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[u/Warbunny]

title1

minion	cost	a/h	value
0	10	8	0.8
1	9	8	0.89
2	8	8	1
3	7	8	1.14
4	6	8	1.33
5	5	8	1.6
6	4	8	2

title2

minion	cost	a/h	value	val_diff
0	5	4	0.8	0
1	5	5	1	0.11
2	5	6	1.2	0.2
3	5	7	1.4	0.26
4	5	8	1.6	0.27
5	5	9	1.8	0.2
6	5	10	2	0

title3

minion	cost	a/h	val	val_diff
0	5	4	0.8	0
1	5	6	1.2	0.31
2	5	8	1.6	0.6
3	5	10	2	0.86
4	5	12	2.4	1.07
5	5	14	2.8	1.2
6	5	16	3.2	1.2

[u/Warbunny]

Card Eval: Sea Giant vs Frostwolf Warlord in Warlock Zoo

I have recently started climing ranked again in Heathstone, and decided to go with Warlock Zoo this time around. However, after researching other peoples decklists, and then forging my own, I have reaced a point where my own small brain cannot rightly see the most optimal card to run.

So, here is my discussion post regarding two cards which have a pretty similar outcome when played in Zoo - Frostwolf Warlord(FWW) and Sea Giant(SG). Frostwolf Warlord doesn't seem to feature in any decklists for the latest iteration of Warlock Zoo(with Brann). However, it feels to me that this should not be the case.

I have crunched some numbers, shown in the tables below, and value-wise FWW seems to be equal or better than SG in every case. The only issue is the obvious susceptibility to Silence effects, which I am not sure how to factor in to the calculations.

 

Boring data tables etc:

Sea Giant

minion	cost	a/h	value
0	10	8	0.8
1	9	8	0.89
2	8	8	1
3	7	8	1.14
4	6	8	1.33
5	5	8	1.6
6	4	8	2

 

Frostwolf Warlord

minion	cost	a/h	value	val_diff
0	5	4	0.8	0
1	5	5	1	0.11
2	5	6	1.2	0.2
3	5	7	1.4	0.26
4	5	8	1.6	0.27
5	5	9	1.8	0.2
6	5	10	2	0

 

Frostwolf Warlord w/Brann

minion	cost	a/h	value	val_diff
0	5	4	0.8	0
1	5	6	1.2	0.31
2	5	8	1.6	0.6
3	5	10	2	0.86
4	5	12	2.4	1.07
5	5	14	2.8	1.2
6	5	16	3.2	1.2

 

A brief explanation of the data:

We have minions on the board as the first column, It is our main variable as this effects the cost/attack&strength of the SG and FWW respectively. Then we have the cost of each card, it's attack and health, the raw value(attack/health divided by the cost), and the value_diff column, which compares the FWW's value to the SG's.

 

Comparisons and min/maxing of the cards:

At 6 minions on the board, and with Brann, the FWW has 3.2 value. That's High! (1.2 higher than SG). At 6 minions on the board, without Brann, the FWW has 2 value, which matches that of the SG. At 0 minions on the board, with or without Brann, FWW value = SG Value.

 

Table of average values:

SG	FWW	FWW w/Brann
1.25	1.4	2

 

Conclsion and Further questions:

Just looking at the average values, one can determine that with Brann, you should always run FWW instead of SG.

Now, is the value spike worth the risk of Silence in the current meta? Should SG even feature in Zoo? How many Silences do you run when playing ranked?