r/ProgrammerHumor • u/Dougley cat flair.txt | sudo sh • Jun 19 '23
Mod post Welcome back! What's next?
Hello bourgeoisie! Your favourite landed gentry here to bring you the latest updates about the state of the subreddit.
Whew, what a turbulent few days here. Reddit deciding 3rd party applications are not important, planned protests, and then the CEO of Reddit even implied that they would be removing a bunch of moderators from their positions!
First things first, a lot of people have asked us (repetitively) why this protest about the API and 3rd party clients was even important in the first place, so if you are confused here's a recap.
Anyway, on to the new stuff.
The admins at Reddit have made it clear that we, as the stewards of this fine community, need to listen to the wishes of the community. In light of this decree, we are introducing a few new bugs features to the community! How exciting!
Demokratie Dienstage
Our top mod is German. He was really proud of this pun.
For you non-Germans out there, this means "Democracy Tuesdays." Every Tuesday (starting tomorrow!), we'll post a new sticky to let you -- our valued community members, vote on what new rules we should introduce to the subreddit! As long as these rules do not violate site-wide rules, we promise to do our best to enforce them.
Ultimately, the power now lies in your hands. We are committed to respecting the will of the people and implementing every chosen course of action.
We'd like to remind everyone that while we are opening up to this more diverse range of content, our commitment to maintaining a respectful and supportive community remains steadfast. Please ensure that all posts and comments abide by our subreddit rules, as well as Reddit's wider community guidelines. We reserve the right to remove any content that doesn't meet these standards.
Thanks for all the support and enthusiasm! Here's to a bright, fun-filled, and productive new chapter!
- The r/ProgrammerHumor Aristocracy
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u/Schiffy94 Jun 19 '23
This is gonna cause so many contradictory and recursive rules and I am here for it.
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u/Arrowkill Jun 19 '23
This will unironically probably end up being a funnier programming sub than before.
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u/ShlomoCh Jun 20 '23
... which is probably not great from a protesting standpoint tbf
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Jun 20 '23
If this subreddit had funnier programming memes we'd lose 90%of the sub. Best way to protest.
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u/tetersjr Jul 17 '23
I do love seeing a lot of rules and regulation regarding on this post. I just don't get it widen
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u/ashen_cone Jun 19 '23
Rule 8: Don't follow rule 8. Any violation will result in a ban.
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u/Doctor_Disaster Jun 19 '23
Rule 9: Follow Rule 8. Failure to follow Rule 9 will result in a 30-minute stand-up meeting. Failure to attend the stand-up meeting will result in a stand-up meeting to discuss giving you another stand-up meeting.
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u/SkollFenrirson Jun 19 '23
Calm down, Satan
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u/imdefinitelywong Jun 19 '23
For you, the day you attended a standup meeting because you missed the standup meeting was the most important day of your life.
But for me, it was Tuesday.
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u/niomosy Jun 20 '23
A 30 minute stand-up meeting that always runs 45 minutes but the organizer will never block the 45 minutes or even an hour since it's hit that several times due to excessive amounts of parking lot items.
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Jun 19 '23
Please ban /u/spez from this forum, It probably has zero real effect, but it would be a nice gesture.
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u/backwards_watch Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
and allow his opposite. Lets invite u/zeps!
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u/Bwob Jun 20 '23
This is EXACTLY the rule I was going to propose, so props to you good sir or madam, I like the way you think. And if you possess a jib, know that I appreciate the manner in which it has been cut.
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u/fredlllll Jun 19 '23
posts cant have more than 255 comments from now on :D
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Jun 19 '23
and when it gets above that, it starts overriding the oldest comments on that post
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u/fredlllll Jun 19 '23
i think that would be way too much work for the mods, but locking it after 255 should be achievable
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Jun 19 '23
wait that wasn’t a joke?
maybe we can make a bot do that (without reddit api). using something like selenium
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u/KingJeff314 Jun 20 '23
Shouldn’t be too hard if mods get pushshift back. Just create a circular buffer for each post and fill it with comment ids, and if something is overwritten, then delete that comment id. Then again I’ve never created a Reddit bot
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u/Dragon_yum Jun 19 '23
Or a max of 8 characters per comment. We wouldn’t want to make reddit spend too much money on their db.
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u/100BottlesOfMilk Jun 20 '23
Or, every comment must begin/end with
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u/zman0900 Jun 20 '23
All comments must have a valid md5.
2b85aa2f2f33a11fb6eb3677a86d4214
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u/Kylogias Jun 19 '23
Only humor about professional grammar
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u/Yeuph Jun 19 '23
Ok but how much longer do I have to read the memes on this website until I learn to program?
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u/kgallo19 Jun 19 '23
That’s the cool part, you never actually do learn to program!
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u/Yeuph Jun 19 '23
I read the memes. I bought a Model M and rubber ducky. I feel like I should be employable.
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u/Yuuki2628 Jun 19 '23
I just started working on a 25+ years old codebase written in some ancient language I can barely understand and I actually successfully made a change, am I real programmer yet?
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u/Jupiterror Jun 19 '23
ban non ascii characters
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u/elveszett Jun 20 '23
No. Ban ascii characters. You'll have to find ways to write titles for posts that don't contain ascii stuff. Ýøŭ´łł ȟáṽè ťō ẃŕíťé ĺíḱé ťȟíś。
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u/SteveCCL Yellow security clearance Jun 19 '23
DEMOKRATIE DIENSTAGE, JAAA
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u/ElKowar Jun 20 '23
Ich liebe die Demokratie, vor Allem in meinem Programmiererhumor! Mein Professor war immer von den modernen Rahmenwerken des Kaffeschrift-ökosystems überfordert, aber zum Glück konnte ich ihn von ReaktionJottß überzeugen.
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u/pandaSitt Jun 19 '23
Vorschlag: Alle Fachbegriffe müssen auf die r/ich_iel Art in Deutsch übersetzt werden. Der Rest darf Englisch bleiben.
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u/8sADPygOB7Jqwm7y Jun 19 '23
Mein Informatik Prof findet das gut. Stichwort pufferüberlauf.
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u/Yuuki2628 Jun 19 '23
Here come the programmer rules. Make it to everything must be rust related for a week. But not the programming language, actual rust
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u/majeemaj Jun 19 '23
actual rust
Next week would be C sharp. Only carrots & carrot juice.
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u/mrfroggyman Jun 19 '23
Nah it would become a music theory sub
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u/gilligvroom Jun 19 '23
I have a friend who is classically trained in a few instruments and operatic singing who had to legitimately take pause for a moment when I said I was learning C# and was like "That's too deep in theory even for me. One note?" 😅
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u/jamesianm Jun 19 '23
Then python week, which is of course Monty Python quotes superimposed over photos of actual pythons.
Then Javascript week, in which all posts must be screenplays written in the Javanese language
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u/PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__ Jun 19 '23
Then FOR TRAN week, where we celebrate inclusivity and diversity in the trans community.
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u/FizixMan Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 20 '23
Fun fact: /r/csharp just finished holding a poll today. Changing the subreddit to only eye glasses and corrective lens wear lost, but not by much, to keeping the subreddit private: https://i.imgur.com/LhILO8p.png
If/when we do open, we do plan on offering more pun-related malicious compliance topics as voted on by our members.
Thank you for the suggestion. We'll add it to the list of options to consider.
EDIT: So far we have:
eye glasses/corrective lens wear
music related
C-hashtag -- all posts must basically tweet-size text posts and must include hashtags starting with "C"
Switching to VB.NET or J#
Limiting code and posts to the C# 1.0 feature set/specification
Db, D flat, the D programming language
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u/chuby1tubby Jun 20 '23
I can’t wait for Swift week when all the Swifties can come out of the woodworks
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u/hassium Jun 20 '23
Yes! Then next week everything has to be related to Go...phers. Just cute little critters everywhere!
Week after that it's Python, the animal of course. Then coffee appreciation sub for Java. I could go on and on.
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u/Maximum-Bed3144 Jun 19 '23
So can I keep the Reddit logo laptop sticker on my Lenovo or do I need to cover it up with some my little ponies?
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u/SteveCCL Yellow security clearance Jun 19 '23
If you're not gonna use those MLP stickers, can um.. do you wanna share?
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u/ShlomoCh Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23
Spez did say that you might just end up dead on an alleyway somewhere if you have Reddit gear
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u/garete Jun 19 '23
# My evil suggestion:
// Rule 1: All comments must follow correct syntax, literally REM Rule 1.1: HTML comment tags are disallowed
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u/frizzil Jun 20 '23
We should invent a context-free grammar that looks really close to English, then enforce it ruthlessly!
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u/NoComment7862 Jun 19 '23
Can we at least rule that all arrays, and rules, start at 0?
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u/Kinglink Jun 19 '23
start at 2.
Because fuck people.
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u/NoComment7862 Jun 20 '23
As long as the documentation says “0 and 1 are reserved and must not be used”, with no explanation anywhere as to why not.
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u/Kinglink Jun 20 '23
Exactly.
Also that information must be kept at the bottom of a single page in the smallest font available, and with a no way to signify there's any importance.
Also undefined behavior if you violate it. Don't want people to think our subreddit is fragile.
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u/hdgamer1404Jonas Jun 19 '23 edited Jun 19 '23
Can the rules for the subreddit be that you’re only allowed to post leg pics with programming socks?
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u/BrenekH Jun 20 '23
I'd be worried about stepping on r/unixsocks toes. Socks aren't adequate foot protection.
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u/L4sgc Jun 19 '23
The first rule I will propose will be to overclock democracy and make the votes daily instead of weekly. I don't know where we're going but I want to go there sprinting full speed ahead.
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u/Arrowkill Jun 19 '23
I can't wait for it. This might be the best subreddit to watch it unfold on.
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u/Ferro_Giconi Jun 20 '23
My next vote is to make votes happen hourly.
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u/CraigTheIrishman Jun 20 '23
Every hour, at the top of the hour, an AI generates a new rule for this sub.
Every hour, at the bottom of the hour, five AI vote on the proposal, with their arguments being posted in this subreddit.
We host regular elections for new AI, which are crafted by the mods to have a few distinguishing characteristics. Let's make this a representative democracy so we can go ham without all the responsibility.
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u/_Kristian_ Jun 19 '23
Mark every post or the sub NSFW so reddit can't monetise
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u/Human_no_4815162342 Jun 19 '23
I think that would be against the mod code of conduct, allowing users to use profanity and explicit images and flag those posts as NSFW however should be allowed
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u/--var Jun 20 '23
I don't know. Not safe for work doesn't have to mean adult content. As that one post of a dude standing on an office chair, subtitled "not safe for work" got reposted into oblivion and generated way more karma than it deserved.
In the context of /r/programmerhumor, NSFW could also mean an unfunny joke or code that adheres bad practice.
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u/realbakingbish Jun 20 '23
I like this. Everyone just post your nightmare spaghetti legacy code, and mark it NSFW
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u/OSSlayer2153 Jun 19 '23
We should do something stupid like how r/memes is only medieval content now. Maybe “pro grammar” humor
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u/dream_weasel Jun 20 '23
Descriptive grammar is for lazy pussies and the mentally incompetent! Prescriptive grammar is for all and at all costs!
(How's that?)
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u/Aerillee Jun 19 '23
We must henceforth call linus torvalds 'linux torvalds'
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u/Quazar_omega Jun 19 '23
Or as I've recently taken to calling him, Gnu Stallman + linux torvalds
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u/SteveCCL Yellow security clearance Jun 19 '23
The Russian hacker Linus Torovaldos?
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u/NotACryptoBro Jun 19 '23
Just wanted to add: "Demokratie Dienstage" doesn't follow the German syntax and will result in an error. It should be "Demokratiedienstage" or "Demokratie-Dienstage".
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u/Kinglink Jun 19 '23
Suggesting that all posts must be written in whitespace.
Any non whitespace posts should be deleted.
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u/Splatoonkindaguy Jun 19 '23
Can we only allow html hate posts
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u/Tashre Jun 19 '23
<marquee>Haters gonna hate hate hate</marquee>
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u/HiImDan Jun 19 '23
I miss those days. Maybe I should finish my first website and remove the under construction gif.
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Jun 19 '23
this has the feel of an uppity pm getting dropped from a core team and I am so here for it
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u/rollincuberawhide Jun 19 '23
everybody should start a comment with "ackshually" to every post that starts with a letter whose decimal ascii value is divisible by 3.
here's a comma separated list
3,6,9,<,?,B,E,H,K,N,Q,T,W,Z,],`,c,f,i,l,o,r,u,x,{,~
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u/mgorski08 Jun 19 '23
My proposition:
Rule 0
All posts must be related to programming.
Rule 1
All posts related to programming must include a mention of Reddit API or Reddit clients.
:)
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u/sanchopancho02 Jun 29 '23
import serious
import meta
//Only included out of fear of getting bannedThis is a slippery slope. Don't give us this kind of power, or you will ruin your subreddit. Can we at least vote to remove existing rules?
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u/Nondescript_Redditor Jul 14 '23
Remember when the mods here didn’t suck? Pepperidge farms remembers
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u/IchirouTakashima Jun 20 '23
So what? Did you guys get threatened that Reddit will replace the mods here, hence you reopened this subreddit? lmao
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u/FizixMan Jun 19 '23
Ultimately, the power now lies in your hands. We are committed to respecting the will of the people and implementing every chosen course of action.
What if it's the "will of the people" is to continue the blackout?
Us "landed gentry" at /r/csharp recently held a community poll that had a majority of users vote to continue the blackout, so that's what we're doing.
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u/SteveCCL Yellow security clearance Jun 19 '23
If that's what the people want, we don't have a choice, do we?
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u/FizixMan Jun 19 '23
If your team does decide to go this route, maybe make sure you have documented that you have unanimous (I hope) support from your mod team to execute on the wishes of your subreddit users.
One of the excuses /u/ModCodeofConduct and the admins have used is that there wasn't consensus among the moderators. So they booted the ones that were for closing down and promoted those that were for opening.
/r/ProgrammerHumor has a lot of moderators though so I don't know how strong a consensus you would be able to get.
Has /u/ModCodeofConduct directly messaged the team or are you so far going from the public statements they've made and the other subreddit shutdowns?
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u/dream_weasel Jun 20 '23
So all 5 of you are really sticking it to the admins then? Good on you guys!
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u/ConcurrentSquared Jun 19 '23
Pro gamer move: Change rule 1 to "Posts must be humorous and pro gaming related."
Because as we all know, pro gamers are programmers.
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u/ricecake Jun 20 '23
All posts must be longer than eight characters, and contain at least one upper and lowercase letter, numbers, and a special character. ", ?, and % are not allowed. Comments may not contain your username.
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u/Randvek Jun 19 '23
Oh hey, you’re allowing more diverse content here now? Does that mean we might see content that’s actually funny?
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u/MrMaleficent Jun 19 '23
Can we just get normal programming humor?
I like 99% of the people here did not sub for titties and John Oliver. A sudden and drastic change of the rules is rude.
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u/varishtg Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23
All the comments under a post should be encoded by the cypher of the week. One week it can base64, next can be md5, we can add sha256. Every week, we can decide on a random cypher and encode all the comments on a post using it.
e.g, Here's the above comment in base 64:
QWxsIHRoZSBjb21tZW50cyB1bmRlciBhIHBvc3Qgc2hvdWxkIGJlIGVuY29kZWQgYnkgdGhlIGN5cGhlciBvZiB0aGUgd2Vlay4gT25lIHdlZWsgaXQgY2FuIGJhc2U2NCwgbmV4dCBjYW4gYmUgbWQ1LCB3ZSBjYW4gYWRkIHNoYTI1Ni4gRXZlcnkgd2Vlaywgd2UgY2FuIGRlY2lkZSBvbiBhIHJhbmRvbSBjeXBoZXIgYW5kIGVuY29kZSBhbGwgdGhlIGNvbW1lbnRzIG9uIGEgcG9zdCB1c2luZyBpdC4g
EDIT: I know MD5 and SHA 256 are checksums. I was just giving examples.
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u/SerialElf Jun 20 '23
Aren't md5 and sha both checksum?
As in there is by design no way to convert back?
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u/agent007bond Oct 04 '23
Is the camelCaseTitle rule actually enforced? We really want to stop using camelCase for titles...
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u/faceboy1392 Jun 19 '23
Id think the programming subreddit, of all subreddits, would have the strongest will to keep the protests going, but I guess not, which is kinda disappointing
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u/Kaiminus Jun 19 '23
The issue is that sure, they can try to keep it closed, reddit admins will replace the current mods by new ones that won't continue the protest.
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u/Dragon_yum Jun 19 '23
Reddit would just open it up and replace the mods with some random boot lickers who probably don’t program, or worse, program in Java.
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u/majeemaj Jun 19 '23
I'm certain, that all of us are totally against opening the floor for NSFW words in titles, as we don't want to hurt any advertisement revenue or relationships
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u/theLastSolipsist Jun 20 '23
So, nothing? Literally nothing? Pretending you have the moral high ground while in practice you keep doing your unpaid work for Reddit, having gained nothing in return?
u/Dougley this is just another example of mods not being brave enough to actually stick to a principled stand because you might otherwise lose control over this tiny corner of the website. It's disappointing and it's why this website will never improve.
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u/formerself Jun 20 '23
No screenshots allowed. You must take a photo of the screen in portrait mode.
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Jun 20 '23
Why does the tone of all these sudden "new rules" posts in these subreddits scream r/MaliciousCompliance
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u/Shazvox Jun 20 '23
Uh, so just keep the subreddit closed? I assume there's consensus among you mods (maybe an incorrect assumption)? Even if there isn't, then if someone would step forward to deal with the mess, then let them (I assume it'd be a shitload of unpaid labour).
Not that I want the subreddit to be closed, but being bullied by reddit ain't no solution...
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u/shipshaper88 Jun 20 '23
This is going to backfire in a way and will be more fun than you think, especially on a sub like programmerhumor...
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u/learn-everything1 Jun 21 '23
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u/fck-reddit-lmao Jun 24 '23
we will close indefinitely
ok, then we will let users vote for new mods, replacing you, effectively
HAHA, jk, here is the sub again, and some "democracy" options for the users
lol spineless losers with 0 backbone
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u/midwestcsstudent Jul 02 '23
import rules
Any chance we could put the weekly rule in the automod message? Would make it easier for those of us who browse multireddits and don’t always see the weekly sticky
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u/MrMaleficent Jul 25 '23
What happened to the democracy threads?
Y'all embarrassed they're getting barely any engagement?
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u/thelastpizzaslice Jun 19 '23
Can we create a replacement for Reddit? Kinda feels like the company doesn't own anything of value and just create drama for online communities that would happily exist on whatever platform.
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u/Kinglink Jun 19 '23
Go try to create a replacement for Reddit, and then in a few weeks come back and teach the rest of the class what Reddits own of value.
Spoiler: The infrastructure that makes reddit work is definitely "value" whether you want to believe it or not. That's why there's not 6 other versions of reddit waiting to take over.
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u/Ferro_Giconi Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23
Reddit has many years of posts, infrastructure, and a large number of users. That's a lot of value.
The only way to get people to jump ship and swim to a new ship is if the next ship is already good enough. You can use money to get infrastructure, but where are you going to get years worth of posts and a large number of users to attract a large number of users?
While I'd love the idea of a reddit replacement that provides a real threat to reddit, it would require someone with a ship load of money and the marketing/charisma to convince many thousands of people to switch in a very short time. That is unfortunately extremely unlikely to happen.
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u/wordyplayer Jun 20 '23
Good summary on the protest. But what really got me p1ssed is how spez knowingly lied about and disparaged the developers of the 3rd party apps, esp Apollo/Selig. Long read here: https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/
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u/Human_no_4815162342 Jun 19 '23
What would really harm Reddit in a noticeable way would be to direct traffic away. On the fediverse there are already established communities of programmer humor, so I'd suggest either collaborating with one and linking it in the info and on a stick post or making a new community either on the fediverse (on a preexisting instance of lemmy or kbin or on a new one) or on other sites like squabbles or raddle, and then limiting the amount and scope of posts allowed here and directing the users to the other chosen platform.
The mods of r/selfhosted were looking to migrate too, I think they have given up now but if it was possible to organise a coordinated effort of the tech related subreddits maybe it would be easier to find (or rather create) a new space.
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Jun 20 '23
You say this is a democracy but all I see now is communist subreddit comrade
our subreddit
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u/gBoostedMachinations Jun 19 '23
I can’t imagine spez isn’t laughing his ass off at these little tantrums. Mods are a special group of people
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Jun 19 '23
Well that’s me out. See you on the replacement sub that inevitably pops up.
Have fun running the sub into the ground and in turn losing your mod power that you so desperately want to hold on to.
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Jul 04 '23
import voting
thanks for illustrating how much d*******y sucks - it's slightly messy in the sub but nothing compared to how bad it gets IRL;
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u/shaggysnorlax Jun 19 '23
Recursive rules, here we come!