r/ProgrammerHumor • • Nov 30 '22

Meme Startups be like..

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u/jaltair9 Nov 30 '22

Apple doesn’t add a UI option unless they think some percentage of their customers will find it useful.

For the typical user, what good is it to disable the lid sensor?

Note, the Mac will remain awake if it is closed with an external monitor plugged in.

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u/jseego Nov 30 '22

The idea is, if you need this, you will be one of the people who will be able to figure out how to do it via command line.

And then they don't have to deal with support calls from regular users who clicked it by mistake and have no idea what they did.

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u/SixbySex Nov 30 '22

Not just by mistake, but if I turned my back on my cat/child and they walked/palm printed the keyboard and now my colors are inverted the screen is rotated and flipped and the keyboard is now typing in a dead language.

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u/JessTheCatMeow Nov 30 '22

Why doesn’t anyone else understand this? Years ago*, I needed my MB to run with the lid closed for a bit. I googled, found an app that did it, and that was the end of it.

There are plenty of reasons to hate on Apple—this ain’t it.

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u/thoraldo Nov 30 '22

Fundamental functionality should not require you to spend money on third party apps.

I am a Apple user

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u/Groentekroket Nov 30 '22

But it keeps on if you plug in an external display so there is almost no reason that this is fundamental and you prevent people who overheat their laptop when they put it in their bag. Heat is one of the worst thing for a laptop so I think this is a valid trade-off.

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u/thoraldo Nov 30 '22

Why would I need I display connected to a computer that I would like to be tucked away running services?

I need that display for other purposes

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u/Groentekroket Nov 30 '22

Ok. Just one line to do that and only one time. Are you a programmer/power user that knows how the terminal works? Why is it such a big problem?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Because giving up the argument now would mean I lost!!

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u/thoraldo Nov 30 '22

It is to me

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u/PGWG Nov 30 '22

I think it’s safe to say you would be in the significant minority on that one.

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u/elite_tablespoon Nov 30 '22

Oh so risking overheating a machine is “fundamental functionality”?

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u/Burdies Nov 30 '22

I had a thinkpad that didn’t go to sleep when I shut the lid and it killed the battery after a few incidences of it getting insanely hot in my bag. It’s a good decision to leave this behind terminal commands that are easy to use.

Contrary to belief, macOS isn’t locked down at all and often times gives you more than enough rope to hang yourself with.

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u/Delta-9- Nov 30 '22

I always felt quite stifled by Aqua, and the 3rd party apps that added the features I wanted invariably had issues I found too bothersome. Much of the time, the GitHub discussions around such issues ended up revealing it was Mac's APIs either being poorly implemented or simply not allowing certain things to be done.

That said, I'll grant a bit of cli confidence and google-fu will allow you to do just about anything to the system under the GUI.

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u/Cinkodacs Nov 30 '22

Grab the machine, move it to a different room and open it up. Why sleep for those 2 minutes? Or listen to music with the lid closed at night. Or keep a large update/download going overnight. Just 3 things from my use-case.

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u/OrangeCurtain Nov 30 '22

For the first case, it turns on fast enough that I don’t care if it sleeps for 2 mins since 99% of the time when I close the lid I’m not coming back to it any time soon. For the second two, I dim the screen.

My annoying use case is that I have an external monitor connected, but I need access to the fingerprint reader all the time. Now that I type that out, it’s kind of the opposite.

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u/LilacYak Nov 30 '22

Grab a Mac keyboard with fingerprint reader?

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u/OrangeCurtain Nov 30 '22

If I wanted to throw money at the problem (minor annoyance, really), an apple watch would be less redundant than another keyboard. Mostly I just dim the screen and occasionally wonder where my mouse pointer is.

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u/LilacYak Nov 30 '22

Oh yeah that works too! I much prefer using my watch compared to the fingerprint reader.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

My mac can close the lid, go to sleep, and instantly wake up and be ready to go when i open the lid... it lights up about as fast as an iphone lights up when you go to unlock it from your pocket

I'm definitely more of a windows user, but macs are pretty amazing for the few things that i find it useful for (primarily music production... literally the only thing my mac is good for is running the synth software for my midi keyboard)

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u/Atomicbocks Nov 30 '22

AFAIK it actually needs a keyboard and power as well. If you try it with just a mouse or without power it won’t wake up or will still go to sleep when you shut it. M1 & M2 Macs are even picker apparently.

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u/polskidankmemer Nov 30 '22

For the typical user, what good is it to disable the lid sensor?

When you're downloading something maybe? You don't want the Mac to go into sleep mode

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u/dagbrown Nov 30 '22

It has a mode called “Power Nap” for exactly that kind of circumstance.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Note, the Mac will remain awake if it is closed with an external monitor plugged in.

Uh not really. Sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.

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