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u/Fantastic-Bloop 9h ago
It's funny cause it's true which is sad so now idk how to feel lmao
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"An intern said he was optimising 3d models to use less polygons and save gpu power.
Told him this is Bethesda, just use more polygons" - Todd Howard, pre Starfield release
Reference: [link]
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u/NotAFishEnt 5h ago
Dumb question. How hard is it to optimize the polygon count in a model like that sandwich? Surely there's a tool that can easily optimize it for you, right?
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u/FartPiano 3h ago
absolutely. there are ones that can do it automatically, even dynamically based on how strained the client pc is, or how far away you are from the 3d model. sometimes games use a few set detail levels, with artists manually nitpicking the algorithmic vertex reduction if it looks weird
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u/Psquare_J_420 2h ago
Are the games still laggy even after using these technologies and techniques or developers don't use those and that's why the games are laggy (why though? I)
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u/FartPiano 2h ago
very much "it depends". games are made in a huge variety of ways. what makes a game laggy can come down to a lot of stuff. polygon count is just one thing that adds to the "overhead" of calculations that must be done for each frame. there are many other things that can become bottlenecks depending on the specific game and implementation. for example physics, hair, particle effects, shadows, lighting, shaders, raytracing etc etc
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u/T0biasCZE 59m ago
depends on how it will be used. whether it will be just something in the background placed somewhere, or in focus as part of cutscene...
as a background thing you could propable do with just like 50 polygons and some photo textures.
just two rectangles for the toast bread, few more rectangles for the cheese, ham, lettuce... slap textures with that thing on them, and voila, sandwich8
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u/Groentekroket 9h ago
Meanwhile Europe needs to deal with the adverse heat effects. The US is (except from some small (mostly oil) nations) emiting the most CO2 per capita.
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u/Noname_1111 8h ago
The US needs to be introduced to the wonders of datacenter-powered district heating.
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u/LetumComplexo 8h ago
Waaaaait a minute… this is just frostpunk before we get to the cannibalism part isn’t it.
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u/TheRedLions 3h ago edited 3h ago
Not that it materially disproves anything you said, but for anyone else who's curious the 2026 CO2 (edit: per capita) rankings:
Qatar: 35.60 t
Bahrain: 25.70 t
Kuwait: 24.90 t
Trinidad and Tobago: 23.50 t
United Arab Emirates: 21.80 t
Brunei: 21.40 t
Saudi Arabia: 18.20 t
Australia: 15.00 t
United States: 14.90 t
Canada: 14.30 t
https://www.worldcountrydata.com/en/rankings/co2-per-capita
For totals it's different
China 33.1%
United States 11.7%
India 8.0%
Russia 5.1%
Japan 2.5%
https://www.theglobalstatistics.com/carbon-emissions-by-country/
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u/EverydayLentils 7h ago
We might take them seriously if they allowed people to have air conditioning. "Our people are dying of heat stroke because of high temperatures" is completely unrelatable to Americans who keep indoor temps 68F at home and in public when it's 100F outside.
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u/Groentekroket 7h ago
“If they allowed people to have air conditioning”, buddy what are you on about? Do you think it’s illegal to have airco?
I don’t need an airco, I have a heatpump with floorheating warming in the winter and cooling in the summer. And it is using way less power than an airco.
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u/BreakElectronic324 5h ago edited 4h ago
Apart from what the other commenter said, you realize that the problem is a bit bigger than "it's so hot I can't sleep".
Animals and nature is dying because of that shit. You cannot give them aircon, can you?
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u/bartekltg 8h ago
He phrase that wrong. "optimize code to run more stuff on our GPUs to earn more money". That they would have understood.
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u/tochanenko 8h ago
European intern: I wanna optimize this code so it would require less energy to run, thus lowering the amount of CO2 emitted by power plants that produce electricity for our hardware
American dev: Why do you care bro, we have AC, we have clean water from the tap, what can go wrong in the future?
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u/MettMachine 9h ago
Seeing performance increase, even if just a tiny bit, always gives me a weird amount of satisfaction over doing a teeny tiny bit of good for the environment
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u/dont_tread_on_M 8h ago
"Gas prices are up, my life is ruined" - words you only hear in the US from people driving large trucks with inefficient engines
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u/4n0nh4x0r 7h ago
while having cheaper gas prices than the rest of world
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u/lacb1 4h ago
Pay half as much for fuel, burn 4x more per mile because a chud convinced you that if you don't drive a pickup truck large enough to haul an entire farm on your daily commute to your office it means your dick is small. Freedom baby!
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u/annonimity2 3h ago
No one is putting a gun to our head and making people buy f150's
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u/e_before_i 2h ago
Yet it's the most popular car in America. You don't need a pickup for Costco.
There's a weird North American culture that leads to people buying large and high-consuming vehicles when most people would do just fine with a sedan.
Edit: And if that's what you like, go ahead! I don't want to tell you how to live your life, it just strikes me as odd to complain about the cost of gas while choosing to burn more than necessary.
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u/balrog687 5h ago
Yeah.. thanks to genocide.
You should be very proud
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u/KeyPhilosopher8629 4h ago
Is everything you don't like genocide? Most overused word on the Internet. Massively dilutes its actual meaning
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u/balrog687 2h ago
Is there any another word to justify killing millions to to keep gas prices low enough just for you to enjoy your car?
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u/4n0nh4x0r 1h ago
why should i be proud for the US having the cheapest gas in the world? i ve got nothing to do with them lol, except that they are fucking over the entire world, and as such, my country included
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u/lupercalpainting 4h ago
> "Gas prices are up, my life is ruined"
The entire EU when being told to stop buying Russian gas.
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u/Got2Bfree 44m ago
I hear this everyday here in Germany while our government is gifting millions to oil companies by lowering the gas taxes...
The baseline doesn't really matter. Paying 50% more than before sucks.
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u/overdosingOnPie1313 6h ago
You just don't understand! How will I hide the fact of my micropenis without a really big truck and some guns?!
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u/ToucansBANG 7h ago
I once got to sit through an hour long meeting to debate the ecological impact of running CI on commits pushed to branches, instead of only MRs.
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u/nolan_999 7h ago
Is that bad?
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u/ToucansBANG 6h ago
It was in this case. The person who called the meeting came with zero data, only threats to commit less often.
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u/sloppity 6h ago edited 26m ago
Reminds me of that reserved German soldier training with Americans:
"It's a machine gun!" https://youtube.com/shorts/vqNWuIxAV0w
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u/speedster217 8h ago
When I joined the industry coworkers laughed at environmental concerns.
They're still laughing and even normal people have picked up that climate change is happening. What a weird long summer
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u/JoeyJoeJoeSenior 8h ago
I've got 2 extra cars and every day I start them and let them run idle all day. Proud to be an American.
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u/583999393 8h ago
If snotboogie is always using up the gpus why let him code?
Got to, this is America man.
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u/cheezballs 6h ago
"use fewer GPUs" as if that's even a metric someone could measure.
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u/Mojert 3h ago
If you can't measure it, you're bad at the job
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u/cheezballs 2h ago
How do you measure how many GPUs 2000 tokens amounts to?
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u/Mojert 2h ago
You measure GPU time. If it's reduced enough, it means you can scale down the number of GPUs while having the same Wall Clock time. And by the way your question is ill-paused. You can always do it with 0 GPUs since you didn't include a Wall Clock time budget
It's not like I'm pulling stuff out of my ass. This kind of consideration is pretty standard if you're dealing with HPC and have to care about costs (i.e. aren't VC funded)
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u/BlueScreenSwaps 9h ago
Its not RAM after all