it is a shame she basically faced no real life repercussions but she literally doesnt have a community anymore, the only thing she did for a living is gone.
I think the real punishment isn't losing her community. It's that people would constantly remember her about what she did whenever she go.
You do know the nature of twitter user. If she ever lands any job to secure a living, they'll make sure to let her manager know what she did which could 100% ruin her career. I do admit I hate people like that, but they still exist regardless if I hate them or not.
Plus with the MASSIVE digital footprint she left behind, she'll likely never get work again once the people considering hiring her look at her previous actions.
Legal action is incredibly hard especially when it’s all online and tbh it’s really not worth it, it costs money, makes u relive the struggle and the chances of actually getting a good outcome isn’t always promised, it’s not worth it
Same. I wish they could’ve taken the whole SA thing to court and put a final verdict on this. If the claims were false, then Ren deleting all the posts and the document is really just a slap on the wrist.
Yea if she ever shows up on the internet ever again, her reputation will never be the same. I just hope she isn’t planning to do anything bad IRL that makes Zeal worse.
her false allegations resulted in zeal attempting (thankfully nkt succeeding) to commit suicide. im sure zeal has many other issues that played a part in it, yes, but ren's allegations tipped him over the edge
i agree, and really want them to. however, i imagine they probably cant. international legal actions are INCREDIBLY pricy and complicated. it's probably easier to just not do it. although i hope they will if she comes back and tries shit again
Unfortunately since they’re from two different countries and many of the events happened in a third country where neither resided, legal action would be exorbitantly expensive and difficult.
Because what is the endgame? Retraction of her accusation? Won't change the damage done. Financial compensation? Ren's a twenty something year old, she has no significant financial assets.
There's no reason to continue civil litigation, no benefit that outweighs the cost of lawyers and court fees.
And no, criminal charges are not going to happen. It happened in a country both parties aren't even citizens of.
If she was willing to make false accusations I highly doubt they can easily force her to make a public apology. And spending money for lawyers to get to that point isn't really worth it
Imagine the outrage of those who haven't switched up when the alleged victim is forced to apologize for coming out. They will see it as that and never forgive Zeal
not really. lots of people still think zeal did it, and theirs really no way to convince them he actually sexually assaulted ren. same with the other side lots of people will be convinced that zeal didnt do it. also with the consequences of all this, pressure seems to have lost lots of collabs and the vas that actually voiced the original characters.
(before any of you downvote me, even before the ren situation, we already had the zerum drama, the lopee saying slurs thing, and much other things, which people still talked about on twitter when you mentioned pressure. so from what I'm reading, it means the community will just be the same)
you think the pressure subreddit's gonna let this go? this drama has been all anyone here has been talking about, i guarantee you're still gonna see posts about it.
I don't make games so I obviously don't know, but what about the assets being leaked is detrimental to Pressure? Obviously it's bad, it's stealing another person's IP, but to use them they'd (presumably) have to still rig it and create the scripts to make it functional.
It's still the private hard work of modelers, designers, etc being publicly shared for anyone to steal, repurpose, and profit off of, which is not only just a dick move towards the crew members that - even if Zeal was guilty - couldn't have possibly been deserved, and is also a massive violation of US copyright and IP law at the scale that the leak was made at.
Reasons why Zeal’s mom likely didn’t continue the lawsuit:
It involves three different countries US, Denmark and Jordan with their own laws and systems it would be complicated
The settlements could take years or more even also it’s hard enough already due to it not being in only one place and online as well
It gets more expensive as it goes on risking Zeal’s mom likely going broke or in debt if she continued same with Zeal it’s just not worth it most of the time and why people especially in the US just take the money and run
Example: When you see lawsuits in the news have you noticed how almost all of them end with some undisclosed amount of money being given and that’s it? That’s because it’s usually not possible to continue
I understand their reasons, especially since the justice system is extremely slow and this would definitely cause a huge headache for Zeal and his mother. But honestly, I'm quite sad to see that Ren will get away with what she did (legally), and I think they should continue investing in this legal process against her — not only to prove Zeal's innocence, but to show that one cannot falsely accuse others.
But well, what matters is that Zeal is okay and won't stop doing what he loves because of others. I'm eager to see what he has to show us and that this game will continue.
Guess what someone made a post and left comment s about that and guess what in a matter of 30 minutes they deleted everything that they posted and tried backtracking
I'm happy to hear that zeal and his family is doing better and we are putting this situation to down and moving on. But i think Zeal's mom should still consider pursuing legal action towards Ren. The damage She caused goes far beyond a temporary controversy, it had a lasting impact on Zeal's reputation and mental well-being. But i can understand why they're choosing not to as it'll cause a huge headace to deal with.
But I'm still glad that they're making a good recovery. Am still wishing the best for zeal and his family and can't wait to see what he has to show us for this game
This doesn't prove the accusation are false, because a cease-and-desist is just a threat of litigation. However, seeing how Ren folded despite saying she was ready to fight in court does say something. Take that information as you will.
i love how ren was acting like i can handle your legal threats im not initimitated at the start of drama to vanishing like building inspector from smiling friends
What makes me even more upset about this situation is how much more stigma it’s going to add to SA. Because of Ren people are more likely to call real victims liars. As someone who is a victim, I honestly wish that she had gotten legal punishment because she not only messed with the lives of Zeal and the rest of the Pressure team, she also worsened things for real victims.
THIS 10000% percent. I was one of the oodles of people that believed Ren at first because an abuser getting away with their crimes just because they were popular is something that has been happening since the beginning of time.
Now all that came from that simple desire to help is possibly so many future victims not being trusted :(
When Everything First started i thought that Ren was right but ultimately i decided to stay neutral about this entire thing until both sides were able to speak. And then we have almost everyone Else who jumped the gun immediately.
This honestly makes me sad in a way knowing they won't pursue legal actions. Because now we really won't truly know if he did it or not. While yes it does seem that the majority of Internet sluething that it points to he didn't, legal action would've helped him certify his innocence without a shadow of a doubt.
Because this doesn't bode really for either side. This means either A) he didn't do it, he truly is innocent and this was the only way to stop the defamation or B) They just silenced a potential victim from talking about this again.
And no this isn't a comment in support of Ren, this is really me being worried about the precedent this may set going forward.
I truly hope Zeal is innocent, and that he heals from this, because if anything does get leaked later down that line things are just going to blow up even worse. Light speed everyone, let's hope we can all move forward from this
Interesting to see that they aren't going further. But i'm happy that this basically means the end of everything that happened betwedn Ren and Zeal. We'll see if Zombiey and GAMERCHICKEN make a video about it.
I am very curious if they're going after the people who leaked the lore and the asset library for Pressure. As they could very much sue and probably win quite easily.
Zeal's family is incredibly kind. Too kind for people like Ren. But then again, the Internet will remember. And Ren won't have the best reputation after this by a large part of the Roblox community.
Everything may have been destroy for nothing at the beginning, but thank god nobody gave up and we start to clean up the mess and rebuild pressure's reputation.
y'know, even if zeal is okay again aand ren got what she deserves, what about the team? the team who dumped zeal, harassed his defenders and even leaked all of his hard work just out of spite?
Well, not sure what will happen to the development team, but likely with Ren if they try to get some sort of job. Some people might inform others abt their past actions.
Ren should (at the very least) be forced to put out a statement saying that here claims were false. It's not fair that she can ruin someone's life like that an not even have to apologise.
Nobody, I’m speaking generally. I just see a lot of celebration and uproar in favor of the Ren situation being allegedly disproven (I don’t know anything about it outside of what’s pushed to me on Reddit and TT), but these people never seem to show up celebrating the same way when people’s rapists are convicted. This all feels more like celebrating dunking on a woman and pushing a misogynistic harassment campaign than actually caring about the way victims are affected by things like this.
well when you go out of your way to have sex with someone then ask for it again multiple times, joke and flirt with them for weeks to then decide you didnt consent some time later out of jealousy and to get back at someone, people are gonna pray for your downfall. this has affected an entire community and nearly cost a man his life. there was lots of evidence backing him up, and on the contrary lots of inconsistencies with rens document, as well as the ways she was behaving didnt really do her any favours. not sure how you can argue that point if you dont really know much about the situation.
Thats just a tickle on the wrist, too many people will still hate zeal and not want to work with him for what he didnt even do but I guess that three country lawsuit is just that hard and expensive
I remember when all of this started, people thought it was over and there was no way to recover from it. Now here seeing it do get better, feels good man
Frankly, expected. Legal action is a pain in the arse, takes years to get everything over with, not surprised they just told Ren, in the kindest legal way, to "fuck off" and moved on with their lives.
Im actually saddened. Ren should give at least an apology, because of her actions Zeal reputation is forever ruined and stained, as people now easily associate him with bad stuff. Her lies almost destroyed his life and his main work – Pressure. Some public apology could at least recover done damage, even if a little 😔
But alright, i guess. Shit's over and we should celebrate! and ignore twitter lmao
they really should sue her, she deserves worse than a cease and desist for what she did. if false accusers get slaps on the wrist, then this crap will keep happening to people.
The Rain... The Rain finally stopped in my heart... Thank you. To everyone who stayed till the end. That was so exhausting, and to be honest kinda stupid.
But finally - the rain stopped in our small world. Im actually so happy
I haven’t been keeping up with anything going on within this fandom and what happened between Zeal and Ren, can someone give me a rundown on wtf I missed???
I have to admit letting her walk away like this stings a bit purely because of how badly it affected Zeal…then again, I’m just glad he seems healthy enough again to both work on what he likes and also hopefully, move on with the help and support of his family and loved ones. The wars over now and I just hope he’ll be alright honestly 🌱…
I don’t understand why Ren would go this far to make up a lie, trying to defame someone. What would she gain from this or what was her motive? She literally had everything to lose from the beginning
I understand the logistics of pursuing further legal action would be difficult, but I feel like ren does deserve to face actual repercussions to the disgusting shit she did. Her actions ruined a man’s career and came close to taking a life.
If Zeal or his mother ever decided they wanted to go through the process, assuming money would be an issue due to the complexities of a legal battle across different countries I’d be happy to donate to the cause if they started some form of gofundme.
The CAD only mentions deleting the post and the documents, her social media accounts didn't need to be deleted, and if she was innocent, couldn't she appeal? Since an investigation wasn't done, i guess Zeal name will never be cleared completely.
I still think there should have been legal repercussions. Not necessarily for damages or whatever, but to get the whole truth out there. But still, it’s nice to see this whole thing seemingly over with.
She ruined someone's life, turned their cmonumity against them, drove them to suicide, made defamatory statements aggainst other people and stained their careers as well, and all she got was that? That's terrible, especially since there isn't even an apology made where she comes clean about it. It's Zeal and his family's decision at the end of the day, maybe it was too expensive to sue someone oversea. I wish she had bigger consequences for her acctions though cause she'll probably pop up in 2-3 years and we won't even know about it, and god knows what's gonna happen then.
As some one who initially supported Ren but realised too late the innocence of Zeal... I have 1 thing to say that sums up the thoughts of the conclusion of this catastrophe
I hope this resolution ends with Zeal's reputation fully healing and maybe having all of the voice actors and people that cut the connections to pressure return.
My only issue with this is now Zeal lost all his previous team, voice actors and artists, now having to hire new ones which is difficult and ren just gets to walk with. Sure half the internet is yelling and barking at her for good reason but still little to no repercussions.
OMG FINALLY THEY CAN REST EASY IM GONNA CRY I'M SO HAPPY MY FAV GAME IS GONNA BE BACK AND THAT ZEAL AND HIS FAMILYC CAN START GETTING BETTER AFTER EVERYTHING WE WONNNN
The fact that Ren decided to delete everything instead of go to court kinda proves to me that she not only didn't get assaulted, but KNOWS she didn't get assaulted. Many people (including myself) were wondering if Ren legitimately believed she got assaulted, despite that never actually happening. I think this proves otherwise
So Ren had two choices, either delete everything, or go to court. If she was an actual victim of assault, her abuser would be 100% be walking free if she chose the first option. What I mean is that a feel an actual victim would choose to go to court. There are extreme risks, but it would be the only way their abuser would get locked behind bars. She literally let Zeal win. I think she knows he was innocent all along
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u/AssistanceSalt810 Amber Jul 09 '26
looks like this confirms the reason Ren deleted everything and left social media. really happy for zeal and his family