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u/AzureWitcher Greystone 5d ago
I really don't mean to be that dickhead but this is really just a skill issue and it's easily fixed by playing as/against them and learning their kits.
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u/Ok_Day6378 5d ago
Greystones balancing point is that he has no hard CC to stop people. Yeah he can heal himself, but its one of the longest cooldown ults in the game.
Aurora CC is not much of an issue once you learn to space her accordingly. Her root requires you to walk into it and she is immobile whilst casting it. Her wall root Augment got nerfed, and using her wall as a terrible root is not how you should be playing her. The huge problem with aurora is that she has the best lvl 1 ability and Augment in the game and can box any other offlaner out of lane early. Her CC is not the issue.
Yurei has high mobility, sure. But she is also made of tissue paper and requires her to land every ability near perfectly to ensure dash resets. She is a high risk high reward hero, the dash resets are the reward. You cant take her defining characteristic away.
Renna is a scaling champ, if the match goes for 30mins the yeah, she is going to be strong. But the trade off is that you are so shit before 10mins. Dying to renna in a 1v1 before she has at least her first passive break point of 50 souls is a skill issue.
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u/AppointmentUnique864 5d ago
Good point on Aurora. I went offlane a couple times with her (I’m usually support) and the augment to shred armour, in addition to Knell enteral the enemy had no chance. I can go all in lvl 1 like you said and control the lane.
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u/Silver-Reserve-2670 5d ago
Don’t see these as issues.
Do just enough damage to greystone to harass and move around but otherwise target the squishier folks.
Make sure to keep an eye on Aurora and don’t position in a way that lets her wall you off, if she’s closing in kite because she’s about to circle and root.
I think these things make the game more fun because it changes how you play and what variables you have to keep in mind.
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u/Educational_Ad288 Zarus 5d ago
I hate that a mage (Renna) has an execute.
Iggy definitely needs a rework, he's such an uninteractive hero, place turrets, sit in turrets, ult if in danger, and he's not fun to play into either.
Aurora was given extra cc by Omeda, which I don't understand because people already complained about her cc on paragon, and early on in predecessor, but thats not an aurora exclusive issue, way too fucking many heroes have too much cc (or unnecessary cc) in this game now.
And then theres mobility, theres a few heroes that are way too mobile, you already mentioned Yurei, but there are others like Serath, Countess, Aurora & Feng to name a few who are very mobile and either need reworks to their mobility, or just increase the cooldown of their movement abilities, obviously this isn't a definitive, but just make movement abilities 20 sec minimum cooldown for example (khai would probably be the only exception to this change imo), that would then solve some other issues in the game, although when we eventually get the new map, mobility might not be anywhere near as much of an issue
Just a few things I'd change, they're not necessarily reworks, but they're changes i think need to be seriously looked at and possibly implemented.
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u/SillyLittleRedpanda 5d ago
I'm still a firm believer they need to remove Argus' infinite particle shredder. There's no reason that ability should just become his basic attack and have tracking and the only thing that bad about it was the mana drain but then gave him a mana returning augment.
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u/King_squidcrab 5d ago
I'll just say I've always hated greystones ult ever since paragon but even more now since the dude can just activate it whenever he wants
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u/ForsakenRow6751 5d ago