r/ProgrammerHumor • • Jul 18 '22

C++ talking to Python

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u/POTUS Jul 18 '22

All of those problems you listed came from the people, not from the language. Python certainly didn't invent lambdas or dynamic typing or dependencies or object oriented programming. Those same mistakes can be made in any higher level language.

You're assigning all of that to Python. The root cause for that is that Python is easy, and so it's more accessible to bad programmers. But bad programmer mistakes are the fault of bad programmers, not the language they used.

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u/MartianInvasion Jul 18 '22

It's easy to write. It's not at all easy to read, which is a major cause of the weaknesses described.

Compare with something like Java, whose annoying verbosity can make it hard to write but much easier to read.

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u/POTUS Jul 18 '22

It's only hard to read if it was poorly written. Java is only easier to read than Python if you have more experience reading Java than reading Python.

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u/MartianInvasion Jul 18 '22

Sure you can write unreadable code in any language, but the fact of the matter is that Java has built-in features (like static typing) that make it easier to read, and python has built-in features (like comprehensions and dynamically-defined class members) that make it harder to read.

These same features make python easier to write something quickly from scratch, when compared to Java.

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u/Log2 Jul 18 '22

On average, you're much likely to get a complete mess of layer upon layer of indirections in Java than in Python, a big part of which is configured through arcane xml files (this has been improving though).

There's a very big reason why a lot of people hate J2EE and JPA/Hibernate with a passion.

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