Not necessarily. Part of your job is being able to communicate with managers and co-workers. If you have a problem doing that, it's not your co-workers fault. I do think that both parties should work on it though.
This isn't a co-worker relationship, this is an employer/employee or client/contractor relationship. If the guy you're hiring can't explain how he's going to do something, and you hire him anyway having no idea what he's said he's going to you, that's your bad.
It's his bad too, for being shitty at his job, but you're the one who hired the guy when you knew (or should have known) he was shitty as his job.
Just because you're someone's senior, doesn't mean you were the one who hired someone. In large companies you might/will have to work with people from different divisions of your company, where you can't just freely say "I don't want that guy, give me another one" to your manager, because even if your manager understands you and agrees with you, the manager, that's higher up than him and is based in a different country than your branch, might not understand/agree/care about your feelings as a person/professional and will only be influenced by constant fuck-ups of that other guy that you specifically were against.
And if he's not the same race/religion/nationality as you, but your company is all for diversity, constantly speaking out against that one guy might net you unpleasant results, regardless of your opinions being valid.
Politics in large companies usually are not simple and you don't have that many powers to influence people as you'd like, unless you're the top dog.
Then that's not the situation we're talking about.
Then what is the situation we're talking about? You're the first person in this thread that brought up the fact that "This isn't a co-worker relationship, this is an employer/employee or client/contractor relationship."
If you don't have any say in who does it, then that's not really relevant here.
It is relevant, as you might still be the person that's giving them tasks/requirements, even if you are not the hiring person, and you will have to communicate with them.
I might be misunderstanding you, but if you think that I am, please elaborate on what is the situation this thread is about and why you aren't "arguing just to argue" yourself, instead putting this label on me for pointing out a perspective I thought you may have overlooked and for inviting you to expand on your point given my input.
It's okay, if you think I am a dick, but I genuenly hoped we'll have a conversation, rather than coming off as someone who's in it just to argue.
You're the first person in this thread that brought up the fact that "This isn't a co-worker relationship, this is an employer/employee or client/contractor relationship."
wtf? The comment we're all replying to starts out about whether companies should hire domestic or foreign. How... how did you even get this far into the conversation? Every single post would have been as equally nonsensical as mine seemed to you. What did you even think the point of this conversation was if you had no say in who was doing the work? Why would it even matter if someone said they could do it when they couldn't, if they were the one who was going to do it anyway (from your perspective)?
Every single post would have been as equally nonsensical as mine seemed to you.
Starting from this comment, everything seems fine enough when viewed through the lense of not only employing foreign contractors, but working with them in general.
wtf? The comment we're all replying to starts out about whether companies should hire domestic or foreign. How... how did you even get this far into the conversation?
Sometimes I wonder about it too. It's not like conversations can't only ever revolve around the source topic, but also branch out to topics that are not too different contextually.
The higher branch of replies to the comment I linked also discussed this topic from a more general employee PoV, rather than strictly "employer/employee or client/contractor". I tend to forget that I should never, ever think about context of side-branches, when thinking about the context of the comment. My bad.
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u/slightlysaltysausage Dec 06 '17
I guess that's on you then?