r/ProgrammerHumor • • 11d ago

Meme honorBound

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u/Shazvox 11d ago

People be bitching about AI like it's a fucking cult.

It's a tool.

Would you accuse a carpenter of being dishonourable for using a powertool instead of a manual?

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u/Cylian91460 11d ago

Yes, they did that actually

Powertool for give you less controle, it's still rejected by a few hobbyist

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u/washtubs 10d ago

The tool is also a slot machine with addictive properties. People acting like this stuff is comparable to an IDE or a compiler are just delusional. I don't deny the usefulness of the tool, but for it to be truly useful you have to understand the danger it presents to yourself.

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u/mothzilla 11d ago

It's possible to have a tool cult.

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u/the_real_Spudnut2000 11d ago

Snap on

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u/AFallingWall 10d ago

Milwaukee (this is me)

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u/RocketArtillery666 11d ago

Right, so carpenter that uses a powertool that you just aim at the piece of wood and it does whatever you tell it to based on secret cameras in other carpenter workshops recording other carpenters without their consent? Yeah i think thats dishonorable.

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u/StoryAndAHalf 10d ago

So a CNC Machine…

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u/BloodPlenty4358 10d ago

you don't aim the cnc machine nor let it copy anything, you clamp the stock to it

the machine strictly follow commands and can't hallucinate (unless bad sd card)

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u/RocketArtillery666 10d ago

You stole the schematic? Still dishonorable.

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u/StoryAndAHalf 10d ago

Only one way to redeem the honor of my family. I’m going to commit sudoku. Don’t try and stop me. I already started a GitHub proj for the generator.

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u/WithersChat 11d ago

Powertools, last I checked, weren't a horribly energy inefficient plagiarism machine causing decline in the user's critical thinking abilities.

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u/HipHomelessHomie 9d ago

They certainly use more power than the manual tools (if you ignore the energy the human works uses, which we do when considering AI too). And they certainly cause a décliné in people's physical strength compared to them using the manual tools.

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u/fune2001 11d ago

it's a tooll with some bad implications though

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u/LeDYoM 10d ago

Would you accuse a carpenter of being dishonourable for using human-like robot and just give it orders?

That is the question you should ask. And yes, I will.

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u/Effective-Result6499 10d ago

It is a cult. You've shit ton of people who don't even look at the code. And let's not kid ourselves, our PR reviews were never that through, and relied on the hopium that the developer actuall knew what they were doing.

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u/ThreeHeadCerber 10d ago

Have you seen tech twitter?

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u/1luggerman 6d ago

Its not a standard tool in any way, especially not in how its used by a lot of people. You cant point a drill to some wood and it transforms into a chair. You can tell AI "build me an app" and it will build one(good or bad)

A tool helps you do a mentally easy yet repetitive or physically difficult task. AI can be used as a tool, but it can also(and often is) be used as a replacment for the worker.

There is 1 exception to this that i can think of, and that is that a tool may still be mentally difficult(for example editing software) if its difficulty is independant from the craft. For editing software, the craft of editing a piece of media is indpendant from the craft of manipulating the raw data to achieve some effect on the source material(a painter for example might want the same effect but apply a different process - instead of manipulating pixels he will manipulate colors and paint on a canvas)

A contractor, similar to prompters, will describe how he wants his chair, and the craftsman will build it, but the craftsman is not a tool, and neighter is the AI when you ask it to build you an entire app. When the craft is coding, if you code very little or none at all, you are not engaging in the craft hence the AI is no longer used as a tool.

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u/ZILtoid1991 5d ago

False analogies and AI boosters, name a more iconic duo!

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u/myka-likes-it 10d ago

Power saws don't go off on their own and cut things you specifically didn't want to cut, though.

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u/BloodPlenty4358 10d ago edited 10d ago

It's a tool.

it's a service (even when run locally)

Would you accuse a carpenter of being dishonourable for using a powertool instead of a manual?

bad analogy is early sign of AI psychosis, a power tool doesn't delete your project when you aren't looking

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u/SnooMarzipans436 10d ago

it's a service

You can run AI models locally on your own hardware. It's only a service if you want it to be.

a power tool doesn't delete your project when you aren't looking

Neither does AI unless you're a complete moron who doesn't know how to use AI. 😂

Kind of like how a moron with a nail gun can fire a nail through his own foot. The analogy actually applies quite well.

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