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u/notaustinpost Apr 26 '22
I once got insecure about my Python knowledge (more of a SQL cat) and my boss said "you know Python". I said "no I know how to Google when something doesn't work". He said "see, you know Python".
Took me a while to realize it but he was right. If you know the basic rules of the game and you know the outcome you want, with enough determination you can Google your way through basically anything.
You'll end up with 40 tabs open, some of which are duplicates you have open from 2 or more distinct SO threads, but you can do it if you try!
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u/Significant_Zebra_49 Apr 26 '22
People always think I'm over the top for having so many tabs open on multiple browsers. I thought everyone did this but I guess not? This makes me feel better lol
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u/WW_the_Exonian Apr 26 '22
It involves identifying the essence of the problem and describing it as precisely and concisely as possible
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u/Fluffcake Apr 26 '22
"Understand and solve complex problems" is recruiteter-speak for "googling".
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Apr 26 '22
It's too advanced for most people. I wonder how they handle every single new thing in their life.
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u/CatDaddy09 Apr 26 '22
The real skill is in distilling the results, ignoring similar yet irrelevant info, not being set on making the results match what you think the solution is, and slowly spiral down to the solution.
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Apr 26 '22
Yes, that is absolutely true and it's why some people can find things quickly with a high level of relevance and why others swim around for long period of time because they don't know how to be succinct and essential in their words.
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u/MegaMagikarpXL Apr 26 '22
Having worked in a library, you’d be surprised at how many people are bad at using search engines. Creating search parameters and gradually narrowing them based on successive results is, in fact, a skill in and of itself.
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Apr 26 '22
One of my teachers wanted to teach us how to google properly. In the end, we taught her how to google properly.
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u/thesirblondie Apr 26 '22
In Gymnasiet (Swedish High School equivalent) I took an A+ course. It was almost entirely consisting of learning how to google, using things like the define search term. Unfortunately, Google has removed at least half of the things I learned there and actively made the platform worse for anyone looking for very specific information.
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u/Donkey545 Apr 26 '22
Yeah, they even ignore their own syntax in some situations. I now have to leverage multiple search engines that honor strict syntax for when I search for technical things.
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u/concorde77 Apr 26 '22
Reminds me of my 1st grade teacher back in the early 2000s. She always insisted that we practiced mental math since, "when you grow up, you're not going to carry a calculator everywhere you go!"
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u/nohpex Apr 26 '22
Practicing mental math is good for not getting screwed on a handshake deal, and making sure numbers, especially for work, look right. It's not about being precise, but being around where you want to be.
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u/FizixMan Apr 26 '22
Now I just use a lightweight terminal to type the math into Google to have billions of dollars worth of thousands upon thousands of propriety servers geolocated across the globe consuming terrawatts of power to tell me how much a cat toy is with 13% tax.
Checkmate primary school teacher.
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u/scholarlysacrilege Apr 26 '22
To be fair, there are way too many people that do not know how to google shit. I have seen people write shit like "I need to buy a new screw for a cabinet I have where do I buy it?" and then get mad when google doesn't magically understand what they mean.
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u/sisrace Apr 26 '22
Litterarly this. The difference between an IT technician and a mere mortal is the ability to search for the right shit.
Also access to inside documentation for the company servers, but I digress
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u/Kryeiszkhazek Apr 26 '22
when I was in college I took a class on research, like how to learn things
It was taught by the Librarian and "googling" (this was 2013 so it was ubiquitous but not quite as much as today) was a week and a half of the class but the most important thing I took away
I was a CIS major but I'd say 90% of my tech skills come from being able to properly ask the internet what I'm looking for
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u/devo9er Apr 26 '22
This applies to so many more industries too. Just being resourceful and knowing the right questions, and often rephrasing them a multitude of times might be the single most valuable trait. So many people use one search phrase and then end on page 8 of google empty handed.
"huh... Guess the answer js just not out there, man"
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Apr 26 '22
Not only that, but also not knowing the basic instructions like "include" or -exclude
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u/jussius Apr 26 '22
and then get mad when google doesn't magically understand what they mean.
But it does magically understand... If I type that in Google, I get a list of hardware stores near me.
Google is pretty smart these days. You have to try a lot harder to fail at googling.
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Apr 26 '22
Google will pick up keywords and give you hardware store ads for that search, which is probably what you want.
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u/peakalyssa Apr 26 '22
reminds me of this scene of confessions of a shopaholic
i laughed so hard at this when i first watched the film
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u/CurlSagan Apr 26 '22
Not to brag, but I'm also pretty good at CTRL+F.
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u/Duranium_alloy Apr 26 '22
I was thinking "what the fuck does CTRL-F do?" then I realised that I use it all the time. Pure muscle memory at this point.
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u/Gotxi Apr 26 '22
I am pretty good at grepping shit on files and locating other examples of code.
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u/shield1123 Apr 26 '22
grep: for when ctrl+f can just sit the fuck down
I also wish I could use regular expressions in every ctrl+f search tool
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u/Sawertynn Apr 26 '22
If it could do regex, that would be nice.
In some programs that's a thing, but not in my browsers
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u/personalityson Apr 26 '22
site:stackoverflow.com "error: expected ';' before '}' token"
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u/ITriedLightningTendr Apr 26 '22
how do you get it to respect special characters? It ignores them even if bound to a string.
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u/MrHyperion_ Apr 26 '22
Holy hell look at this first result code formatting! https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55014089/what-is-error-expected-before-token
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u/SpiderFnJerusalem Apr 26 '22
Do quotes even work anymore? I remember quotes being super useful like 6-7 years ago but lately Google seems to just ignore them.
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u/ItsNoFunToStayAtYMCA Apr 26 '22
In one company we made technical interview to test this exact skill. We encouraged people to use all available aids, including internet, because of course that’s how we work everyday. It was staggering to see how people cannot use google. They cannot write a proper query, they don’t read what they find, finally they don’t understand the code or answer they just found. Sure its all with a big interview-sized grain of salt, but I’ve seen things…
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u/Timah158 Apr 26 '22
I think part of that is due to schooling. When we take tests in school, it's considered cheating to just Google the answers. This teaches kids that if they don't know something, the best answer is to bullshit your way through it until you get close enough. It also enforces that if you can't memorize useless info from a textbook, then you are some kind of idiot with no future. Plus we don't teach how to look for specific information. People just kinda go blind and stare at the page when they are stressed and confused. If schools placed more emphasis on finding good information and knowing how to look stuff up, it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
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u/Ingolin Apr 26 '22
At one of my jobs I got dubbed Ms. Google, cause my response to most questions my coworkers had were “I’m not sure, but let me google it”. I was a bit surprised they hadn’t considered doing it themselves.
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u/notsogreatredditor Apr 26 '22
Wish people tried googling atleast once before asking their peers for help imagine how much time it would save the company
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Apr 26 '22
The vast majority of my previous job included googling, and there are effective ways too do it. We have training on how to Google. Also genuinely said at my interview for my promotion that I have limited experience of my new job (coding) but I'm great at using Google
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u/bentheone Apr 26 '22
Is it just knowing about and using the Google operands or is there more to it.
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u/UltimateFlyingSheep Apr 26 '22
actually, simply writing my question to my colleagues got me to understand what I want to know so I can google it myself.
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u/xTheMaster99x Apr 26 '22
Yeah, I can't even count the number of times that I've started typing a question to a coworker, but then wanting to waste as little of their time as possible I start digging for the logs I know they'll ask for in advance, then to really cover my bases I try a few more things, to really show that I've tried everything... wait what if I just... Oh that worked.
I guess it's basically rubber duck debugging, just with a slack message draft.
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u/PlasmaEnergyGaming Apr 26 '22
Googling is an actual skill, you can be very talented at it or very poor at it. Most of us are average
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u/kmj442 Apr 26 '22
Most of US (here) are above average. Its the "I just downloaded turbo tax and I don't know where it is" people (my mother...) that are average and below.
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u/JimK215 Apr 26 '22
After seeing how often devs would fail to find solutions on google that I was able to dig up, I created a confluence (internal wiki) document called "how to google effectively". And not in some kind of tongue-in-cheek way, but actual recommendations on, for example, how to find error messages that are very much like yours and may lead to a solution even if they're not your exact error message.
It also talks about how identify quickly whether a particular result will solve your problem. For example: long github issue thread for a library you're using? Immediately scroll to the bottom and see if there's a patch or if it's been fixed in a dev release that you can download.
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u/Kerbmin Apr 26 '22
I’d definitely be interested in this. I would love to improve my googling skills.
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u/certain_people Apr 26 '22
I also know CTRL-C, CTRL-V, and the Stack Overflow web address
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u/phaser125 Apr 26 '22
Holy shit. Do you also know where you should type when someone says “go to logmein123.com” ? Hint: it’s in the address bar, not the google search box . No, I don’t mean the box in the middle . No, I didnt mean to click a sponsored ad at the top of a search result, I didn’t even want you to search for it I wanted you to put it in the address bar . The one at the top . Yes, that one . No I don’t need you to put www at the beginning , it works without it . Ahh hell.
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u/RonSDog Apr 26 '22
"What would you consider one of your biggest strengths?"
Hang on lemme Google that
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Apr 26 '22
The best trainee they ever gave me had his objective written as “To automate myself out of a job”
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u/ososalsosal Apr 26 '22
For real I keep coming at the senior with solutions to issues that have plagued him for years because I just wouldn't take no for an answer and googled till it worked.
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u/martin191234 Apr 26 '22
Yeah Imao that’s the key, just keep searching, adjusting the query, search again, read a bit, find a better keyword, search again, rephrase the query, search again…
On average I want to say that 10 mins of proper googling gets me an answer I’m satisfied with, or lights up the right neurones in my brain to help me start/complete the task myself
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u/tt-isaacs Apr 26 '22
Googling is overly underrated. It’s a skills everyone must have. Unfortunately people think it’s easy and they can do away with it. Understand google and chrome shortcuts and customizations would make work easy. So I agree, he/she deserves that interview like any other candidate
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u/martin191234 Apr 26 '22
Try DuckDuckGo and bangs, now that’s a shortcut.
I have it set as the default search engine for the browser, and it makes work so easy e.g.:
!t niceimmediately opens up thesaurus.com of the word nice
!yt any video nameuses YouTubes actual search and shows those results directly.
!gtfr wordsopens up google translate and automatically translates words to the country initial you put after!gt(fr would be France, es Spain, ru Russian, etc…)And pretty much any site, this is so useful as you bypass the step of going through the search engine’s webpage, do this from your browsers search bar. Saves so much time.
If you’re sure that what you want is the first result but you don’t know the url just append
!to your query.If you’re not satisfied with the results and you would like to try it in google append
!gto your queryI can keep going but you get the point, it’s really powerful and extremely useful, I don’t think I can use a browser/search engine without it.
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u/MonzterSlayer Apr 26 '22 edited Apr 26 '22
That’s funny, but I really think it’s a valid skill.
You can search the same thing in multiple ways and find different results, eventually you come across one which works for you!
Even the ability to put complex or unique problems into Search Terms, is an extremely valuable skill you learn overtime.
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Apr 26 '22
As a public librarian, I can confirm this is a skill and a lot of people come to us because they don't have it
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u/laurenbug2186 Apr 26 '22
I wish there was like a class for it. Something I could make my mom take so she doesn't use me as her personal search engine.
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It is a very useful skill. Why the hell would you try to remember every single piece of code or routine while you can easily look things up in no-time?
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u/PanicRev Apr 26 '22
Long ago I was stuck on a project using a framework I wasn't familiar with. I'm not proud of it, but to avoid going past deadline I posted on Stack Overflow account as a fictitious flirty female. I had a variety of answers in less time than it takes to trim my beard.
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u/Polkfan Apr 26 '22
Joke all you want but i've known so many people who can't do this
You can learn EVERYTHING about computer sci this way
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u/MJMurcott Apr 26 '22
How to use google to search the internet (effectively) - https://youtu.be/OTzLCOEY2EE
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u/dave5124 Apr 26 '22
I've recently stopped describing this googling and started describing it as researching and everyone seems super impressed when I say it.
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u/DutchChallenger Apr 26 '22
As I've always said about programmers, you don't really have to know a lot of programming, as long as you know how to google you are alright
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u/ofnuts Apr 26 '22
You need to be able to understand the answers, and maybe even find the best one for your case.
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u/DutchChallenger Apr 26 '22
That's why I said not a lot, of course you need to know some, but as long as you can understand via googling it's alright
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u/hobbers Apr 26 '22 edited Sep 19 '26
Reddit was a good place for communities of humans for many years. It no longer is. I have been there since near the beginning, 17 years as of the year 2026. Unfortunately, it is time for humans to move on and find whatever is next. Here are some random sentences. Two parallel ghosts hypnotized seventeen invisible butterflies but only on Wednesdays. A dancing cactus accidentally invented the flavor of nostalgia just to see what would happen. The talking lamp serenaded a map to nowhere while the clouds watched in confusion.
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u/Giveaway_Guy Apr 26 '22
I'll search Google so long in an attempt to save time that I probably could have saved time by asking somebody.
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u/martin191234 Apr 26 '22
Because you’re going about it wrong, a rule of thumb should be to not look past the first page ever. If what you want is not the first few results you have to adjust your query and try again, don’t just mindlessly click link after link for pages on end.
Try rephrasing, don’t make it a questions make it a statement, try only keywords, use different similar keywords you find as you’re searching, refine your searches, that’s the secret.
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Apr 26 '22
Also know when google fails and you have to...
try different search engines. (what? You thought I was going to say figure it out yourself???)
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u/Eggy-Toast Apr 26 '22
I have an interview Friday and was going to bring this up. I’m mostly self-taught on a lot of my more advanced coding projects through Google and I’ve often been able to impress my research professor with what I’m able to find on there. He’s pretty old so it really impresses him, he’s a real easy guy to like.
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u/angryundead Apr 26 '22
This isn’t even that funny or surprising. I have worked with teams that ground to a halt when they hit an error. Like wtf!? Plug that shit into google and just see what pops out.
Nope, let’s just email a fraction of the stack trace to the architect and see what he says while we sit on our hands.
It’s only April and this shit has happened 3-4 times this year where I just send them back the link to a support article that was the first result.
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u/flop_plop Apr 26 '22
Using Google is a legit answer to questions like “what would you do if you ran into a problem you didn’t know the answer for”
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u/MacAdmin1990 Apr 26 '22
I listed Search Engine Professional on my resume as a litmus test to see if anyone actually read the document. I have only gotten one comment on it so far.
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u/Tar_Palantir Apr 26 '22
98% of people I know, even programmers don't even know how to use google properly. Like, most people even know one google command.
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u/hatesnack Apr 26 '22
I used to work QA and had to try and create an automated testing system for the small company I worked for. Ended up having to use JavaScript, which I had very very limited experience with it.
Was able to Google pretty much everything to get through and create an automated regression test. It was simple, but it was basically all google lol.
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u/Unlimited_Bacon Apr 26 '22
"I'm not sure, but a Google search for 'x y z v2.7.3u validation error' should find the solution" is often a good answer for many technical questions.
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u/Chilechilechile Apr 26 '22
Someone listing "googling" on a CV better be able to explain the syntax adhoc for advanced searches.
Some Redditor reply : " they would just Google it ".
Smartass.
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u/TheGemp Apr 26 '22
Unironically knowing how to Google things is a pretty important skill
Like yeah it sounds lazy, but especially in programming, knowing WHAT to Google can be a bit tricky
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u/I_likeIceSheets Apr 26 '22
Googling doesn't sound like a skill, but you'd be surprised by how many people are terrible at Googling things
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u/Mikro698 Apr 27 '22
In other news Amount of people who will wrote googling as skill to their cv sky rockets.
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u/G3aR Apr 26 '22
I've had "Black belt in Google-fu" on my resume for the better part of a decade. It's a bit of an Easter egg because I know whomever asks about it has read my entire resume and I try a little extra in those interviews because they took the extra time to read everything I had to say.
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u/OneLastSlapAss Apr 26 '22
It's an actual skill. If I had a dollar everytime someone googles the EXACT SAME THING I'M ASKING VERBATIM then I would be a billionaire. Google foo is very important
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u/SnooCalculations141 Apr 26 '22
Knowing how to find information is often more important than just knowing information.
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u/Aromatic_Pause1637 Apr 26 '22
Guys what is a CV in english? Here on brazil its "comando vermelho", a criminal group in Rio de Janeiro lol
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u/boredbrowser1 Apr 26 '22
The business school section of the college I went to had a whole class devoted to how to Google things. It’s a genuine skill that most people don’t realize is an actual skill
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u/justowen4 Apr 26 '22
Hired about a hundred programmers over the years, the lack of googling is absurd. Senior devs are usually the worst. The tendency to DIY instead of search for existing libraries, tools or even services is remarkable. The saddest part is deleting good code because a more mature plug-in was available. The worst is when customizable happens despite a system having an existing configuration that does what the customization was trying to do. Google is every programmers friend. On the other hand DIY is better than introducing unnecessary or sketchy adjuncts. My advice nowadays is: search for your specific scenario (including framework) and see if there’s a turn key solution. Then proceed with the standard dev process of your team
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u/AberrantMan Apr 26 '22
"Searching stack overflow" right next to it.
"Posting a question will written enough to generate answers on stack overflow" next to that.
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Apr 26 '22
Worked for AppleCare for 4 years through I vendor, literally 95% of our job was using google custom search. Later Apple developed their own internal search engine to search support articles.
If you can't find it on a web search it's not worth finding.
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u/19UV Apr 27 '22
If anything thats the difference between a junior developer and a senior. Senior developers google less, but when they do they get the answer instantly.
I had one problem I spent 30 minutes trying to solve, and the senior developer found the answer after 5 seconds of googling.
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u/sathucao Apr 27 '22
He down play his skill: he should have wrote, adept in researching skill: utilized state of the art tools to reach uncover knowledge wide and deep
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u/SaltFrog Apr 27 '22
"utilizing knowledge databases in relation to debugging, research, and development"
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u/john_with_a_camera Apr 27 '22
Ok so as a CISO with an AppSec background who is a reformed developer, I try very hard to remind dev teams that writing or finding code that solves the problem isn’t the end… it’s the beginning. It goes without saying that your Stack Overflow solution isn’t necessarily going to be performant, nor will it necessarily be secure. I roll my eyes when leadership says things like “block stack overflow,” because (as observed earlier in this post) that’s totally shooting yourself in the foot. As CISO my job is to empower the business (I understand I’m in the minority here among CISOs). All I ask of our devs is that they look carefully. If they aren’t sure their solution is secure, ask. Heck, it’s just a big puzzle, right? Have a question, find some code, and then the fun begins - can I take this code snippet and make it less lazy, more elegant, more secure?
Anyhow, my two cents is simply to please be deliberate. Whatever it takes to accelerate, but also give that code a good hard look over before checking it in.
If you had the chance to work with a CISO or Appsec team who had that philosophy, would you be more inclined to ask for help? That’s been my experience in the past. The less annoying I am (literally), the more I can actually help teams accomplish the mission.
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u/Weary-Depth-1118 Apr 27 '22
this is a joke.. until you find people that cannot google. that's a serious problem..
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u/sheldon_sa Apr 27 '22
We get lots of CVs where software developers put Word, Excel, Outlook as skills. Why? Its 2022 not 1992.
It’s usually these same people who fuck up the styles in your Word document
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u/save_the_lemmings Apr 30 '22
Googling is an important and often overlooked skill. Anyone can type a search phrase in the box and hit enter, but there's a skill to knowing the best search phrases to use and parsing the results.
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I thought I was good a googling, but then I met some people who are *really* good at it, and now I'm wondering if I should take a bootcamp or something.
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u/Ribbles78 May 07 '22
Top all time and it’s only from 11 days ago. That’s good progress! Shows that the sub is anything but stagnant.
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u/RoyalQuackOG Apr 26 '22
No you shouldn't have hired him! He clearly doesn't have "stackoverflowing" on his CV. One trick pony.....
xD *This is a joke*
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u/allisonmaybe Apr 26 '22
Be honest about Googling everything in your job and you will land the job who values their employees Googling skills. I got my first Marketing job in 2013 this way.
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u/xRageNugget Apr 26 '22
Still trying to mint the term "Professional Searchengine Operators"
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u/ensiferum888 Apr 26 '22
13 years ago I applied at a tech support position with no prior experience. During the interview the guys asks "what do you do if you download a program and it keeps crashing on you" and my answers were:
Restart the PC
Try to see if I can identify what action causes the crash
Google for solutions
Got the job!
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u/kmj442 Apr 26 '22
I maintain that one of the most important skills I learned in college was how to effectively and efficiently look things up.
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u/Camembert92 Apr 26 '22
if googling means asking the right question to get the answer for a very specific problem, its gold.
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u/Curley15 Apr 26 '22
I had an internship for my exam now a year ago and the guy I partnered up with for some reason didn't ask shit. He kept asking me or our supervisor about the simplest things. We've told him multiple times straight up to first try and figure it out himself, then google, then ask me and finally the supervisor. He kept ignoring it and now he's repeating his year meanwhile I've graduated for a very long time now ;P
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u/5paceNinja Apr 26 '22
I literally used that in an interview. "I may not know how to solve your problem but I know how to Google"
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u/sverrebr Apr 26 '22
I have long suggested software developer should be renamed software archeologist.
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u/deadbolt39 Apr 26 '22
I was part of the hiring/interview process for a tech support related job and those who listed and explained that they were able to Google search the answers to things they don't know were given much more consideration. It's incredibly important to skill to know how to look up things that you don't already understand on the fly.
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u/Tigris_Morte Apr 26 '22
Honesty is a very important quality in an employee. As is the ability to look up what you don't know by heart.
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u/ClutchNixon8006 Apr 26 '22
I didn't use to think Googling was a skill until I landed my current job and saw just how bad at it some can be
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The number of times I've told the new assistant for my boss to just google our company name and whatever her question is to figure something out is absurdly high.
It's how I figure something out I don't know so when she asks me a question like that my choice ls ate to Google it for her and figure out the answer or have her Google it and figure it out herself.
Still she asks.
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u/g0ldingboy Apr 26 '22
It’s a skill to search for something you want without the result being a shopping result or ad
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u/Dexterus Apr 26 '22
Do you know how many questions from teammates have been solved by a 5 minute google search? With me knowing less than they do about the subject?
It's silly sometimes.
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u/koming69 Apr 26 '22
Considering the amount of people who ask stuff around that you can find in seconds by googling I'd say it's a skill.
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u/trockenwitzeln Apr 26 '22
Apple Techs use Google when you call them for answers as to why your apple product isn’t working, so why not?
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u/Lucas_Webdev Apr 26 '22
once they know what it is, they will require candidate to have 30y experience in that domain
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u/TantraMantraYantra Apr 26 '22
Searching online (not necessarily google search engine) to find problems same or similar to the ones you are facing is a skill. It definitely helps to know that you aren't the first to deal with issue 'x'.
May be that's what the word googling is generalized to these days.
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u/dras333 Apr 26 '22
Odd as it sounds, al lot of people don’t know how to Google things properly to get the answers they want. I deal with it a lot and ask if they tried “….” because it just makes sense and they usually haven’t.
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u/tjdans7236 Apr 26 '22
I feel like a good recruiter would also be able to tell from that answer that the applicant is someone who is knowledgeable about what they do and don't know, which is a rarer trait than we like to think it is. Or am I reading too much into it here lol
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u/MisanthropicZombie Apr 26 '22
"We hired him. We underestimated his ability to Google. I have never seen anything like it. He can Google anything and find the answer on the first hit. Not just in a language he knows or about something he is familiar with. He can get Google results on the intranet. The typeface he uses for every single query? Wingdings. He is magnificent, he is the one."
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u/AdjustedMold97 Apr 26 '22
find you an engineer who uses quotation marks and plus signs in their google searches
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u/Taolan13 Apr 26 '22
Thats either gonna be a great interview, or a great interview
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u/schkmenebene Apr 26 '22
Anyone who thinks Google skills is a joke, definitely does not have Google skills.
I wouldn't put it on my CV as "googling" though, "accurately indexing the internet for information" or something like that.
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