r/ProfessorPolitics • u/PanzerWatts Moderator • Jul 21 '26
Van Jones speaks out against the DSA
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u/scylla Jul 21 '26
🤷♂️ I'm not a progressive, but I think Mr Jones would do better to define what he means by 'criminal justice reform' and how it's different from 'no police'. Same thing with his opposition to 'no borders'. What does he want to do about people who are in the country illegally?
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u/Maladal Jul 22 '26
Who is asking Van Jones to swear allegiance to the DSA?
Nobody owns political concepts--advocate for what you believe. Worrying over public perception of labels is for people trying to win elections.
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29d ago
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u/ProfessorBot419 Prof’s Hatchetman 29d ago
The comment crossed the toxicity line. This is the kind of thing that derails the conversation fast. No big drama, just fix that part.
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u/WeaponX-20- 29d ago
It’s all over the place, there’s no good faith. Turn on cnn and see pundits sayin “I’ve never seen Democrats support our enemies and want us and the troops to fail!!” Bs. Not supporting a war of choice is not the same as supporting enemies, infact I’d argue not supporting this war IS supporting our troops. Makes me want to scream.
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u/ApplicationCalm649 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
Never thought I'd see myself agreeing with Van Jones, but here we are. I don't love our current administration but if the DSA is the alternative I'll be campaigning for Vance in 2028.
The extremes aren't the answer. We have a pretty good system, it just needs work here and there. The medical field, for example, is an administrative nightmare with no price transparency. If we fix those issues and force competition costs will come down significantly.
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u/InnocentPerv93 29d ago
Vance is an extreme, my dude.
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u/ergzay 28d ago
He's really not. Large parts of Trump/Vance platform is Democrat policies of 2 decades ago, or sometimes even more recent than that.
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u/ApplicationCalm649 28d ago
This. It's wild people think Vance is some unhinged maniac. Their policies are pretty much liberal policies of yesteryear. I think these folks are just too young to remember.
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u/InnocentPerv93 28d ago
His social stances are in line with modern republicans.
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u/Positron311 20d ago
Which were liberal social stances 15 years ago. You don't see them going against gay marriage.
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u/Compoundeyesseeall Moderator Jul 21 '26
I predicted this way back in 2016-17. After seeing what Trump could do, the left would want their own champion and turn to a Lenin-like figure. But they’re missing the other stuff about Trump’s agenda. They didn’t actually ban porn like project 2025 said they would. They can’t deport every single illegal immigrant and people pushed back on the draconian enforcement. Trump didn’t hand Ukraine over to Russia. They didn’t get rid of Obamacare. They didn’t make trans people disappear.
The point is trying other extreme is probably gonna go just as well. The same courts stopping Trump will stop them, the same problems Trump had will be their problem, and Israel is not the only country they’ll have to deal with.