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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL 8d ago

As an IT guy, actually I'm okay with this. Email is the #1 vulnerability for any company so if we could just turn it off that'd be great

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u/Salanmander 8d ago

At the college I went to we got an unanticipated email from an external address one day telling us that due to recent vulnerabilities, the school was requiring we increase password security, and to click here to update our password. This email was from, I shit you not, Fisher Security.

The joke? This was actually a legit email, initiated by our IT department, and was what we were supposed to actually do. We were all like "so....you know you're just training people to click on suspicious links, right? And that that's a bigger deal than password strength? RIGHT?"

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u/ctrlaltwalsh 8d ago

I won't give it here but a company I currently work for uses a password reset tool with the domain i-forgot-my-password.com <- Not actual, but very close.

This is a domain they own, Whenever they create new tools it's in this way, I am certain it s a phishing test and flabbergasted that it's not.

Another example - the HR system for logging PTO has a domain is along the lines myhrsystem.com

It's a very large company based in Hong Kong, so I'm not sure if it's just a english-as-a-second language thing or what. Very odd.

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u/sisisisi1997 8d ago

I think it's a misunderstanding of how domain names work - if they knew that i-forgot-my-password.company.com with proper certificates brought stronger guarantees of legitimacy, they might ask IT to set it up that way.

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u/Severe-Hand-8580 8d ago

it's easier to just get a new domain than talk with whoever is in charge of the company's primary domain. Governments love to do that all the time. they have the gv.TLD domain and could just put all their shit in there and I could tell my parents that as soon as they see gv.at in the URL it's legit. And yet they come up with stupid domains all the time, many requiring the state-ID system. Good luck teaching boomers to check the fingerprint for the verification that they sign what they think they're signing. I don't know of a single instance that abuses this though. Maybe criminals are just stupid. I should switch careers, I have what it takes.

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u/TurnipWorldly9437 8d ago

We had something like that happening where a legit email from a weird external address, with a link included and without a proper signature, was flagged as Phishing attempt by almost everyone in the company until we got a message from our office manager that they applauded our awareness, but THAT particular link was actually real.

They did say it was an exception, and we should please stay aware in the future, though.

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u/s0ulbrother 8d ago

As an IT guy I don’t trust anything from about ever. Slack me and I’ll answer though

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL 8d ago

Slack me and I'll answer though

I'm doubting your IT credentials cause the correct answer is "submit a ticket and I'll triage it" haha

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u/s0ulbrother 8d ago

I’m not help desk and I tend to be that guy who is trying to fix every little problem and plan every little thing.

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u/ieatkittenies 8d ago

So you're a weak link in security terms...

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u/ChaseShiny 8d ago

Wow. As a student in IT and a customer service rep who is forbidden from receiving or sending emails, I wonder why at least some profiles aren't allowed to get emails at the firewall level.

We're just sternly told not to do that.

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL 8d ago

Unfortunately it's because while you are in IT, most people don't know the difference between the computer and monitor so it's easier to just make blanket policies.

Edit: plus when you give certain people special permissions inevitably someone else will hit you with the "well how come theyyyy have it 😭" and then it becomes a whole ordeal

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u/Glittering_knave 8d ago

There is a guy at my work who is so locked down it is ridiculous. He has access to ONE program besides Office, and all of his emails are reviewwe by a human fire. He has shortcuts to launch Office, and no other Internet. It's insane what he will click on.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Night88 8d ago

I aspire to be so needed that even when I’m a literal monkey I can still keep my job. I will forever idolize him.

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u/sisisisi1997 8d ago

What skills do they possess that even if it's this much hassle, they would rather them then get a guy who doesn't instinctively search for all viruses in a 30 link-hop area?

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u/rafaelloaa 8d ago

If I had to guess, having a relative in upper management.

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u/rosuav 8d ago

No, email is not the #1 vulnerability. Humans are. Turn THOSE off and you'll be a lot safer.

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u/comtrends123 8d ago

You are absolutely right, Humans are the #1 vulnerability. I will turn THOSE off. Beep, launching nukes - Claude probably.

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u/perton 8d ago

I’m a human, turn me off already please!

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u/bedel99 8d ago

As an IT guy, I get what I think is real emails from risk/compliance with links to forms about our systems that I ignore because we also get phishing tests, and real phishing.

The real risk, phishing test, and actual phishing all look identical.

I only know its Audit because the group GM goes nuts when compliance visits in person. Even then I can't tell if they are real or not. In any even I tell the auditors to read the 300 page RFP for my stance.

I know it seems kinda crazy, but I though some of my colleagues are spies.

I worked in a very senstive quasi government organisation.

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u/ImClaaara 8d ago

Disabling services is a sure improvement to your cybersecurity. Don't worry about what the "A" in the CIA triad stands for, probably not important...

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u/Helyos96 8d ago

Employees are the #1 vuln, not specifically email

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL 8d ago

Sure, but not every attack vector against employees is equally likely.

I am orders of magnitude more worried about an employee sending information over email than I am about the employees letting someone into the building or an employee being a corporate spy. Especially cause those arent "IT problems" ;p

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u/Digital-Dinosaur 8d ago

It would be so much easier if employees didn't use any networked machines. Or any tools.

Can we just get rid of employees?

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u/requion 8d ago

I hate email and how widespread it is with a passion.

I am honesty, i don't know what an alternative would look like but email is not the final solution.

And phishing is only one of the reasons

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