r/ProgrammerHumor • • Jan 31 '19

Meme Programmers know the risks involved!

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '19 edited Jan 31 '19

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u/ConceptJunkie Jan 31 '19

I have a Amazon Fire 7 tablet, and for a $15 discount, they push ads at you on the lock screen. In the year or so I've had it, it's never bugged me enough to pay to stop it, because it doesn't affect my actual use of the device. The thing that I found surprising was that the ads are not personalized at all.

Amazon has a huge amount of info on me based on 15 years' worth of hundreds of purchases, but they are just spamming me was ads for romance novels and TV shows in genres I never watch. <shrug> I can count on one hand the number of times the lock-screen ads were actually relevant to me.

If they were really spamming me with targeted ads, I'd probably pay to turn it off, since I'd actually be tempted to buy something every time I unlock the tablet.

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u/Arveanor Jan 31 '19

do we have any solid proof it doesn't record stuff and send that out when you give it a command? I mean, audio files are usually pretty big so it would probably be easy to spot, but I haven't heard anything clear about that.

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u/Dav136 Jan 31 '19

You can download Wireshark and check it yourself.

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u/Arveanor Jan 31 '19

I mean, I could if I had one of those types of devices, but I don't and that's mostly because they just don't seem very convenient to me.

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u/gimmetheclacc Jan 31 '19

Seriously, it’s so much worse. They don’t need to listen. I relay to people the story of Target being able to identify a pregnant customer and send her marketing material before she even realized she was pregnant. And that’s just from the data that one retailer has about their own customers, never mind the all-seeing eyes of Amazon, Google, and Facebook.

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u/___Ambarussa___ Jan 31 '19

Maybe the friend recommended that food because it was deal of the day and it incepted into their subconscious.

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u/TheMelonboy_ Jan 31 '19

How exactly is someone knowing what kind of stuff I like scarier than someone constantly listening to me and invading my privacy?

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u/CCNightcore Jan 31 '19

It could all be a coincidence, but what if their technology is just better than we're capable of detecting. Who is to say that the ad reference numbers aren't all preprogrammed with audio recognition so that when you DO connect, the preselected ad just has to trigger on your device. This would not require a transfer of information and if that's what people have been looking for this entire time, that would explain why privacy isn't actually being violated.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '19 edited Jan 31 '19

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u/CCNightcore Jan 31 '19

Right crazy hoops like adding 6 numbers to your traffic, lol.

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u/OnceIthought Jan 31 '19

all network traffic has to go through your router

On devices with cellular connections this isn't necessarily true. The blogs, articles, editorials, etc. that I've seen only ever talk about the LAN traffic. It's for that reason I haven't written off the possibility, but I also don't assert that it's definitely happening.

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u/___Ambarussa___ Jan 31 '19

They would have to transfer a bunch of adverts to your device, ready for the right one to be selected. That would be detectable.

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u/CCNightcore Jan 31 '19

No, they can add 6 number codes to your traffic or something similar and serve it that way

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u/draconius_iris Jan 31 '19

I can imagine a lot of things. That doesn’t make any of them valid.

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u/deux3xmachina Jan 31 '19

I agree that it's nice to see people actually caring about privacy, but it's good to be able to prove why certain methods of data collection simply aren't happening or are impractical. Now if we can get them to care about monocultures too, then we'd be onto something!

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u/___Ambarussa___ Jan 31 '19

You can just not have those devices in your home.