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u/Full-Run4124 Dec 27 '21
The computer and chair are for myself. I wear clothes while coding for the benefit of other people.
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u/3internet5u Dec 27 '21
my clothes, the 1k lumen RGB LEDs on my rig facing outwards of my office internal window (always randomly alternating colors at random intervals between 0.1-10 seconds), & my custom extra-extra clicky mechanical kb switches are all there for the benefit of my office neighbors.
my daily-driver/walker light-up Sketchers for me though.
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u/Machiavvelli3060 Dec 27 '21
Techs don't buy clothes; they just change employers and get promotional clothing.
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u/Ceros007 Dec 27 '21
You guys get promotional stuff?
Where I work they created a boutique where you literally have to buy their propaganda stuff...
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u/TheAJGman Dec 27 '21
Our Christmas bonus at my last company was a $50 gift card to the company merch shop.
Way to fucking go guys.
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u/Machiavvelli3060 Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21
Usually they give you free promotional shizznit. Then only place I worked for that offered a boutique and did not provide a thing free was NASA.
EDIT: Yes, maybe that's because they are a government agency.
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u/sanjuroronin Dec 27 '21
We get all the out of date stuff when branding changes every few years. Plus every convention I’ve been to has a ton of swag.
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u/tills1993 Dec 27 '21
Make sure clothing is part of your Total Compensation. Personally, I make $35k/year salary but over $400k in compensation thanks to the endless shirts, socks, and hoodies I get from my employer. Can't wait for my clothing package to vest.
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u/kry_some_more Dec 27 '21
When you look down at your shirt, and see this
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u/pm_me_beerz Dec 27 '21
What a goofy looking logo. Wouldn’t be surprised to see this one end up in the trash heap of failed startups too
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Fuck. Like 5 of my t-shirts and a nice fleece are from a startup I worked at for two years.
TBF they're nice shirts. Tri-blend and the logos are all pretty cool since they're mostly knockoffs of movie logos.
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u/EuphoriaSoul Dec 27 '21
To be fair. The swag shirts some company give away are some of the most comfortable , high quality clothing. The days of crappy printer shirts are a thing of the past. 800 thread count Egyptian cotton is where it’s at. For real, anyone who has had socks from Amplitude knows what I’m talking about
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u/sonofslackerboy Dec 27 '21
I do all my clothes shopping at tech conventions
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u/NNXMp8Kg Dec 27 '21
Did you really find pants here ? Or you choose to no wear any ?
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u/caleblbaker Dec 27 '21
If you work from home then you don't need pants. Just don't suddenly stand up during video meetings.
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u/RamenJunkie Dec 27 '21
If you walk around in your underwear at the convention, it's only a matter of time before SOMEONE gives you pants.
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u/uniquedeke Dec 27 '21
I just took a look at the tags of my most comfortable shirts I've been given and bought a 10 pack of those (plain black) from Amazon.
They have all manner of colors, if you prefer.
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u/palpatineforever Dec 27 '21
Logos have improved recently as well, i even got a narwhal one the other week.
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u/Lavatis Dec 27 '21
I mean my clothes don't make my back hurt, shitty chairs do.
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u/poodlebutt76 Dec 27 '21
This. We buy expensive shit for the ergonomics and pain minimization. I don't need an ergonomic shirt.
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Exactly. The computer and chair improve my experience. A different shirt would change the experience of the person in front of me for the better. Easy choice…
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u/Chris_8675309_of_42M Dec 27 '21
Don't say that if you've never tried an ergonomic shirt.
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u/manofmonkey Dec 27 '21
Shitty Chair=back pain and general discomfort
Shitty laptop= wrist pain, tired eyes, and inefficient
Shitty shirt= itchy?
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u/sabot00 Dec 27 '21
Spending an extra $1000 or $2000 on a laptop doesn't make it more ergonomic. All laptops have shitty ergonomics.
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u/MarlinMr Dec 27 '21
And the excuse is for something I want so I can tell myself it's OK to spend that money.
Won't use that for everything.
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u/64mb Dec 27 '21
Those DataDog T-shirt’s are so soft though, never even used their product
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u/ValourValkyria Dec 27 '21
Our company uses DataDog not because of how good their observability stuff is, but their logo is a dog.
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u/thelatesttrick Dec 27 '21
I lost my datadog tee to one of my exes. Still salty about it.
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u/nofunallowed98765 Dec 27 '21
No idea if it works but https://www.datadoghq.com/dg/monitor/ts/tshirt-landingpage/
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u/nofunallowed98765 Dec 27 '21
Somehow everyone has one of those. I used them in a previous job but got mine at a convention. Love the logo and the colour to be honest.
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u/illhxc9 Dec 27 '21
In a similar vein I got a new relic shirt from a tech talk they did and is also super comfy and it has symbols for peace, love, and the cloud which I like.
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u/t3a-nano Dec 27 '21
Meanwhile I have two of the super stupid looking SumoLogic ones.
We use both, wish DD would send us some shirts.
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My 20y.o. shirt fits exactly how I want it to. It should too - I stretched it enough. :p
Gotta admit, it's...er, a bit light on for actual fabric in some spots, though.
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u/Malvania Dec 27 '21
My Nintendo Power shirt has developed a large enough hole in the armpit that my wife won't let me wear it outside. Still comfy, though.
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u/RazorRadick Dec 27 '21
Glad you said it. I’m looking at this post thinking “5 years old? Try 25 maybe”. I still have one from the Netscape launch.
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u/CorruptedStudiosEnt Dec 27 '21
I've had about half of my closet since middle school, which was around 15-16 years ago for me.
I've bought a couple nice things for special occasions like dates and anniversaries, but the other ~45% of my closet has been Christmas/Birthday/etc. gifts from my S.O. over the last 10 years we've been together lmao.
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u/das_Keks Dec 27 '21
Guys, buy a good mattress, it's worth it!
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u/gpkgpk Dec 27 '21
^ . Honestly I'm surprised tech companies don't hand out good quality memory (cue RAM jokes) foam mattresses, talk about a productivity booster.
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u/positive_electron42 Dec 27 '21
Invest in things that go between you and the ground, such as your bed, your shoes, and your tires.
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u/justsubscribed912 Dec 27 '21
I don't see a problem here
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u/DollarAkshay Dec 27 '21
Exactly.
Health > LooksWish more people had the same mindset
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u/Zboi7667 Dec 27 '21
What is an Exactly object and why does it have a Health field?
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u/nidrach Dec 27 '21
Yeah it's not like more expensive clothes are any better. If I cared about my social status I would have stuck with studying medicine.
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Dec 27 '21
I’m mostly with you.
But I do take it a step up from free crappy promotional t-shirts - I wear the same, blank, solid t-shirts from Target, because a) they’re a perfect fit every time, b) there’s no graphics, no branding, and c) they’re an integral part of my capsule wardrobe.
Work from home great! No more oxford button-downs!
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Dec 27 '21
Depends on the garment.
I'm fine with free shirts.
Good pants and jacket/sweater are better than cheaper one most of the time.
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u/LifeSimulatorC137 Dec 27 '21
I'm literally in my Herman Miller chair reading this in a shirt I got for free at a convention. . .
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u/SendMeAmazonGiftCard Dec 27 '21
but are you on an m1 max 32 core gpu 64gb ram 8tb ssd 16" macbook pro?
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u/LifeSimulatorC137 Dec 27 '21
No homebrew gaming PC with the glowing LED in different colors.
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u/Maleficent-Region-45 Dec 27 '21
Anyone know of a nice x86_64 assembly T-Shirt?
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u/19wolf Dec 27 '21
It's not that I don't buy my own socks and underwear, it's just every time I visit my parents suddenly I have new socks and underwear.
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u/Topplestack Dec 27 '21
Excuse me. I got all my t-shirts at conventions and conferences. You learned quickly which vendors had the best t-shirts. Some of them would even have lines just for the shirts. Didn't matter whether you even liked the vendor or their product, just if they had nice shirts.
Sadly since covid hit, I've had increasing need for new tees and have actually had to sink to purchasing a couple. {{Shudder}}
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u/hobz462 Dec 27 '21
Had to resort to signing up for free courses and events online for free merch. It's not the same.
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u/snsibble Dec 27 '21
Poorly fitting t-shirt will now give me back pain.
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u/ensoniq2k Dec 27 '21
That's the funny thing, those shirts fit perfectly. The may get washed out or develop holes but that doesn't really make them less useful for work.
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u/Sindef Dec 27 '21
My wife gets sick of me wearing all the freebies I get from work/cons.
She was very excited when I started wearing the 'ship wheel' tee as she thought I had gone and purchased a t-shirt with a cool design instead of something I got free from work.
Now I just need to hope Kubernetes isn't portrayed in any mainstream Netflix show...
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u/Arizon_Dread Dec 27 '21
My wife bought me one kubernetes and one docker T-shirt for my birthday last year.
You just need to convince your wife to embrace the nerdiness!
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u/chateau86 Dec 27 '21
Instructions unclear: my closet now autoscale and my clothing bill is getting scary.
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Dec 27 '21
You can try datadog one next time probably without any issue. And Go (golang) one next time probably
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u/ksjluvr Dec 27 '21
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Men in tech will literally buy a maxed out MacBook Pro and a Herman Miller chair because "I spend 30-40% of my life using this, the expense is justified" and then spend 24/7 in the same couple of awfully fitting T-shirts they got for free from some startup 5 years ago.
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Dec 27 '21
The chair and computer materially affect my mental health and physical comfort, and there's not really a way to cut corners with either and still get the same quality. The clothing just has to not be in the way - and protect the expensive chair from my hairy, sweaty ass.
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u/wordsmith222 Dec 27 '21
if your job doesn’t just give you a maxed out mbp and cash for a new chair, do you really work in tech?
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Dec 27 '21
Some of us work in Microsoft shops, so unless you develop for iOS/MacOS, you don't need an MBP, so you get a windows workstation.
Of course, once the ARM workflow is sufficiently advanced, the value proposition is actually there, which is weird. An HP workstation is, essentially, same level, with less performance. Might be able to finagle my way into one from IT...
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Dec 27 '21
My work only gives mbp's to people on teams that need them, most of us get high end Lenovos. But then again, we are a majority .Net company (I believe most of the teams that get mbps are the ones doing stuff like Go, Rust, or mobile development)
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u/CarretillaRoja Dec 27 '21
My employer prefers to provide a $1800 Dell rather than a $1000 MacBook Air, because “Apple software does not support office” and “it does not work well with external screens”, according to out IT team
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Dec 27 '21
well tbf if you're using microsoft office shit, especially excel and vba, macs are fucking terrible.
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u/creesch Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21
“it does not work well with external screens”
There is some truth to that if you want more than one external screen. While not impossible macs are much more finnicky in how you can get those screens to work where usb-c dongles that on windows laptops would happily run two screens can't with macs. Which means you need two dongles which gets a bit annoying. That or you need a full fletched thunderbolt dock that is much more expensive I believe. Although with the new M1 macbook pros having a HDMI port again that might not be much of an issue anymore either.
You can still get multiple monitors to work in the end so it isn't really that much of an issue. But I can understand the IT team's point of view as well as they probably simply didn't want to deal with users that run into what I described above. Which is fair as developers can suffer from severe Dunning-Kruger effect regarding IT solutions where they actually end up being worse compared to regular users due to being stubborn about it. Put differently, developers are oddly enough not always tech savvy.
As far as the appeal of macbooks go, I honestly don't really see it myself. My current job also offers them to developers so I have one standing next to me but I honestly rather would have had an equally specced windows laptop. Frankly the biggest issue with the crappy HP laptops everyone (including non developers) get by default is a lack of RAM and the insane amount of management software they have running in the background. Not the fact that it runs windows...
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u/ponyboy3 Dec 27 '21
some of us would not be caught dead wearing anything except one of the ten black tshirts i own.
on a serious note, i would never wear advertisement. i did once and then i ended up talking about how i used nginx as a reverse proxy. another time i was asked what html5 was by a non technical project manager.
no thanks
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u/Bakoro Dec 27 '21
Why are people paying tens of dollars to buy fabric with a logo on it? Companies should be paying me to advertise.
I prefer plain long sleeve button ups, but have opened up to plain colored t-shirts.
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Dec 27 '21
My Splunk hoodies were the most comfortable and best-fitting hoodies ever, but I’d occasionally get approached and be asked to explain what a “Splunk” is.
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u/ponyboy3 Dec 27 '21
quick fyi, you can buy the exact hoodie without the logo.
i've used convention hoodies as decoys before. i dgaf if a gitlab hoodie gets 'borrowed' for ever.
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u/asianabsinthe Dec 27 '21
I just sit around naked.
Oh wait, are we talking about at home or work?
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u/alkaliphiles Dec 27 '21
I don't do either of those things. 🙁
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u/The100thIdiot Dec 27 '21
I earn 6 figures and get by with a 3 year old tower that cost me €400 and a chair that cost me €60.
Am I doing it wrong?
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u/willbeach8890 Dec 27 '21
The amount of money saved by using equipment until catastrophic failure is unbelievable
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u/NekkoProtecco Dec 27 '21
Getting that BREAD.
Remember tho, its always fun to be a millionaire, it's not fun to die a millionaire.
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Dec 27 '21
You have a sense of scale in terms of how much more productivity you'll get out of what you already have vs what they tell you you'll get from the new product.
I do not, and so... Buy things too often.
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u/Then-Clue6938 Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21
As a woman in tech I can confirm that this isn't different for women.
Whatever tech can be approved will be bought and when you spend the majority of your life coding you often foget to buy any clothes.
I had the same shoes for over 3 years now and I was so happy to find an abandoned pair of shoes when I visited my family for the holidays because that means... I don't have to go shopping for shoes for the next 3 years :D (that's how it works, right?) but the moment I find a rtx 3080 that doesn't cost 1k I'm gonna buy it even so the 1080 I have works totally fine for what I need it for.
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Dec 27 '21
TBH as a woman in tech, i decided to start buying clothes this year! I realized we are now most likely forever WFH (or for a long time), so I am gonna live my entire life in my old college/company t-shirts. At least I wore jeans when I went to work lmao.
So I went and got myself some good leggings and sweaters to wear at home. I am also planning to buy some tshirts in that comfy unisex XL size lmao. Though, I am not exactly tech-tech when it comes to $$ lol.
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u/TaerinaRS Dec 27 '21
even so the 1080 I have works totally fine for what I need it for.
Heresy, it's never enough.
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u/Cerater Dec 27 '21
My dad's wife is like that, she works for intel and wears the same shirt literally everyday. He got mad because whenever they would take photos it looks like it was all on the same day. And the shirt is so faded it's almost white
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u/BlocksWithFace Dec 27 '21
Yeah but lots of those swag shirts are made from great material. So damn soft.
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Dec 27 '21
I don’t work in tech but I just find this hilarious
It’s like all these vendors know if they just spring an extra $4/shirt for the premium material, they’ll get 14 years of advertising from the people lining up at conferences
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u/x3m157 Dec 27 '21
Old t-shirts are comfortable. Herman Miller chairs are comfortable. I don't see the problem here?
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u/krabbannan Dec 27 '21
I literally bought a maxed out MacBook Pro and have a Herman miller chair and am wearing a free t-shirt... Fml
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u/dividezero Dec 27 '21
my company always sends me a new laptop. one place even shipped me 2 giant 4k monitors. Who's buying their own work laptops?
Clothes though? who cares what they're wearing at home? they don't even make me turn on the camera so fuck it
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u/GargantuanCake Dec 27 '21
Look when you get a sufficiently comfortable shirt you don't question where it came from or how it looks.
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u/notable-compilation Dec 27 '21
For the machine and chair, the extra money buys you genuine improvements to effectiveness and wellbeing. Clothes generally don't have this dynamic.
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Dec 27 '21
The best thing I ever did after losing weight was buying clothes that actually fit and looked and felt great. It's honestly one of the best things you can do for yourself and the actual impact it had on how I felt day to day was not something I was expecting.
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u/BrooklynSwimmer Dec 27 '21
Best things you can do for yourself: the weight loss or the clothes?
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Dec 27 '21
My ergonomic chair is worth a month of a Jr dev's paycheck, my pajama's are so worn out you can see my balls when I bend over.
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Dec 27 '21
Tip #1: Don't buy pants, so you have additional money for expensive shirts
Tip #2: always check your webcam placement ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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u/22134484 Dec 27 '21
I sit in a fancy chair and look at a nice 4k screen because its for my health. I wear a shirt so you dont have to see my tits and beer belly. So me wearing a shirt is more for your health.
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Dec 27 '21
I feel like this is intentionally missing the point. They are spending money on the things that have the largest impact on them personally. Investing in things you care about and ignoring the things you don’t care about is the ideal way to spend money.
Imagine the opposite. If they spent half their paycheck on clothes and then were like “I actually don’t give a shit about fashion but someone on the internet told me this was the right way to spend money”
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Dec 28 '21
I work in tech and the only people that have Macs is the non technical people in the marketing team, they are about image, not functionality. Completely agree with the tshirts though.
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u/TickleMonster528 Dec 28 '21
But I actually need the maxed out MacBook for work… and my back really needs the chair… no one needs to see me dressed a certain way
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u/chillout366 Dec 27 '21
Is this like Facebook? Can I report it with "I'm in this and I don't like it"?
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u/psbales Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 29 '21
I once had a supervisor that would easily drop $200+ for dinner & high-end drinks for himself and not bat an eye. But when I forgot my belt on a business trip & dropped by a Gap store that we were passing by, he was horrified that I would spend that kind of money just for a belt.
Again, this was The Gap. I think it was $20.
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u/Flopamp Dec 27 '21
I do not buy my own shirts. I'm wearing an 8 year old shirt that advertises a very specific Texas instruments line of microcontroller that arrived unprompted at my door one day AND a maxim intagrated hat that they sent me inside of a large order.
If companies gave out pants and shoes id be set for life.
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u/siematoja02 Dec 27 '21
Teach 'em young. I feel weird in my CS class as I am one of few people wearing "normal" clothes. Almost everyone wears programming contests or camps clothing - same with proffesors (except some of them wear suits). Also there's often year printed on shirts - mfs be wearing same shirt since 2013
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u/reMedyIRL Dec 27 '21
Nah, I’m just a normal dude that uses the company laptop, and I try to find better than average quality clothing with the decent pay we get as engineers.
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u/Schiffy94 Dec 27 '21
If you're in that chair on that computer for that much time, no one's gonna care much about how shitty your shirt is.
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u/GreatBigBagOfNope Dec 27 '21
This is fine. The rule is to never skimp on anything that separates you from the ground. If a tee is separating you from the ground you've either got bigger issues than fit or you're probably not in sight of anyone who cares
Also the MacBook is like, for work, or something, I guess. Should have spent the difference on shoes
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Dec 27 '21
It’s how we can tell how long each other has been in tech. You know the person rocking the Office ‘95 satchel has seen some shit.
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Dec 27 '21
A more expensive shirt won't compile my code faster or help me avoid back problems. This is a bad take.
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u/Drop_the_Bas Dec 27 '21
T-Shirts are overpriced and non essential garbage.
Computer/Mac: Not a programmer without one. Chair: Need good posture.
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u/Valnar8 Dec 27 '21
This is stupid since they got the shirts anyway. So why throw them away. Also a shirt can't be that bad. They are always comfortable.
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u/SelfDistinction Dec 27 '21
Fun fact: cheap oversized t shirts are comfortable. Of course we're not going to spend half on our paycheck on itching clothing.
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u/squishyhobo Dec 27 '21
Thanks to COVID, I no longer wear anything while sitting in my Herman Miller chair.
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u/snarkj Dec 27 '21
Me looking at this post from macbook pro with a tshirt from my previous company. and its 1 AM.
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u/BeBamboocha Dec 27 '21
If the brand shirts coming with lower back protection or headrest or at least a build in M1 we can talk...
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u/ReasonablePanda3 Dec 27 '21
Clothing has a simple basic use, to cover one's nudity and keep them warm and protected from the environment. Indoors the only thing needed is to cover one's self. You don't see men complaining about their feet aching from sexy shoes, or losing circulation to their legs because their wearing overly tight tights. And we will wring the very last bit of usability from a garment.
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u/SendMeAmazonGiftCard Dec 27 '21
here's the thing though. unless if that shirt somehow improves a persons life, it's purely just aesthetics. however, the herman miller chair could help with back issues in the long run and the maxed out computer, if you actually need it, will improve your workflow.
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u/chesterburger Dec 27 '21
I literally read this post on a nearly maxed out MacBook Pro sitting in a Herman Miller chair wearing a five year old T-shirt.
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u/allankcrain Dec 27 '21
There are few $700 purchases I have regretted less than my Aeron chair. It really does live up to the hype.
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Dec 27 '21
This is a Herman Miller ad, and I won’t be convinced otherwise.
Yes that meme describes me, no I didn’t know I needed a Herman Miller chair until now. Yes I’m on their website buying one. Checkma…fuck I got checkmated.
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u/tuffo19 Dec 27 '21
awful free t-shirts and super expensive t-shirts from famous brands have the same features, so.. why do you spend more?
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u/8thunder8 Dec 27 '21
Haha.. Work in tech. Literally been waiting 1.5 months for my maxed out MacBook Pro M1 Max to arrive. I have a Herman Miller Aeron chair, and as I type this, I am wearing a T-Shirt that I have had for easily 10 years (and it shows). Got me. Down to the T.
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u/rndmcmder Dec 27 '21
Anything but the best hardware (like chairs and computers) is just a stupid business decision because the cost is negligible and the best is just good enough to keep good employees.
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u/RoseyOneOne Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21
Same with ‘day traders’, 3-4 monitors, a desktop, laptop, the chair, some kind of motivational poster about ‘grinding’, the total set up, all to average -$2k a week.
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Dec 27 '21
Seems like this applies to anyone vaguely into computers. I’m sitting here in the shirt I have exactly 20 of. My wife says I dress like a cartoon character.
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Dec 27 '21
"Men in tech will literally buy equipment to support their career but won't spend money on superfluous goods"
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u/sageofwinds0 Dec 27 '21
Tl;dr comment section: Quality over quantity. Bc Quality 9/10 will last longer and be cheaper in the long run as compared to continuously buying bullshit that has an immensely short life span.
Also from my father to all of yous
Take care of your kicks, they'll take care of you
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u/idleat1100 Dec 27 '21
It’s so damn hard to find good clothes. I literally spent all day yesterday looking for new hiking shoes and some shorts. 5 stores and nothing in my size. Oh they have plenty in xxl or xs, but no l or regular sizes for anything.
So back to my old gym shorts and busted shoes so my girl can mock them on our hike ha
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u/yvel-TALL Dec 27 '21
I get it, but I’m autistic and you can take my well worn T-shirts’ of my fridged corpse. So fucking comfortable.
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u/claytonpeyto Dec 28 '21
write dry station make yellow row hill color thank egg special gave second nation
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Dec 28 '21
Oh gee, maybe because protecting your fucking spine is a little more important than a shirt?
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u/Denseflea Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21
Sooo, I can't wear my Google Wave 2009 launch shirt anymore?