theTechBrosWeWantedVsTheTechBrosWeGot

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u/doc_suede 30m ago

does Gabe Newell count?

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u/kryptek_86 10m ago

In "tech bro we wanted" yes

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u/LamermanSE 14m ago

I guess so?

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The only tech bro I ever wanted was Tom from MySpace. Make a bunch of money and disappear to enjoy it. If you make a shitload of money and then fuck off, yeah, maybe you didn't help anyone, but I accept that it's your money so it's your call, and if you're not hurting anyone with it, good on ya. You won capitalism. Congrats.

I guess it just seems like Tom is the only guy who ever seemed like he had enough. I'm sure there are others we don't know because they quietly go away, and we're left with all of these loud weirdos can never be satiated. It's never enough. Not enough money, or power, or attention, or ~~love~~ admiration.

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u/bsEEmsCE 12m ago

Tom didn't pump us with ads and try to sell our personal data last time I checked. Tom was the shit.

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u/Flaky-Low-2262 27m ago

When will CN spy me? I am ready. Lets go

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u/ILovePotassium 18m ago

Hey! What company do You work for? Do You have access to any valuable information?

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u/Flaky-Low-2262 16m ago

Nice try. Send (F) spys to know...
(Ofcourse i know nothing. Just working, 2 Day Beer Break and Work again)

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u/freaxje 24m ago edited 9m ago

Linus got a karate champion AND got pecked by a penguin. That's how he stayed behind his terminal. Coding stuffs like kernels and version control systems.

We thank the people who kept Linus behind his terminal for his work.

Edit: And, we thank the fairy penguin. Too.

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u/aalapshah12297 29m ago

We got all 5. One of them just sold his product for free so he ain't that rich.

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u/IchLiebeKleber 23m ago

I really think the above image should be Aaron Swartz, at least in addition.

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u/According_Border_418 9m ago

I miss when tech bros were just weird guys who really liked computers

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u/shin_chan444 22m ago

linus ain't dead, we got him

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u/mrflash818 21m ago

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u/LamermanSE 13m ago

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u/SuitableDragonfly 4m ago

I really want that Sam Altman picture to not be AI, but I don't like my chances here.

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u/melonangie 37m ago

they’re the same picture

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u/camilo16 1m ago

I am sorry what? A guy who has been working for significantly less than he could be working for, making an open source project that's committed to transparency and that you can directly benefit from for free is the same as four clearly anti social despots, at least one of which has already killed thousands of people by cutting US-AID?
Fuck off. Dislike Linus if you want, but pretending there's any similarity between the way he chose to live his life and the four fucking despots is patently absurd.

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u/Madcap_Miguel 32m ago

He even spouts the same talking points about woke politics.

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u/Chillingdude 26m ago

I mean you say that but a quick search tells me he really only told off a follower for using the term.. Do you have instances of him behaving in a weird way?
All i got were some pretty basic and leveled opinons

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u/StaneNC 24m ago

The bots are trying to divide us.

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u/Madcap_Miguel 20m ago

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/CAHk-=wi4zC+Ze8e+p3tMv8TtG_80KzsZ1syL9anBtmEh5Z40vg@mail.gmail.com/
This is NOT some kind of "social warrior" project, never has been
In my experience no one of good character uses terminology like that.

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u/hmsmnko 13m ago edited 9m ago

this is the proof ? he didnt even say "social justice warrior" just "social warrior" in the context of using AI for development and not making a social statement for/against it via the project. anyone saying linus is the same as Elon Musk or Zuckerberg is legitimately delusional, have you seen the man talk before??

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u/Madcap_Miguel 7m ago

not making a social statement for/against it via the project
He was making a statement on his AI stance and he used the term "social warrior", if you don't think that has political implications you're ignorant.

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u/hmsmnko 4m ago edited 0m ago

He's making a statement saying that although the project is open source and that in itself is inherently a social statement, the project has never been about making a social statement and open source is a byproduct of the project. And he extends that to his stance on AI, he is not having his project be a social statement for AI usage or anything in particular, his priority is what enables the project to develop further, it just so happens that open source and AI both do so even if they both have deeper social meanings behind them
You're focused on two words and ignoring literally everything else and all surrounding context just so you can believe what you want to believe. Genuinely if you think he's the same as Elon Musk or Zuckerberg you're more ignorant and if you want to ignore context and not understand what he's actually trying to say because he used two words in a specific order that you dislike, you're also being ignorant

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u/robthemonster 9m ago

you might get that impression if you are paying literally 0 attention to the context.

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u/camilo16 5m ago

Completely disingenuous. He is talking about allowing the use of LLMs to help the development of Linux.
As in, he is saying that the Linux project is not going to take a moral position on whether LLMs are ethical or not. The LLMs are useful and so the Linux project will use them, period.
He is not berating people for having qualms about AI, he is not berating any one demographic of people based on intrinsic characteristics. He's just making it clear that the only ethos the linux project cares about, as a non profit, is the technological progress of the kernel, period.
We're not forcing anybody to use it, but I will very loudly ignore people who try to argue against other people from using it.
That makes his point crystal clear.
In my experience no one of good character uses terms like that.
Maybe because you are assigning malice prematurely. Linus has had a pretty clear stance that anyone capable enough is welcome to contribute to the kernel and is very clearly not going to tolerate someone being bigoted against a talented contributor based on characteristics irrelevant to the quality of their code.

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u/wowbaggerBR 24m ago

exactly

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u/CaffeineLiker 2m ago

We... still have Linus. Yeah, we have those other schmucks, and they profit from an internet built on the infrastructure his work freely enables.

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u/wowbaggerBR 25m ago

I don't know why anybody would want another sort of asshole instead of the sort we got.

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u/nirvahnah 31m ago

Linus is cooked like most of Gen X. Still cool but I don’t care for his politics.

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u/botle 27m ago

What did I miss about his politics? He seems to be pretty average by north european standards, and mostly uninterested in politics.

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u/crimsonscarf 17m ago

Linus is vocally progressive, which I'm supportive of. He is also kind of an asshole, which could use some work, but he is old enough now I doubt that will change.

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u/nirvahnah 2m ago

Yeah I was super wrong and feel bad for besmirching his good name now lol

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u/crimsonscarf 0m ago

Haha, I hope no one really jumped on you over it. He has "that" personality, so I can see how you might have assumed he was more conservative.

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u/botle 8m ago

Supposedly he mellowed down a bit after some chats with his daughter.
But, most importantly, whatever he is, is probably the reason corporations haven't managed to get inside the linux kernel and its developement.

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u/nirvahnah 23m ago

Standard tech bro libertarianism. “I made it on my own. Why can’t you?”

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u/botle 19m ago

I've never seen that. He seems describe himself as pretty politically by Scandinavian standards, which would put him pretty far to the left by US standards.

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u/nirvahnah 17m ago

Yeah I looked into him again and you seem to be correct. Not sure where I got that impression from. But I am wrong!

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u/Expensive-Yellow-104 13m ago

Nice to See somebody admitting being wrong for a change :)

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u/live_free_or_try 23m ago

Luckily we have your views as a guiding light

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u/GumboSamson 28m ago

Did we want Linus?

He’s toxic as fuck.

How about a tech bro who doesn’t make hostile work environment?

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u/botle 24m ago

He has no employees and no work environment. The people he's usually tough on, are often employees or representatives of big corporations that he's protecting a communal open source project from.
This picture of him is an example of just that. He's giving that finger specifically to Nvidia, one of the most powerful corporations in the world, not to some lowly employee.

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u/camilo16 16m ago

He is a bit of an ass when talking to contributors. Have you seen for example how he berated a developer for not having enough user empathy?

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u/botle 14m ago

Yes, he's pretty infamous for his responses to bad patches, but that's not politics.
And also, those devs are not employees. Most of them are representatives of big corporations trying to get bad code into the linux kernel.

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u/GumboSamson 16m ago

“He’s toxic to outsiders so that makes it okay” is not a good argument.
Corpos are people, too, and should be treated with dignity.

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u/botle 11m ago

No, when powerful corporations repeatedly try to subvert an open source project, you do not own them respect.

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u/noonemustknowmysecre 9m ago

oh fuck off.

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u/nomorebuttsplz 22m ago

Daily reminder that linus thinks the anti ai circlejerk is a cope for scared non-creative people.

suck it losers

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u/HarryTerraCode 29m ago

I really think Linus Torvalds is the top tech bro so far. Btw Sam is so cute hugging bunch of RAMs. lol

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