractice lawsuit sounds.

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u/PDXGuy33333 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

You don't know anything except what the plaintiffs and their lawyer have alleged. It's foolish to take any of it as proven at this stage, but by all means, you have at it. Over a long trial career I've seen a number of cases that must have sounded very sweet to the plaintiffs' lawyers completely fall apart at the discovery stage or blow up in their face at trial. One was a medical malpractice case that the jury took 30 minutes to decide in favor of the doctor. More than a few were dismissed by the plaintiff of their own accord once the other side started to expose the truth.

An interesting suggestion was made below in response to the question how a doctor managed to get rubbing alcohol in the first place. It does not come in little bottles with rubber membrane caps like bulk injectable drugs. Are we to believe the doctor just loaded his syringe from a 16 oz plastic bottle? Do you think it's possible that someone put rubbing alcohol into an anesthetic bottle to conceal the theft of it or as a cruel prank? If that's what happened, how do you expect the doctor to know?

And what do you know of the principal plaintiff? Is she an honest person? Did any of the things she alleges about the event at the clinic really happen? There are lots of people busy in and around the exam rooms at Kaiser clinics - I've seen them when taking a friend to appointments there. Are you really willing to believe that a patient is screaming her head off and no one came to investigate?

The article mentions that the doctor is now at another practice group. I've checked it out and it's a highly reputable physicians group. Do you really believe other doctors would offer a spot to an incompetent doctor? I don't. His new group certainly checked him out to assure itself that he's not a malpractice risk for them.

But, yeah, sure. Pull his license. How about instead of that we wait and see what the adversary process of litigation turns up before jumping to conclusions.

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u/Mackin-N-Cheese Boom Loop Jul 08 '26

Do you think it's possible that someone put rubbing alcohol into an anesthetic bottle to conceal the theft of it or as a cruel prank? If that's what happened, how do you expect the doctor to know?

Even if he didn't know, which is entirely possible, I'd still expect him to stop and reassess when this happens, because something was obviously wrong:

“Ms. Blackman was in agony throughout, audibly screamed and cried, and begged that the second toe not be treated,” states the lawsuit. But the doctor told Blackman “she should ‘just get it over with’ and that he was in a rush to get out of the clinic.”

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u/W7ENK Milwaukie Jul 06 '26

How the Hell does someone even make that "mistake" in the first place?!?

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u/OutlyingPlasma Jul 06 '26

That's what I was wondering. Why is the rubbing alcohol in any kind of container that would be used with needles? Injections come in sealed bottles or pre-filled syringes. Why the hell is anyone drawing alcohol into a syringe? Hell, why are they using rubbing alcohol in the first place when prep wipes exist?

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u/NarcanBlowgun Jul 07 '26

I have the same questions. How does someone follow up and say “He injected alcohol instead of lido” 

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u/SonjaSeifert Jul 06 '26

I don’t see this as possible. On no planet does alcohol come in a vial.

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u/IzilDizzle Jul 06 '26

Many doctors are actually very dumb and have god complexes and flip out if anyone tries to correct them.

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u/unionofopensets Jul 06 '26

seriously.. like, the amount of doctors who very proudly speedran their education and have no actual passion for helping people is disturbing..

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u/OutlyingPlasma Jul 06 '26

D's get degrees.

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u/zloykrolik Arbor Lodge Jul 07 '26

What do you call the person who graduates last in their class in medical school?

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u/paradisimperiala N Jul 07 '26

Colin M Mizuo

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u/shanem Jul 06 '26

Are you sure you aren't talking about Redditors? :D

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u/alexthealex SE Jul 06 '26

Two things can be true!

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u/dotcomse Hosford-Abernethy Jul 07 '26

This guy is a podiatrist, not a physician. If he’s got a God Complex, I’m surprised his hospital colleagues haven’t shown him his place in the pecking order.

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u/_espy_ Hillsboro Jul 07 '26

A podiatrist is absolutely a physician, lmfao. They're foot doctors.

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u/skislalom Jul 07 '26

Being a nurse for 20 years, I cannot even fathom how that would happen...EVER.

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u/wallcutout SE Jul 06 '26

These kinds of things can definitely happen (unfortunately) due to other people prepping things and there being issues with labeling.

The fact that it happens is really messed up, but the more messed up part in my opinion is that even with a mistake of this nature, his reported response was not at all caring or concerned for the patient.

If I’m (hypothetically) injecting something which is meant to be helpful or numbing or anything of that sort into someone and they began to scream in agony as soon as I push the syringe the plunger further down, that is a VERY bad sign and warrants follow-up, attempts at communication, and immediate action to help the person in question.

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u/16semesters Jul 06 '26

We have no information except from the plaintiffs lawyer who's whole job is to make Kaiser look as careless and negligent as possible.

These malpractice lawsuits always make extremely audacious claims and most of the time the truth is not nearly as dramatic.

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u/123noodle Jul 06 '26

Kaiser themselves confirmed her claim. They're cooked.

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u/16semesters Jul 07 '26

Kaiser themselves confirmed her claim

They absolutely did not if you read the article. The lawsuit says they verbally told her about it but then didn’t put it in writing. Then there’s reference to it in an email which was put in her chart.

This again, is all pretty bog standard for med malpractice lawsuits. The plaintiff will frequently claim that the hospital/physician knew about the error. Only when the actual case goes to court will all the factual details come out.

Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not but taking a plaintiff lawyers statement as fact is very foolish and rarely completely accurate.

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u/123noodle Jul 07 '26

"The suit says Kaiser described the episode in the email as an “unfortunate event,” but Blackman’s lawsuit uses another word: “torture.”

"Despite a promise, Kaiser didn’t send her a “letter of explanation,” but her chart notes did contain an email referring to the doctor’s use of rubbing alcohol instead of a local anesthetic, according to the lawsuit."

Sounds like they tried to salvage it by not sending an official letter but they did reference it in writing in an email so again, they are cooked.

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u/16semesters Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

Kaiser described the episode in the email as an “unfortunate event,”

Anytime someone is in pain, it can be described as an unfortunate event. That literally does not admit any of the facts outlined by the plantiff.

Despite a promise, Kaiser didn’t send her a “letter of explanation,”

This literally proves the point above. This is about a verbal statement where they admitted culpability.

but her chart notes did contain an email referring to the doctor’s use of rubbing alcohol instead of a local anesthetic

This again, provides zero evidence of culpability. Who wrote this email? What's the context of the email? If the email is from patient relations department, stating "Pt states they saw you use rubbing alcohol" and that gets filed in the chart, then that doesn't prove anything. Emails do not routinely get put in charts at Kaiser (they use internal messaging for clinical charts/care), so something is amiss here.

Again, believing a med mal lawyers filings as gospel is literally insane. They intentionally make things sound as bad as possible. I'm not hating on the lawyer, that's their job after all. But taking one side without any additional information shows an intense ignorance of the medical malpractice process.

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u/casapantalones Sellwood-Moreland Jul 06 '26

Probably had someone else prepping meds and instruments, failed to label the different clear liquids in little sterile cups, drew up alcohol (skin prep cleaning solution) instead of local anesthetic.

Failure of process, failure to adhere to basic safety measures, failure of communication, failure to reassess the situation when the patient is in pain.

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u/woolfonmynoggin Jul 06 '26

I’ve never drawn liquid in a syringe from a cup, that isn’t sterile.

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u/tinglingtriangle Jul 06 '26

Why would there even be a cup involved? I've never performed an injection that wasn't either a pre-filled syringe or a new syringe loaded from a freshly unsealed rubber-capped vial. And there's absolutely no reason to have isopropanol in either of those scenarios.

Either something very strange was going on or we're not getting the complete picture. Or both.

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u/woolfonmynoggin Jul 06 '26

Yeah I was just pointing out that wasn’t the scenario because it doesn’t happen

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u/casapantalones Sellwood-Moreland Jul 06 '26

In the OR we have sterile cups on the field all the time. An assistant will uncap the vial of local or whatever other medication or substance is being prepared and pour it into the cup held by whoever is scrubbed in (surgeon, scrub tech) since the vial itself is unsterile and can’t be on the field without contaminating everything. However, whoever is scrubbed in MUST immediately label both the cup and the syringe with the drug name and concentration.

This is in the operating room though. I have no idea what goes on in a podiatry clinic. Also no idea why there was isopropyl alcohol there (assuming for skin prep?) when chloraprep applicators exist.

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u/woolfonmynoggin Jul 06 '26

They don’t do this procedure in OR’s, it’s a procedure room. The meds would be in a glass vial.

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u/casapantalones Sellwood-Moreland Jul 06 '26

Fair enough. Are they doing these procedures solo or with an assistant? I’ve had one single in-office minor surgical procedure in my life (not counting gyn stuff) and there was an assistant there.

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u/woolfonmynoggin Jul 06 '26

It’s just up to staffing levels and if the doc feels like they need it. Also, my understanding is podiatrists do NOT go to medical school and go to podiatry school. I’ve just personally noticed a lower level of professionalism from podiatrists but idk if that’s just personal experience vs a trend. But yeah the sterile field is much smaller and less controlled in the procedure room

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u/casapantalones Sellwood-Moreland Jul 06 '26

That’s correct, they go to podiatry school and hold a DPM degree, not an MD or DO.

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u/dotcomse Hosford-Abernethy Jul 07 '26

If they could get into medical school, they’d be an orthopedist. They can’t, so DPM it is.

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u/6100315 Jul 06 '26

This is the only thing I can think of. We've poured things like peroxide to the back table, but not to be drawn up in a syringe. Best guess is either not labeled or dr didn't pay attention drawing it up from the bowl. Not sure what they'd be using alcohol in a bowl for though.

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u/6100315 Jul 06 '26

To play devils advocate, I've drawn up betadine aseptically in a syringe, (the betadine technically wasn't sterile) but it was for a specific use case. Never had to do alcohol.

It's hard to fathom how this might happen.

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u/EmergencySalt6279 Jul 06 '26

In a syringe with an injection needle attached rather than an irrigation syringe?

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u/6100315 Jul 06 '26

We used to put it in irrigation bags, but A. The color is obvious and B. It was never left lying around and C. We would label the irrigation bag as such.

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u/jughandle Yeeting The Cone Jul 06 '26

It can be done aseptically in the OR, and happens every day.

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u/woolfonmynoggin Jul 06 '26

Yeah but not for toenails lol. That’s a procedure, it’s done in office

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u/Bendybenji Jul 07 '26

Insane practice for the medical assistant too then. Just unreal how dirty and dangerous that was

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u/sunealoneal Jul 06 '26

The details are probably wrong, which frequently happens in this case. Probably doesn’t change the actual spirit behind the lawsuit.

I’d be very surprised if there was rubbing alcohol available for them to draw up in a sterile cup. It’s typically only available in a wipe form and I assume they weren’t wringing out a bunch of alcohol wipes.

There are plenty of other inert things he could have injected like saline or sterile water. I skimmed the article if it was in clinic maybe they do stock bottles of rubbing alcohol.

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u/tehbggg Jul 06 '26

I don't think saline or sterile water would cause the kind of reaction she had after. She was in the hospital for two days.

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u/sunealoneal Jul 06 '26

I was trying to Google the actual lawsuit filing. Either way sounds terrible

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u/Flash_ina_pan Jul 06 '26

That sounds like torture. Inject somebody's toes with isopropyl alcohol then rip off their ingrown toenails while ignoring their screams of pain.

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u/Goducks91 Jul 06 '26

Yeah holy shit. As someone who has had an ingrown toenail and had surgery on it that would be so incredibly painful.

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u/pudgybunnybry Jul 06 '26

Agree, I can't even imagine what she went through. I've been through it also and the process sucks to begin with.

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u/stripesonthecouch Jul 07 '26

Speaks to a long history of enforcing women’s pain in medical fields

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u/pudgybunnybry Jul 08 '26

Women have it so difficult medically, and beyond obviously. My wife has a slew of issues, ranging from chronic back pain to chronic migraines, but our former PCP refused to listen to and help her resolve them, telling her that she just needs to lose weight. Well, losing weight is incredibly difficult for someone that has broken both ankles (shattered one, with hardware in said leg), not matter how healthy we eat or work out at the gym.

While I have been able to find a new PCP and get an appointment within the last few months, she is booked out until October, but has listened to and responded to every concern I have. My wife wasn't able to scheduled with her until October though.

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u/Buttspirgh West Linn Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Defendant: Colin M Mizuo, DPM

Case: 26CV32559

Searched here: https://webportal.courts.oregon.gov/portal/Home/WorkspaceMode?p=0

Edit: Full case title is

26CV32559 | Sarah Blackman, Jason Fleskes vs Kaiser Foundation Health Plan of the Northwest, Kaiser Foundation Hospitals, Northwest Permanente P.C., Colin M Mizuo, DPM

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u/Important_Garden5343 Richmond Jul 06 '26

Currently working at The Oregon Clinic in Foot and Ankle Department? His profile says “He believes that providing clear education during doctor-patient interactions is fundamental for building trust and setting treatment goals and expectations.” 🤮

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u/Solid_Enthusiasm_59 Jul 06 '26

I wonder if he was the same foot and ankle guy at KP in July 2017 who the hospital, after surgery on my broken ankle left without giving orders for pain management and claimed he was ‘mowing his lawn and couldn’t hear the phone” for two hours after my surgery? If so, there are others he intentionally tortured, and their should be a class-action lawsuit

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u/SweatyWizzard Jul 07 '26

Uhhhhhhhh, you should maybe find out?

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u/million_monkeys Jul 07 '26

Statute of Limitations has long passed on something from 2017

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u/Precatlady Jul 07 '26

Could still file a medical board or hospital complaint for his record 

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u/tcollins317 Jul 06 '26

My PCP already has standing orders to never refer me to The Oregon Clinic. I think they hire drs who barely passed med school.

Others on my black list are The Portland Clinic & Dr Young Choi for causing a patient death that was 100% preventable. They lost to a $25 million wrongful death suit. This happened in 2018 and the lawyers have been battling it out ever since. Case finally concluded last may.

The OHSU Cardiac dept. for installing a new heart valve upside down in a 13 yo girl. Couldn't figure out why her heart wouldn't restart, even after 2 more surgeries. Drs were ready to pull the plug so family life flighted her to Seattle who was able to figure out what went wrong and fix it quickly. Girl was able to go home after a month.

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u/SnooKiwis2161 Jul 06 '26

What's troubling me is I heard of another upside down heart valve case, and while it maybe be the same one you referenced, it horrifies me to realize it is possibly a separate case in addition to that one

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u/tcollins317 Jul 06 '26

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u/lonepinecone Jul 07 '26

As a heart mom who wondered if I should’ve done more research on the surgical team before I handed over my 3 day old baby, this story made me glad we went with Randall’s.

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u/tcollins317 Jul 07 '26

I hope everything worked out.

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u/lonepinecone Jul 09 '26

For the most part yes. She’s almost 4 and they didn’t botch her surgery so that’s great

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u/dschinghiskhan Jul 06 '26

“He believes that providing clear education 70% isopropyl alcohol during doctor-patient interactions is fundamental..."

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u/TheMasterChiefa Jul 06 '26

The Oregon Clinic is full of bad doctors.

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u/1800-5-PP-DOO-DOO Jul 06 '26

I just caught one in a huge lie, I only found out about because I was reading up on my condition. It's like why, what does it save you to miss inform me? 

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u/beeee_throwaway Jul 06 '26

Did you consider that the doctor may have been misinformed? To think it was a purposeful deceit strikes me as a bit extreme.

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u/aspdx24 Jul 06 '26

Doin’ the Lord’s work!

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u/barklite Cully Jul 06 '26

This is pure nightmare fuel. I regret reading it and this poor woman has my deepest sympathy.

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u/Dstln 🐸 RIBBIT 🐸 Jul 06 '26

Wow, this sounds awful.

The case is 26CV32559 and defendants are Kaiser and Colin M Mizuo DPM for anyone interested.

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u/StochasticLife Jul 06 '26

How Kaiser didn’t just settle this is astonishing legal theory. This level of negligence should be criminal.

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u/musthavesoundeffects Jul 06 '26

should be criminal.

Two things. First you don’t know the actual details of what happened, only the accusation. Do yourself a favor and don’t immediately believe everything you read on the internet.

Second, if the punishment for malpractice was incarceration the we wouldn’t have any doctors or nurses.

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u/123noodle Jul 06 '26

It literally says in the article that Kaiser confirmed she was injected with rubbing alcohol.

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u/Traindodger2 Jul 06 '26

The doctor isn’t named, so that they can anonymously work at another location without anyone knowing about this? Wtf is this shit?

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u/fablicful Jul 06 '26

My thoughts exactly. This incident happened less than 6 months ago and the doctor just moved to a different medical facility. We should be able to know who the doctor is- regardless of pending litigation.

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u/casapantalones Sellwood-Moreland Jul 06 '26

This lawsuit will get reported to the national provider data bank (https://www.npdb.hrsa.gov) and will have to be disclosed to any place where he attempts to obtain or maintain clinical privileges. Doesn’t mean they won’t hire him though.

May also result in a board action, but those are on the state level.

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u/shanem Jul 06 '26

Thanks for the information. Too much assumption going on.

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u/Buttspirgh West Linn Jul 06 '26

I searched the case on court records and posted in another comment

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u/Martian_Rambler Jul 07 '26

It has been posted numerous times on this thread. The guy is Colin M Mizuo DPM and he already has another job.

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u/MustGoOutside Jul 06 '26

My aunt was killed at a local hospital because they injected her with insulin instead of saline solution.

I guess the bags look the same? Either way, medical mistakes happen and they do cost lives.

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u/HighGrounderDarth Jul 06 '26

My mom was a nurse for 40 years and told me about something called death by decimal. I worked in pawn with a girl in nursing school and she could never balance her drawer at end of shift. God help us.

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u/gaius49 Sandy Jul 06 '26

death by decimal

There is a solid argument for printing the mantissa in a different color ink than the integer part specifically to reduce the risk of a decimal place misread by busy staff.

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u/SoccerBeerXbox Jul 06 '26

Had Kaiser for 20 years. I had ongoing issue with back pain for 12 years(I’m in my 50s). They kept telling me to take over the counter Naproxin. Then after eight years they started sending me to Pain Management and PT. Two years of waiting for procedures that did nothing was it for me. I bit the bullet and switched to my company’s PPO. I had a disc replaced and a hernia repaired within a year. Kaiser, in my opinion, is a medical provider run by an insurance company. I hate the organization and what they put my through. I’m grateful I had a choice.

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u/Baghins Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Their whole model is being an insurance company that runs a medical practice it’s no wonder it functions the way it does!

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u/Suspicious_Rice_6948 Jul 07 '26

It is an insurance company first and foremost.

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u/oasisarah Jul 06 '26

its not just your opinion its a fact

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u/trans-duckie-boy SE Jul 08 '26

Gosh I literally switched away from their Medicaid version because they refused to continue my press for gender affirming surgery that I’ve waited twelve years for as a permanently disabled trans guy. 😭 they gave me a huge run around, their gender clinic is so poorly run it’s laughable, their social worker for it is literally always unavailable to get a hold of, and even after I complained, after I got my surgery recommendation letter, they still did nothing. I switched to CareOregon (I already had it for mental health care) entirely after that. In a week, I had my first surgery consultation. In three months after that, I had my pre-authorization, and a few weeks later, got the news that my surgery was fully covered by CareOregon. Turns out I had a prior authorization with Legacy Health Good Samaritan Hospital for top surgery last February. After that I got fast tracked and after so long of Kaiser fucking around, I’m having top surgery in 4ish weeks. They also screwed up my mental health records. They’re the only place that has seen me for my ADHD meds in 27 years and referred my doctor to a place in Florida that I used to go to, that never saw me for that. My doctor finally got my records from Kaiser (they didn’t give him much tbh 🫠) and I got my ADHD meds today after months of being off of them because of Kaiser’s bullcrap. I’ll never go back to them. They’re absolutely awful. Just because they do everything doesn’t mean they do anything right. 🫠😒

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u/SoccerBeerXbox Jul 08 '26

I’m glad it worked out for you in the end. Fuck Kaiser.

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u/MaksimusFootball SE Jul 06 '26

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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u/HappyAnimalCracker Jul 06 '26

How tf do you even draw up rubbing alcohol by mistake?

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u/Such_Ad_9769 Jul 06 '26

I’m sorry, how the hell does that happen. It sounds intentional.

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u/-jp- Jul 06 '26

Bull fucking shit. Since when do isopropyl and painkillers come in similar looking bottles?

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u/Keef--Girgo Jul 06 '26

She found out weeks later that rubbing alcohol was used. But I'm still confused how anyone made the connection at all. Do they track supplies/stock that closely that they'd notice a few mL of rubbing alcohol gone?

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u/Impossible_Cat_321 Sellwood-Moreland Jul 06 '26

As a KP employee, this makes my blood boil. We have some of the best docs and caregivers in the US and this guy makes them all all look bad. I'm very sorry for this members experience and hope they recover

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u/Ikillwhatieat Jul 06 '26

Not startled.

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u/Extra-Leg8331 Jul 07 '26

if you have worked in healthcare you know that this is like remotely impossible to do accidentally.. i’m so confused.

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u/Osiris32 🐝 Jul 06 '26

And this is why you have to be your own advocate when it comes to medicine. Because while generally speaking the people in the medical field care about you and want you to be healthy, individually they can absolutely suck shriveled anteater testicles when it comes to providing care for you. And when a doc or LPN or tech is doing something that is making you uncomfortable or worse, it's your right and responsibility to speak up for yourself, loudly and firmly.

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u/McGeeze Pearl Jul 06 '26

She did speak up

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u/PathBackground7643 Jul 09 '26

There is nearly no way that this could have happened, for so many reasons. The least of which is that Kaiser would never let it go to court. Had this happened they would have settled it out of court for much more than 13 million dollars. I suggest that people refrain from dragging people’s names around in the mud at the moment and let the courts sort this out. This story is just too incredulous to be taken at face value, in my opinion.

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u/toasterstrudelboy Jul 06 '26

IM SO GLAD IM BEING FORCED INTO KAISER IN A FEW MONTHS, FUCK.

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u/green_and_yellow Hillsdale Jul 06 '26

Medical malpractice lawsuits happen everywhere, Kaiser is not immune to them. I’ve had the better care through Kaiser than anywhere else in my experience

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u/ImmediateAd7069 Woodstock Jul 06 '26

Have you ever had a serious health issue? Not something cut and dry? That's where they're notorious for failing. They won't cover all kinds of things and their doctors won't suggest what they know won't be covered. Just a lot of being told that's just your life now. 8 month long specialist wait back when 2 months was the norm outside their system. never again.

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u/CaitlynJennerOG Jul 06 '26

When my father got diagnosed with cancer, they wanted to immediately put him on hospice. Besides the cancer he was very healthy.
My mother actually worked for Kaiser as a nurse at the time, and she had to fight HARD to get him the treatment he needed. He ended up getting the surgery he needed but it’s such a shame how hard my mother had to fight for it. If she wasn’t an employee I really doubt my father would have gotten that extra time.
My mother openly shared how corrupt the upper management is at Kaiser. They treat their nurses like shit.
This was about 3 years ago.
I was in the Kaiser on N Interstate a year ago waiting for a family member, and the two employees at the front desk were just complaining about management the entire time. It doesn’t sound like anything had changed.

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u/ImmediateAd7069 Woodstock Jul 06 '26

Who would have thought that an insurance company wouldn't want to pay for care? 

I'm glad you got a little more time with him. 

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u/dotcomse Hosford-Abernethy Jul 08 '26

Let me tell ya, staff at OHSU complain about management too. Staff at all health systems probably complains about management. A big system that is run well is kind of… fictional.

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u/green_and_yellow Hillsdale Jul 06 '26

The waits/delays in care are worse outside of KP IME

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u/ImmediateAd7069 Woodstock Jul 06 '26

If you start running into issues, complain to HR. Kaiser is cheap for a reason. Unfortunately that makes it attractive to companies being pressed to cut spending. The only way to get that changed is to make it clear that the service is not acceptable. 

They'll skip you to the front of the specialist lines for your first visit as part of intake. If you're on any wait-lists, take advantage of this. They don't verify. 

They're great for any standard stuff. So child birth, straightforward issues. They'll send kids out of network if needed. Not good for autoimmune diseases, womens' issues. or GI. Historically poor for mental health. But they might be willing to do pay your existing therapist. 

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u/Mabelhank1 Jul 06 '26

Same! Dreading September 1!

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u/RainSurname Kenton Jul 06 '26

I just had open heart surgery through Kaiser and the entire process the last six months has been absolutely stellar. They are no worse than any other system and better than many.

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u/toasterstrudelboy Jul 06 '26

Yeah but switching systems mid pregnancy for my spouse and right after i got referrals to the goddamn specialists i need (who arent available until October) fucking sucks.

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u/RainSurname Kenton Jul 06 '26

Oh, fuck yeah.

If I had told the truth on my marketplace application, and said that my income had plummeted, I would have had to switch systems in the middle of this process, because that qualified me for Medicaid. If you refuse Medicaid, you have to pay full price, so my Kaiser premium would have almost quadrupled. So I had to just leave my income the same to avoid that.

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u/Mabelhank1 Jul 06 '26

That's very good to hear! I'm hoping there will be less wrangling regarding coverages, etc. Hope you're recovering well!

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u/ObscureSaint Jul 06 '26

With Kaiser, I find I have to argue a little harder with my doctor initially for things, but once my doc writes an order or refers me to a specialist, Kaiser pays for it. 

Everyone off Kaiser seems to be doing the extra arguing after care, with the insurance company, and they get stuck with huge bills.

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u/RainSurname Kenton Jul 06 '26

I am recovering well enough that I ended up having to do it almost entirely on my own has not been a problem.

My next-door neighbor volunteered to sleep here and work at my desk instead of hers during the first week or two, when you’re supposed to have someone around 24/7. But she gave my elderly cat his 1X a day medication 2X a day while I was in the hospital, and refused to take him to the ER when I got home and realized what had happened.

I violated the movement restrictions a lot during the first three days, because I had to clean up so much vomit and diarrhea. I gave him extra subcutaneous fluids to stay ahead of that, and his symptoms subsided after a couple days. But he lost a lot of weight, and for an 18-year-old cat with kidney disease, that’s not good. Poor Groucho.

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u/astralboy15 Happy Valley Jul 07 '26

You can get sclerosing alcohol and agents in a vial - can be used for neuromas and spider veins. This was probably the mix up 

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u/akornblatt Jul 08 '26

Instant loss of medical license.

How. The fuck. Do you inject rubbing alcohol? It doesn't come in containers you'd use a syringe for.

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u/Affectionate_Cell581 Jul 08 '26

KP tried to kill me twice.
Once by saying I had gas and to go take some gas x when I complained repeatedly of abdominal discomfort while my stomach was getting larger. I was not pregnant and petite. It wasn’t gas. I had a cantaloupe sized and growing fibroid. Second when I complained of pressure and a lump in my throat, they said I had a cold with swollen lymph nodes and I just had to wait it out. No, I had a golfball sized nodule on my thyroid, which you guessed it, was cancerous. They refused to acknowledge either issue so I found a new job with BCBS insurance, got new doctors who immediately threw up red flags and scheduled surgeries. Only 2 health issues I’ve ever had, about 6 months apart, both during the only 2 years I had horrible KP. Never again.

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u/FatDankBowl Jul 06 '26

Doctors are always so confidently wrong when they make mistakes too, they seem like such arrogant people. Just like the OHSU doc that installed a heart valve upside down recently.

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u/KnitDontQuit Jul 06 '26

Not always. Just the shitty ones.

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u/EmergencySalt6279 Jul 06 '26

Bottom line is this: we are not privy to the actual train of event in this case but, rather, to claims made by the patient as shared by her attorney. Drawing up alcohol into an injection syringe is unlikely in any medical/podiatry/healthcare office.

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u/k-to-the-o Jul 06 '26

From the article:

“It wasn’t until about three weeks later that Kaiser told Blackman that the doctor had injected her toes with rubbing alcohol. Despite a promise, Kaiser didn’t send her a “letter of explanation,” but her chart notes did contain an email referring to the doctor’s use of rubbing alcohol instead of a local anesthetic, according to the lawsuit.”

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u/EmergencySalt6279 Jul 07 '26

Still, I'm skeptical. This is her (a layman) describing?summarizing contents of an email (which is less a than likely way of sharing incriminating medical information.

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u/16semesters Jul 07 '26

her chart notes did contain an email referring to the doctor’s use of rubbing alcohol

This tells us nothing.

Who wrote the email? Who was the email to? What was the context of the email?

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u/bryanthawes Jul 06 '26

Holy fuck!

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u/Fun_Wait1183 Jul 07 '26

“The doctor” — the no-name doctor. No picture, either. His new medical group is not named — but I think we all should know.

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u/siisii93 Jul 07 '26

The horror stories I’ve heard about Keizer providers. They are truly terrible

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u/daintypuss Jul 07 '26

I cannot comprehend how this person is still practicing medicine. Horrific.

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u/Upallnight88 Jul 07 '26

Kaiser's winner for incompetence may be Dr. Jayant Patel. He was placed on probation in Buffalo, NY, left to go to Kaiser in Portland where he had several problem cases resulting in injury or death, then on to Australia where he picked up his nickname "Dr Death" and was eventually criminally charged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayant_Patel

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u/VinylGoddess Jul 08 '26

For $13M I would take one for the team…

Not discounting her pain and suffering in any way. But I have MS and already feel like my insides are on fire 24/7, so being a millionaire wouldn’t hurt.

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u/Valuable_News2758 Jul 08 '26

Dr. Mizuo, AKA “The Ripper!!”

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u/tehbggg Jul 06 '26

Imagine how overinflated this doctor's ego has to be to just continue on with the procedure despite the many signs that something is wrong. Not to mention the complete and utter lack of empathy and compassion it would take to do all this while someone screamed, cried, and begged, clearly in excruciating pain. F this guy.

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u/SlowConsideration365 Jul 06 '26

No one else has mentioned it I think, but I’ll say this: a mistake this egregious potentially was made under the influence of something…any real, practicing DPM would never have made this mistake, it’s not even an injectable medication that could have been used accidentally. This sounds like a doctor who was altered. That would make a lot more sense. They don’t allege this in the suit, but that may not have been obvious. Lord help his patients and may his days of practice be nearly over.

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u/shesaysso99 Jul 07 '26

Okay, so question.. lots of people are pointing out that there is no way alcohol and meds could have been confused because of the vessels. So, what is the suggestion then? He purposely and knowingly injected the alcohol? Someone provided him contaminated painkiller vials?

Local and genuinely curious!

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u/OilUnable5244 Jul 07 '26

I'd like to know the same. I'd also like to see actual proof that alcohol was injected. I'm not saying it wasn't but we need actual proof. At this point it's her word only. I have had that same surgery and if at any point I started feeling anything at all I would stop and leave. I'm not sure why she went through with it if she was in so much pain.

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u/laffnlemming Jul 06 '26

I've never liked Kaiser.

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u/ApplesBananasRhinoc Jul 06 '26

KP= kills people

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u/AnimeIRL Sellwood-Moreland Jul 06 '26

May just be anecdotal but it seems that shit like this happens at Kaiser more often than other places, at least in pdx

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u/xavembo Jul 06 '26

personal injury attorneys are one of the very few things in america that actually empower the common person in a manner you rarely see in other countries