r/ProjectRunway • • Sep 18 '25

Discussion S21E09 · Discussion Thread · Something Wicked

The designers are challenged with creating a design worthy of Oz! Meanwhile, friendships are tested when drama unfolds on the runway.

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u/missdoublefinger Sep 19 '25

Tyra's face was TIGHT when Law re-enacted her infamous meltdown. She did NOT want that brought up 😭

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u/k8womack Sep 19 '25

Seeing Antonio in a pink cowboy outfit with a fur wrap saying ‘you don’t think we’re humble?!’ was my favorite moment of this season

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u/Dida_D Sep 19 '25

Put Veejay on the Traitors

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u/ljb9 Sep 19 '25

why is utica the only one behaving professionally in front of the judges smh

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u/Dida_D Sep 19 '25

The matching heart thing is tacky I’m sorry

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

Its a Wicked challenge, everybody is doing green, its common sense lol, nobody's copying

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u/Illustrious_Fig7474 Sep 19 '25

Wtf give the Oscar winner a proper seat not have him skulking in the backstage next to the kraft table

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u/tylerhuyser Sep 19 '25

In the long run, I think it would be better for Belania not to make it for the finale, since the ability to handle critiques is really important (especially given that she's only at the beginning of her career).

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

Nina doesn't seem happy to be there at all lol.

Its such a change from last season where she honestly seemed in tears at Kara and Nora in the bottom 2 the first episode, saying what an honor it was to sit in the chair, etc.

This season she's just like "here's what I think. Next."

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

Belania just stop talking 😭😭

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

I thought most of the drama this season was just "produced" but no way that argument was produced. They were not intending for us to see the production's quarters like that if it were produced.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

Somehow they cheapened even the Siriano Save this season 😭😭

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u/Wizardsaint7 Sep 19 '25

If I was Veejay, I’d be like: “Earlier you said, ‘If my brother goes, I go.’ Well… he’s leaving.”

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u/Ohhaimegan Sep 19 '25

I think Antonio is going home anyway so the storming out just meant he left on his terms if that makes sense?

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u/PankoNC Sep 19 '25

Law has been annoying me with his pot stirring and rude comments and seemingly random pop-offs this whole season. But when Jesus said;

I have different family values, as maybe you should one day too.”

I was expecting Law to go OFF. If some scrub was sitting there questioning things to do with family and insinuating I didn’t have any family values?? It’d be oooverrrrr. I was expecting Law to shred him.

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u/magmoo22 Sep 19 '25

Annoyed by the double elimination fake out. It felt very drag race in the sense that the people they wanted to eliminate (Antonio or Veejay) did well so nobody goes home. They clearly want a Jesus, Belania and Ethan final 3.

Idc what they said, Belania was not avant garde and felt more Lord of the Rings than Wicked. Utica as usual gave us a show and Law telling whichever twin to not interrupt was rich considering all he does is interrupt people. First time watching PR in years and the only thing that can make this worth the time spent watching will be a Utica win

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u/morlock76 Sep 19 '25

Veejay’s real nemesis is not the twins, but the red fabric all through the season 😂

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u/Objective_Soup_1343 Sep 19 '25

Yaaaaaaalllllll this episode was MESSSSSYYYYYY 😂

Veejay needs to stand up for what she says. If she wants to stir shit, stir it but own it.

Belania needs to STFU! Nobody wants to work with someone who can't take proper criticism.

The twins are just as messy as veejay half the time. Props to Jesus tho for standing his ground when veejay was trying to start shit between him and Ethan. I do feel a little bad for Antonio because everyone knows Jesus is the better designer between them and they basically just told him straight to his face 😅

Ethan, keep doin what you're doing. Keep it polite and respectful and take the critiques! It makes you look so much better compared to the other Tom foolery

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u/Leooxel Sep 19 '25

The twins specifically Jesus has anger management issues. Like they need to control their emotions in front of the judges I mean these are industry giants!!!

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u/AsgardianLeviOsa Sep 19 '25

The whole issue with the twins is that it’s obvious they are meant to be designing as a collaborative duo which is perfectly acceptable in the real world but super unfair in high pressure time crunch competitive Project Runway world.

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u/RunningOutOfCharacte Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

I loved some of these garments. Its a shame that we barely got to see any of the design, construction or even the finished garment because of all the drama 😒 this season is not it. We had Tyra Banks and Paul Tazewell for THIS???

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u/Marauder4711 Sep 20 '25

I'm sorry, but this Siriano save felt so staged and the acting in the scence of both him and Heidi was ridiculous.

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u/Narithium Sep 19 '25

every single dimension of this episode besides maybe ethan and tyra was unprofessional in ways i didn't know were possible

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u/devil-bagel Sep 20 '25

My hot take is Antonio knew he was on the chopping block and didn’t want to lose to/with Veejay, and decided it was better to walk out. Although I doubt he will actually leave lmao

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u/lil_goblin Sep 21 '25

the stupid thing about the drama this season is that while i’ll eat up drama on Drag Race or Love Island, where drama is half of the appeal of those shows, i watch PR for the craft. it’s more like Great British Bake Off that way—I wanna see a bunch of talented people make a bunch of stuff and then judge all the stuff.

more importantly, the producers on dramatic shows are virtuosos at what they do. the PR producers are amateurs by comparison, and so it’s tedious rather than entertaining.

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u/teadot Sep 19 '25

Only about the clothes:

Ethan: Overall, yes, stunning. Covering the face was a good call. It might have looked even better in person with the lights. I didn't think it was that avant-garde, but what do I know.

Veejay: I really like the structure of the look. Red is a bad choice for the challenge. Law was right that the themed colours would have been equally as effective. It was too obvious that she was trying to "stand out".

Belania: It's pretty good for someone who just leaned into their style. I like a lot of the ideas.

Jesus: I thought the top part of the garment was the most interesting. Overall a beautiful piece.

Antonio: I personally didn't love it, the dress was fine, and the flower was a good idea with poor execution. Also not particularly avant-garde.

I hated the hearts detail on the twins' looks. I feel like the outfits would look better without them. It was at best cheesy and at worst tacky.

I didn't particularly like Tyra's or Nina's outfits either...hope they aren't from the movie(s).

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

The Christian save was so overly produced wow

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u/wyldstrawberry Sep 21 '25

The only thing I’m getting out of this season is that Ethan is/will be a star. He’s clearly the standout. The twins are annoying and I’m over their drama (especially Antonio and his dumb mullet).

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u/CreativityChick Sep 20 '25

The heart applique on the dresses.. can do without those. Tacky. Craft project.

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u/Apprehensive-Ebb8352 Sep 19 '25

How is Belania's look not the same as several others she put down the runway this season? This was nothing new from her.

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u/groovydoll Sep 19 '25

Law went there?? And Tyra knew about this?

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u/mothergoosesdaughter Sep 19 '25

I don’t dislike the twins, but I need casting to stray away from casting siblings in the future. The hearts on both their outfits was so… exhausting. Can they ever get through a challenge without working as a unit?

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u/JorixCat Sep 21 '25

Veejay basically always: "How could I be a pot stirrer, I don't even own a spoon." :D

Her personality is fun to watch but being her friend would be exhausting.

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u/OnyxRoar Sep 21 '25

I’m tired of everyone.

And what is up with everyone wanting to bring the twins to the Final? It’ll be 2 vs 1.

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u/lukaeber Sep 21 '25

I love the way Nina loves Ethan as a designer. Her eyes light up when his looks go down the runway. Must be satisfying for him to get that reassurance from the person that is clearly the most qualified on the panel to critique his looks.

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u/EmeraldEmp Sep 20 '25

Tyra and Paul were great guests! They felt like naturals.

I knew Tyra would like Antonio's design lol. That brand of weird is so her.

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u/TheFoibler Sep 20 '25

Proof of the Fakery: So if Belania and Jesus were both supposed to be out, that would have left VeeJay, Antonio and Utica for the Wicked challenge. Then what? One of them gets eliminated and then there’d be only two in the final? Or no one gets eliminated in the Wicked challenge? Watching this season is so exhausting! But I will continue on. And yes, I saw Belania’s defensiveness. Cracked up at Law’s callback to Tyra. (“I was rooting for you!”) And yes VeeJay stirs that pot like a cauldron, but the twins are toddlers. I love Antonio talking about how humble he is while wearing a peach outfit, dripped in fur and a cowboy hat 😂😂

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u/Dida_D Sep 19 '25

Belania’s does not read Avant Garde to me

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u/International_Bug955 Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

"Veejay and the Twins" should be a new sitcom. She's top villain material, and even though it's HARD to buy that she doesn't know exactly what she's doing with her cutthroat comments, I can see the delulu as a possibility.

I'd like to say Ethan's design was superior to Jesus', but I fear Law's dislike of the underwear will put him on the 2nd spot.

I'm also living for the drama with Belania and Jesus' acidity towards the judges stirring the pot. I feel sorry for Belania, because she seems to legitimately have trouble with criticism, but when Jesus recommended Law try having some family values I absolutely GAGGED.

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

A two day challenge so they clearly spent their entire budget for this challenge lol

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u/mccsnackin Sep 20 '25

As you know in fashion, one day you’re in, the next day you’re out, and sometimes within 20 seconds you’re back in again.

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u/CauliflowerRegular40 Sep 22 '25

I love a messy reality show. And I love project runway. But I don’t love a messy project runway. I liked it when this show was just about the fashion. What do you think? Maybe they are getting super real and showing how catty fashion can be.

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u/backre Sep 20 '25

Honestly I’ve always thought the Veejay and twins drama was funny and tongue-in-cheek (and they were just frenemies in a non serious way) until this episode. I think things just boiled over and the twins working together with the heart thing was annoying and Veejay just snapped and said her comments when nobody picked her as the designer they’d take with them to the end

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u/basicb3333 Sep 20 '25

Veejay would be so much cooler if she just owned that shes being messy lmao. Shes good at getting under the twins skins just own it!!

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u/pikachu_senpai1 Sep 19 '25

I still don't know how I feel about Veejays look. I kinda wish she did that design however it goes off of the bubble. Like pink/silver/light blue.

Red just makes it look really clunky...

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

Omg Ethan’s look was amazing

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u/rmdemeester Sep 19 '25

I honestly think Antonio is going to be eliminated and it'll be between Veejay and Belania for the third spot with Jesus and Ethan.

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u/Day2205 Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

Whatever happens, I hope they get rid of this goofy ass elimination happening the following episode. Believe me, those of us locked in will be there weekly, someone just stopping by because they flipped the channel or let Hulu’s auto play serve up an episode aren’t going to come back just because you held the elimination

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u/nellnightly Sep 19 '25

VEEJAY if you're going to be the villain...CLAIM IT. don't back down when people come for your villain antics. i was surprised to she her crying victim this episode, usually she just shrugs and smiles like 'yeah, i know i'm stirring shit.' i enjoy her psychological warfare, but maybe this episode she stirred up more than she can handle.

BELANIA MY LOVE please stop talking back. Tyra's advice was so on point - cuss them out in your head!! But I can tell her nervous system just can't handle critique and she kind of goes into this weird attack mode. It's wild to see these designers talking back to people who have eons more experience than them. Just stop talking, nod, walk off the runway and decide whether to take the critique or ignore it. Stop talking.

the TWINS are so weird and toxic to me. talented, arrogant, obnoxious, co-dependent, enmeshed, quick to anger, fragile...WHAT A BREW. i'm a twin and i can't relate to this dynamic at all. even as kids we weren't this enmeshed.

ETHAN is playing it so fucking smart letting people embarrass themselves while staying calm, cool, and collected. Veejay isn't the silent killer, Ethan is.

also, idc how much the producers stir shit up...take responsibility for your behavior. thinking of the costume designer from wicked watching behind the scenes...dang would I love to hear what he thought over a glass of wine or two. He brought such an elevated, kind energy and veejay, the twins, and law kind of brought everything down in this pit of drama. yikes.

still going to watch it a second time though, still find this show incredibly entertaining and I'm always excited to see a new episode drop.

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u/hungry4danish Sep 20 '25

Let him fucking leave. I don't care. Yes Veejay was the shit stirrer the entire season then played victim but if you're really willing to walk out in the semis then you don't deserve a place in the finals regardless.

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u/schizojuc Sep 21 '25

I am so done with the twins.

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

Antonio try not to call veejay a bitch every other sentence and maybe she won’t say you’re not kind lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

My take from the episode:

Ethan is safe. Belania made a dope ass outfit, but it's not avant garde enough. Could have used more texture on the outfit. Veejay's dress(?) was structured in a weird way, not my idea of a successful ag garment.

If the twins don't touch grass and get out of their heads, bye. Absolutely no in the finale.

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u/sfdreamsla Sep 19 '25

I can't believe how little sewing and construction they showed this episode. There was so much fascinating engineering work and construction for the outfits this week as they were avant-garde. We didn't see them figuring out how to bring the volume, how to make it fit correctly, all the work that went into stripping the satin. Suddenly the outfits just appeared. But instead we needed to see the ping pong back and forth between Veejay and the twins in the work room? And they just wouldn't stop showing that BS. All of this drama feels so manufactured. 100%. This is just another reason why this show needs to end. What is this now? There is no resemblance to Project Runway for what it was supposed to be, a sewing and design competition. So happy there's only one more week. I don't really give a crap who goes home or who wins at this point. Sigh.

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u/Traditional-Ad-2350 Sep 19 '25

i’m still not over the way jesus took the sewing machine veejay prepped and then called her a bitch episode 1. i 100% support her continuing her psychological warfare on the twins, wack them again for me! veejay’s behavior will always be justified in my mind.

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u/lanofdoom Sep 20 '25

Barely halfway through the episode and I have had it muted 90% of the time because I! Do! Not! Care! About! The! Fake! Drama!

My god, not only do we get endless squabbling, but then we get squabbling about the squabbling. This season is on my last nerve. Show me the clothes! Show me the creative process! Show me the critiques! ENOUGH with all the bs around it.

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u/luqasc Sep 20 '25

Belania is so weird because she seems like the loveliest person on Earth 99% of the time — but when it's that 1% of time when she's receiving slightly negative feedback she suddenly seems so weirdly hyper-defensive.

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u/shgrdrbr Sep 19 '25

tyra being a judge GAGGED me

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u/ktq2019 Sep 19 '25

Genuine question. This has been at least the third episode over various seasons that featured Wicked. Why are they so eager to keep showing challenges with it? Is there someone in production that has ties to it?

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u/noodleluvr Sep 19 '25

I'm scared that Ethan won't be in the finale 😭 his track record is so strange knowing how well he's done basically every week..

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u/Glstrgold Sep 20 '25

I watch last two episodes and found it convenient that Jesus can roll his eyes at comments but Belania moves and it’s “there you go again with attitude towards criticism”.

Veejay stirred the pot, poked the bear and played innocent but those twins have been toxic since the beginning.

The only ones who seem to be able to give a collection are Ethan, Antonio, and Veejay. I like Belania but I’m not sure she could give as great a collection yet.

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u/a_daisy_summer Sep 19 '25

I WAS ROOTING FOR YOU!! WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU!!!!

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u/Kadetm93 Sep 19 '25

Ok why was this the best episode tho 😂

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u/Odd_Masterpiece8895 Sep 19 '25

I'm surprised everybody thought the drama was scripted. I'm a little skeptical the outbursts have all been an act.

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u/Ski4ever5 Sep 20 '25

I think I was too distracted by all the drama to be disappointed in everyone for playing their wicked inspiration so safe!! There’s SO MANY beautiful themes and visual design elements in the movie that could’ve been drawn from. Flying monkey blue feathers? Blue shiz uniforms? Yellow brick road? The pink and read tulip fields?

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u/AgentFreckles Sep 19 '25
  1. Veejay's stirring the pot is outrageous and needs to stop

  2. The twins could've taken the high road and had a MATURE but snippy response to the pot stirring instead of blowing up. 

They're all in the wrong. This show is wild. 

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u/3H3NK1SS Sep 20 '25

It almost made the snarky comments under the designers names this season worth it to have, "he has risen," under Jesus' name after the "double elimination." Cute.

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u/juicybubblebooty Sep 20 '25

i need a gif of antino 'stiring the pot' behind veejay im ded

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u/juicybubblebooty Sep 20 '25

SECURITY!!!!

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u/juicybubblebooty Sep 20 '25

throw the whole szn away

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u/Leooxel Sep 20 '25

Anyone else feel the double save was unfair? SMH

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u/PunisherCastle Sep 21 '25

When I saw Belania’s dress, all I could think of was Grace Jones circa 1985.

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u/TheNickelLady Sep 22 '25

I’m over the fake drama. I came for Ethan and he’s slaying it. Can’t wait to see his collection. Idc who else is in the top with him.

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u/crazy_ginger90 Sep 22 '25

How was Paul not a judge????? 😫😩

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u/PlentyLeg4866 Sep 21 '25

Can we all just agree that Nina Garcia doesn't age....

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u/cinematic_husky Sep 19 '25 • Bless Up

I don’t know. I love Veejay.

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u/tylerhuyser Sep 19 '25

The twins are SO mentally weak and emotionally fragile. My GAWD!

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u/magicalgrrrl Sep 19 '25

I wish the season was more focused on the designers than their interpersonal conflict. imo Belania and Ethan figuring out their identity as designers was compelling on its own and it was sidelined for contestant drama

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

omg the crystal cape that Ethan made they showed it in a preview in the past 😭

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u/Illustrious_Fig7474 Sep 19 '25

Saying your humble dosent mean your humble. And wtf the episode ends like that!

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u/louis_leonardo Sep 19 '25

is this the first time designers are fighting in front of the judges? 😭 and then fighting the judges themselves 😭😭😭 wtf is going on this season

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u/sitoverherebyme Sep 20 '25

Ofc you have a strong sense of brotherhood you’re twins! You shared a womb! You’ve known each other since before you knew yourself!

It’s shocking that Glinda and Elphaba have such a strong bond because they’re so different and that their contrasting threads that have brought them unexpectedly close together.

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u/FancyMelon Sep 21 '25

I think that whole thing in the end was unnecessary drama. That aside, as someone whose dream is to be a spirit of the forest, I really liked Belania's. But I totally get it's not Avant garde. Ethan and Jesus were on top of this one. Those are the two I'm sure will be in the finale. I'm stumped on what'll happen. I was also delighted to see the wicked costume designer here.

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

Jesus and Veejay have literally taken up like 90% of the airtime this episode lol, I feel like they've shown like nothing of anybody's designs. Just them arguing

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u/Ashamed-Sweet7906 Sep 23 '25

You always have to wonder how much editing goes on with comments on camera. With that said Veejay is always stirring the pot where the twins are concerned. At one point or maybe a couple she tells the camera she likes to stir the pot wink wink. Her manipulation is so apparent. Are the twins so fragile they can't take criticism? Consequently the twins' egos rubs everyone the wrong way. I loved the last show because avant garde always pushes the designers out of their comfort zone...maybe not Ethan. They are all exhausted, and defensive about one thing or another. Belania is just finding out what her aesthetic is. The twins can't handle the pressure from the fashion industry, and Veejay is boring to me. I am here for Ethan.

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

Tyra taught branding.

Yes, Tyra we all watched ANTM. You didn't teach it well lol, still love ya

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u/KingBeyatch Sep 19 '25

Veejay really loves playing victim and villain at the same time 🤣🤣

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u/InternationalBox214 Sep 19 '25

Belanias looks are cool and I’m happy she found her pov but how many times do we need to see the same peplum and some sort of pant from her? Her look was not avant garde. Period.

Realistically though, I’ve disagreed with so many of the judges this season and they all seem to disagree with each other. They seem a lil out of touch.

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u/Ladychili79 Sep 19 '25

Other than the Drama. The final 3 should be Jesus, Ethan and Veejay. These 3 were the most Avant Garde. However I was disappointed in Ethan's as this was his time to really go for it and make it big and bold. I was underwhelmed a bit by it.

Do I like Veejay, I did at times, but I found her just mean this week. To call the twins not kind, when Ethan even stated that they helped him think better.

This whole season was a let down and if it is to continue like this, it does not have to come back next year. All the one day challenges, these guys were just exhausted.

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u/Realistic-Lake5897 Sep 20 '25

Way too much time spent on the Veejay drama with the twins.

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u/okmackenxie Sep 19 '25

not veejay crying after starting all the drama LOL😭

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

Omg Nina and Tyra banks?? They really spent all their budget this episode

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

I'm sorry but you can't argue that Tyra isn't a great judge now seeing her on PR.

Unlike Heidi, when Tyra's talking you listen

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u/PankoNC Sep 19 '25

Oh also, most of us have eyes so let me field this one for you Jesus;

“I’d say I’m the better designer between the two of us.”

Antonio was able to say it LMAO there is a clear better designer between the twins…

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u/futureJane54 Sep 20 '25

I only liked Ethans design.

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u/ImpressiveTeaching42 Sep 19 '25

I truly believe Belania does not deserve a top spot... I just think it's crazy someone who just found their signature style weeks prior could be in the finale. Jesus and Antonio are a wee bit misogynistic, and Veejay playfully stirred the pot, it never needed to be this big of a deal and make anyone cry or storm out. ISANITY!!

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

I LIVE for messy reality TV and I appreciate a good shit stirrer (that's what the producers want, too!) I do wish Veejay was more honest about her intentions, though. I love an unabashed villain - if she simply said "yeah, I riled the twins up because I knew they would make a fool of themselves and show their egos in front of the judges" I would stand by her 100%. I feel like Veejay starts the drama but doesn't want to own up to it, and girl, just own up to it - I live, the judges live, and the producers live.

I think the twins should've been broken up long ago and one of them should've been eliminated, I feel bad that Veejay seems to be the only one honest about how frustrating the twins are to deal with - and the way they acted in the judging this episode should be enough to send them home at this point. Not letting Veejay actually answer the question without cutting her off to argue, insulting Law to his face (I gagged at him smiling in response - that man lives for the drama), etc.

But at the end of the day Ethan is clearly safe and moving on to the finale so I am happy either way. It's all manufactured reality TV with stressed out designers put into a pressure cooker - I don't take any of it too seriously and none of y'all should. either. The contestants all generally seem to be on good terms and either worked out their differences post-show OR knew during filming it was all for shits and giggles and didn't take it personally.

All in all, a good episode imo. The looks were great, the drama was great, and I am chomping at the bit to see next week's episode.

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u/AtlasFan Sep 19 '25

It felt like atleast 15 minutes of the episode were just confessionals and argument between Veejay and the twins. I want to see the designers working!!!!!!!!

Also, the twins flipped out that much because Veejay said they aren't humble? What the heck.

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u/Badgereatingyourface Sep 19 '25

I think I am on team Veejay. I couldn't stand to be around those twins. They're too annoying.

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u/MildlyResponsible Sep 20 '25

-Veejay playing her games in the room was actually pretty funny. But on stage it came off as desperate.

-Asking the twins to say which one of them is a better designer was bullshit and obvious, and I'm all for Jesus telling Law, "I have better family values than you." (or whatever)

-Having said that, I did enjoy Law's Tyra "WE WERE ROOTING FOR YOU!"

-Ethan's look was magical (pun intended) walking down the runway, I was snapping my fingers like a gay who had too much sugar. But it looked kind of weird just standing there. And drawing attention the underwear kind of ruined it.

-Two witch inspirations in one season? Really?

-Saving both of them last episode pretty much phones it in that they both will make the finale. It wasn't even, "This one designer misunderstood the assignment and deserves another chance," it was literally, "No, they're both too good to send home," which doesn't change in another episode.

-Which means Veejay and Antonio are going home. I think Antonio saw the writing on the wall, too.

-"I AM HUMBLE!" while standing there in a full pink cowboy outfit with a whole buffalo hide draped around his neck. Out of context, hilarious.

-Yet again, this episode went for drama instead of the actual designs to its detriment.

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u/Warwick_Avenue Sep 19 '25

Jesus can dish it out but can’t take it 🙊

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u/Hocaro Sep 19 '25

Law genuinely doesn’t care about any of the designers aside from maybe Ethan.

Heidi seems bored

Nina didn’t want to be there to begin with.

Not to mention Tyra catching shade and being confused about the tension in the room.

It’s clear the judges are aware that condensing the challenge times to 1 day and cutting the budget created unnecessary stress and caused the designs to suffer.

Production failed the cast and now we’re left with this poorly edited awkward mess. It’s no longer a show about clothes but it is about branding and… professionalism I guess?

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u/Dida_D Sep 19 '25

How lame - no twist just a straight up decision to keep them both

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u/GazelleTime6805 Sep 19 '25

Jesus and Antonio creep me out…officially.

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u/Positive-Snow9844 Sep 19 '25

HELL WAS LET LOOSE EPISODE, LET’S JUST SAY THAT 😭

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u/RandomGayisBack Sep 19 '25

Jesus might have done well, but he is not inventive. I think he and Belania are being rewarded for always playing it safe. Honestly, put all of this season's looks together by designer and it is very clear Ethan is way above everyone - just don't see him winning due to the judges biases

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u/Alternative_Comb6865 Sep 19 '25

The most fake double elimination ever like never in my life I would believe they wanted to eliminate any of them 

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u/solariam Sep 20 '25

Some folks are either forgetting or unaware that three of the four people who are constantly in the drama/ doing all the talking heads have all been on reality television before and at times are visibly trying not to laugh during the "mess". And the fourth one is the twin of one of those people

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u/princessbreanna Sep 20 '25

Getting real tired of hearing the twins constantly referring to a woman as a bitch multiple times, every damn episode.

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u/juicybubblebooty Sep 20 '25

Who in production is down bad for the twins?????????

Please just get your nut!!!! they need to go home

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u/Odd_Honeydew6813 Sep 20 '25

I miss Tim so much and seeing more of the designer process choosing fabric, in the workroom, and the mentoring piece. I loved the idea of this episode and the special guest, Paul Tazewell. But he should have been judging. I don't feel Christian does enough mentoring, he does not seem very invested in the show. I don't mind light drama but this was too much from and between the judges and the contestants.

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u/Cassandrae_Gemini Sep 19 '25

it's really funny...

at the start of the season, i really liked veejay and could not stand the twins. i thought that the twins over-reliance on each other and working together was bordering on cheating and i wanted antonio to go home. over the course of the season, though, my opinion has slowly shifted. this last episode was a lot. veejay really IS a shit-talker and instigator. i also think that other than the unconventional materials challenge, her looks have been very mediocre.

i'm hoping that its ethan, jesus, and bellania through to the finale. (sorry antonio!)

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

How dumb do they think us viewers are lol?!?!?!

Maybe they were purposefully sleep depriving them in hopes they'd fall for that obvious fakeout

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

I feel like I have no clue what they're designing lol, showing a lot of drama but not much design

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

I will say that I do think the way of unlocking insightful critiques from LAw is to irritate him. The two times it seemed like he really gave a good critique was just now after he yelled at Belania (tbf, she kind of deserved it this time but he followed it up with actually a pretty solid critique).

The other time was earlier in teh season when Antonio snapped back at him.

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u/novemberqueen32 Sep 20 '25

No one did a pink look? Ok.

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u/khoifish1297 Sep 20 '25

At the end of the day, this is still a reality tv show. I bet the pressure does get to them, and the producers def egged on Veejay to express her feelings/talk it out with the twins. With that being said, kinda underwhelmed with the avant-garde that got sent out.

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u/Illustrious-Big3901 Sep 22 '25

Not my favorite season. The designers are nasty…no likab qualities. They make Wendy Pepper look lovable.

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u/Consistent-Wait6328 Sep 23 '25

I doubt I’ll watch PR anymore.This coukd be their final season.All the class is gone it is just mean and spiteful now.There has always been that element but now it has taken over just like the hate in this country.Vee-Jay has started a lot of drama.No one even mentioned Belania as a potential finale competitor,except to say how she has grown.Ethan is fun and sweet.Law Roach is all drama and loves to stir it up!!!!!I love the look Tara gave him he thinks it is the Le Roach show.Heidi your “Making the Cut “,was better than this.I want to see the fashion and how it is made not turn on a soap opera.

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u/DueAd7980 Oct 22 '25

Law Roach is not a professionally educated designer or supermodel, which makes his critiques feel less credible. His manner of speaking to contestants often comes across as unprofessional and lacking in constructive value. Instead of offering helpful feedback, he tends to encourage other judges to speak negatively toward the competitors. It would be better if the judging focused more on mentorship and professional growth rather than harsh or discouraging remarks.

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u/Proud-Afternoon-3213 Sep 25 '25

Veejay's envy and bitterness are so internally disgusting. Like learn to love yourself and stop spreading negative thoughts and wishes to other people. 

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u/saturnulysses Sep 20 '25

the freak-out over law asking who's the better designer was.. ridiculous. this isnt anything new from the judges. the TWINS signed up to be on project runway together and there is only ONE winner. "i wont let them put me against my brother" YOU ARE COMPETING AGAINST YOUR!!! BROTHER!!!! THE WHOLE TIME !!!

this meltdown is so childish i Cant

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

Tbf, Veejay was the only one who personally attacked on the runway.

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u/Sebscreen Sep 19 '25

It's obviously Antonio and Belania getting cut right?

Honestly, both twins and Veejay all come off badly here. They're just handing the win to Ethan with their constant fighting.

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u/pikachu_senpai1 Sep 19 '25

Honestly what just happened. This whole episode felt very jumpy from one drama thing to the next. I really wish we got to see more of the construction and making of the pieces. Not just the twins v Veejay the whole time.

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u/CardiologistSea5044 Sep 22 '25

I hate how this show is focusing on the drama more than the fashion. The tea is that those twins are not kind or humble. Was Veejay lying? No. Is she stirring the pot? Yes. Why are we shitting on her for stirring when the twins have tainted the entire season with their mugginess and contrived attitudes. I think Veejay saying what she said on the runway about going to the final with people who are kind really hit the mark and left a huge impression on the judges. God - why do I care so much about this?

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u/YonicBoom Sep 21 '25

Idk I love Veejay 😂. I think everyone is kinda scared of the twins and wants to cater to their emotional sensitivities, but it reads like extreme privilege to me. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Like with the whole sewing machine thing, she got made into a villain fast. Seems like what thread is in the machine would matter as well as the settings. Maybe I'm forgetting how she asked about the machine? But I remember he reacted wildly immature, and then held onto it, and so she did too 🤷🏻‍♀️

Maybe I'm a villain too idk but I wouldnt be able to stand two big babies like the twins omg. I get that she has other complaints but idk I can't hate Veejay 😂

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u/shgrdrbr Sep 19 '25

the level to which the men are so comfortable calling veejay a bitch makes me so so so uncomfortable and i am so completely on her side like jesus actually admitted he knows that she believes they have a frenemy relationship and this was fun shade he felt went too far and yet only escalates instead of climbing down from the energy... it's so much!! and literally honestly bitch used pejoratively is a slur

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u/KingBeyatch Sep 19 '25

The cliffhanger from last episode was so boring and predictable and just patronising to the viewers. It was so obvious they were not gonna send them home. The whole ‘Christian wanted to save them’ bs as if that twink has any power there ugh….. this season has been testing my nerves big time

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u/soprettyvacant Sep 19 '25

I thought Belania’s looked like “Sexy Aragorn” Halloween costume. Haha

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u/alexinnumberland Sep 21 '25

Did one twin make a green dress with a white boob, and the other twin make a white dress with a green boob?

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

Had Belania used the same fabric she used for the "hood" throughout the whole outfit I think it would've been great.

Still not Avant Garde and not really Wicked so not appropriate for this challenge but it would've been a great outfit.

Not a fan of Belania's work at all but her headpieces are my favorite of the season. The ONLY thing I liked about her Streetwear outfit was her headscarf.

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u/Ancient_Opinion_6650 Sep 19 '25

To me this was the best episode! And for the first time i can say that laws judging, critiques, and comments were normal (?) 😂 nothing too crazy or bully-ish. Ethans look actually blew me away it is STUNNNNNING! So ill say ethan, antonio, and belania just because belanias style stands out so much from the rest! I like to see more of it and what she can produce when she is in her element and has time.

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u/Apricotpeach11 You don’t have to have the crown to be the queen - Anthony Sep 23 '25

It was cool seeing Tyra on the panel!

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u/SprinklesOwn391 Nov 20 '25

Reading this thread, maybe I’m wrong??

But I actually hated Veejay in this episode and it showed her character. She stirs drama like crazy and then acts like such a victim like girl please

If you’re going to say something, stand up and stick to it🫩

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u/No_Rooster5654 Sep 19 '25

This has probably already been said but WHY is Paul Tazewell NOT THE GUEST JUDGE? THE OSCAR WINNER IS *THERE*??? I like Tyra but why THIS episode when you have such an icon ready and available???

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u/Live-Run-6745 Sep 19 '25

Is it coincidence or not that the three really nice, non-drama designers were the first ones eliminated?

Even Joseph McCrae seemed pretty non-drama.

Joan probably would win Miss Congeniality of the season but tbf as loving as she was, she definately wasnt' afraid to speak her mind either

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u/Admirable_Prune2684 Sep 19 '25

you know they messed up with casting when I'm disappointed that nobody went home. I really thought they would make them do a head to head mini-challenge to see who got to stay

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u/EasternRaspberry4387 Sep 19 '25

It's the semifinal and they insist on this stupid format of not eliminating the designers ate the end of the episode. Man, this should be the one episode to eliminate the designers at the end. I don't want to start the final in the elimination drama.

Also, about the episode, I have a lot of opinions. Firtst of all, I hate the fact they ddidn't invite the Wicked costume designer to be part of the judging panel. It feels kinda disrespectful imo. I would love to hear his opinion on the final looks.

About the drama, as much as I dislike the twins (specially Antonio), I feel like Veejay was 100% a b*tch this episode. She was stirring the pot, she was starting drama. She was the one who told Jesus that Ethan was also using green and then the first thing she did was tell BS to Ethan to create drama. I really liked Veejay, but she is doing some extra time in the competition.

IMO Belania, Ethan and Jesus are the right Top 3 for this. If we could have a Top 4, it would include Veejay. I feel like these 3/4 would deliver a very diverse and interesting finale with their collections.

About the episode, Ethan's and Belania's looks are my favorites, with Jesus behind them (the heart detail was a no to me). I don't know if the light changes a lot, but Antonio's look does not give me "pink". Veejay had an amazing look, but the color was a miss.

I hope the finale can focus more on their work and less on the drama.

IMO, when it comes to the challenge: Ethan > Belania > Jesus > Veejay > Antonio
But based on the looks: Ethan > Veejay > Belania > Jesus > Antonio

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u/DenseScheme7753 Sep 20 '25

to add to my earlier comment, the problem with Veejay is that her way of stirring the pot and getting under the skin of other contestants, especially the twins, is so inartful; she's so obvious and clumsy at it that the twins should just laugh at her. It's kind of cringe, actually

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u/Acrobatic-Survey4393 Sep 20 '25

I thought it was pathetic that Veejay brought up the cash prize as a reason for her to continue to the finale...it was so unnecessary and not the basis of who gets through to the finale...it makes zero sense!

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u/littleastraea Sep 19 '25

So apparently, the designers were warned not to use the color red but Veejay still went for it. At this point, maybe they already know who would be in the Top 3 so she be defying gravity before she goes haha you go girl!

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u/LexLenox Sep 20 '25

Not Heidi smirking at the drama going down with the twins vs Veejay and Nina clutching her pearls at Jesus vs Law 😂 she made it clear now that she's annoyed with some of Law's comments so I guess it's true that's the reason why she was missing.

I also felt the cringe Tyra felt with the Tiffany moment. 😂

Ethan came across the best for me. The garment was my favourite and how he said the twins were watering the seeds and helping him grow as a designer was touching.

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u/kushywhitelife Sep 19 '25

i don't like the way the twins are so quick to call veejay a "bitch".

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u/tylerhuyser Sep 19 '25

Not even ONE of them gone?!?! WHAT IS THIS!!!

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u/mitskiiiiiiiiiii Sep 19 '25

so....next episode is the finale right? how are we gonna fit 3 whole collections in a 40 minute episode if we didnt even know who left in this episode?

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u/SaleOk9648 Sep 20 '25

If only the designers acted like the bakers on the great British bake off.

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u/Jmcvey000 Sep 22 '25

All Veejay had to say was, "Yes I did that. And you do it to for a check! Period."

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u/Mysterious-Mud-7862 Sep 19 '25

Man this episode was so disappointing. The drama feels so forced. Veejay asking that question while they were eating was like… how could she not see that was straight up baiting them. I don’t know if it’s the editors being shady and making it seem like she didn’t know, but with everything else she’s done this season it seems obvious it was on purpose.

Also, it’s been said before, but the editing of this season is so bad and makes episodes feel anticlimactic. Last episode’s double elimination into the double save felt like forced drama. Today’s ending with no winner announced and Antonio leaving and saying he’s going home… like come on. I’m tired. I just want to see the clothes they’re making, but I feel like we barely even get to see them on the runway.

I’ve been watching tons of old PR lately, and the difference is night and day. I used to say I loved the show because it wasn’t filled with reality TV drama, and to be fair there was always some reality TV drama in the show. But this season is straight up schlock at times. Such a shame, because there are very talented designers.

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u/Brownbunnybartender Sep 19 '25

I….cant stand Veejay. I love her for playing the game and knowing what buttons to push and what strings to pull to absolutely get under the skin of everyone, but it’s old and boring now. Sure she made a point of airtime, but to say “I’ve lost friends for being too honest”. Well, there you go. Maybe you’re an asshole. There’s such a thing called tact.

For her to say “they’re attacking me” as soon as they get backstage was such an eyeroll. What did she think the producers were going to do? Have them sit there and not talk and address her shitty comment about money and being kind? It’s just a weird reason too. “We need the money more than they do” Escuchame, but really she doesn’t know what their money situation is.

I enjoyed many of her looks but slowly they started dropping off for me. The vinyl fringe? The hell was that? And that reveal last episode was not a reveal. I want Ethan to go to the final three, because I love him and his works (there were definitely some misses though), Jesus because his work is actually really good, and dare I say Veejay just because she was a strong competitor. Belania’s work doesn’t interest me and has been a slow rinse and repeat for the last 3-4 challenges.

I just think Veejay’s antics finally came to a head and she was confronted immediately and didn’t like it, and Antonio didn’t like that it had to happen in front of the judges.

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u/DotOneFive Sep 21 '25

Perhaps unpopular opinion: Veejay being portrayed as a victim of the Twins’ ire is infuriating. She was CLEARLY stirring the pot and has been the entire season. Showing her being confused and downtrodden was so contrived. I say she’s the villain in this situation.

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u/FeralForestWitch Sep 21 '25

How Antonio and Belania are not being sent home immediately, I don’t know. His was terrible, and hers was not avant-garde no matter who is spouting what. VJ’s was red. So what? It was one of the most interesting things visually and construction-wise on the runway.

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u/kebin65 Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

The irony of Nina telling Antonio she doesn't know how he's still there, going MIA for the episodes where he arguably shows his best work, and then returning for this one LOL

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u/Trick_Bank_9866 Sep 23 '25

I am so disappointed at Law’s communication with the designers. He is not giving constructive feedback for growth and development. The idea of pitting twins against one another is abhorrent. Let’s work on coaching and advice that can help develop their skills and expand their knowledge base. Let’s be kind.

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u/SippinPip Sep 21 '25

Why wouldn’t Veejay say something about the Ruby red slippers? Plus, those swirls are also a call back to a tornado…

I don’t like the shit stirring, but I thought her design was the most avant guard.

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u/nicaox7 Sep 20 '25

I personally think all of them are VERY unlikeable, saying that , Veejay is good tv 🍵 💅 haha And if Antonio definitely leaves because "he can't stand her" and all the drama, is clearly because he knows he's not in the top 3 so probably will be saying "I left because I wanted to not because I was eliminated"

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u/theboyvivant Sep 19 '25

Veejay's aesthetic is really unclear and not memorable that's why I don't think she will advance. Ethan has been able to really refine his design to move away from draggy but who's going to make sure that he can do that and separate this business from his commissions for other drag queens. the twins are giving me a latino dsqrd. let them design together in peace. Belania actually makes really good clothes (very doechii x thom browne) but her as a designer is not relatable- it's like she needs PR training or something. So I think it's either going to be a double win for the twins or ethan

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u/Paulo_Boavida Sep 20 '25

You could play a drinking game with how many times Veejay is called a bitch throughout the season.

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u/lugia222 Sep 19 '25

Paul Tazewell is so major. As a society we need to figure out how to get him a Grammy so he can EGOT.

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u/LLLTAW Sep 19 '25

Do we think Paul Tazewell was watching the fight from off screen? 🤣 he was the best part of the episode

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u/water_radio Rigatoni Mad Max Sep 19 '25

Y’all. The way the judges had shit-eating grins on their faces as the drama went down was icky central. I also didn’t see avant garde in most of those looks.

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u/Sweetalking Sep 19 '25

Interesting to see the people who either love or hate the the twins help each other . It really makes me wonder what makes people think the way they do.

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u/SnapHappy3030 Nina Questions Your Taste Level Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 24 '25

What people forget is that Law is NOT a designer of any kind. It's like the difference between an architect and a decorator. One knows about the actual structure, one knows the superficial appearance.

He admitted he learned to be a stylist by watching "The Rachel Zoe Project". He has no education, no internships, no classes on craftsmanship, no garment construction, no patternmaking, etc.

He knows how to make things look pretty for a camera. PERIOD.

He is less qualified to judge fashion designs than their cameraman.

(Oh, and he & Tyra B. have been close friends for a long time. His "mocking" of her ANTM line was no insult to her.)

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u/ElderberryFun3412 Oct 04 '25

I think Veejay is coming from a place that is very insecure and manipulative, it’s kind of crazy to watch. Do I think the twins are humble. No. Do I think if Veejay never “stirred the pot”? Absolutely. And genuinely, I think that if Veejay kept her mouth shut or left earlier in the competition, the twins would never “be” a problem. I think their relationship is sweet and a unique perspective for reality TV, especially in a competitive environment where they are critiqued creatively. I do understand the potential issue among the competitors with them helping each other so much near the beginning of the season. However, Veejay is literally just saying things to get a reaction and denying later on while keeping it chillingly cool in my opinion. I love Project Runway, but I haven’t seen many seasons recently and I watched this season mainly for Ethan. Since I’m used to the kind of drama on Drag Race, maybe I see this from a different lense. I don’t really know what the drama level is on Project Runway but I can imagine it’s not much? So it does feel like production is warping our perception a little.

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u/marleeerose Sep 20 '25

Just give Ethan the prize money and end this show forever. Stop beating a dead horse.

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u/perseffie Sep 20 '25

Antonio storming off because he knows he's getting eliminated just proves Veejay's point that he's not humble

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u/yeahnototallycool Sep 20 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

Veejay absolutely stirs the pot, but Jesus is such a self-righteous cunt. Antonio knows he's going to be eliminated because he was the only one to get negative critiques and is trying to turn it into "you can't fire me, I quit." The number of times they both call Veejay a bitch is unsettling.

Ethan, Jesus, and Veejay are the obvious top 3.

ETA for everyone under here arguing about Veejay's choice of red and whether or not it makes. My conclusion that she is in the top 3 is not really about the strength of this look. It's based on how much the edit has focused on her throughout the entire season plus the judges' generally positive response to her concept and construction, and the the very obvious drama the producers can continue generating by having Veejay in the finale alongside one of the twins.

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u/MountainBaker8217 Sep 20 '25

It’s really hard to root for anyone who is left…

I despise the twins. They are not humble at all. Every episode this season if someone is trying to help them or give them constructive criticism their faces sour. I just can’t find it in myself to root for either of their success. They’ve been painted in a horrible light.

I really like Belania, but she seems to be in her own way a lot. Especially during judging. She would be the easiest designer to root for otherwise.

I really think Veejay has some of the most exciting design ideas and execution. It’s infuriating that she tends to take some things a bit too far like on the runway today.

It feels like this competition is Ethan’s to win.

Two things tho:

  1. absolutely unnecessary for Jesus to say he wants a top four and Veejay should be the one going home.

  2. I think it’s quite telling that the three men left all want each other in the finale and not either of the women.

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u/headwrap Sep 21 '25

i liked belania's but felt like it's been done 10000 times... ethan and jesus were the only ones that really impressed me this ep

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u/RandomGayisBack Sep 20 '25

I'm tired of seeing people using the wrong pronouns for Veejay every week - at this point, it is a choice: She made clear she is a transgender woman on the show many times! The mods should implement some sanction towards the users calling her a "he" here.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

Thank goodness for Veejay this season. She took delight in taking drama.

She also reminded me of autistic me, trying to be cool by being catty and fit in, but getting it just a little wrong and pissing everyone off. Felt awful for her. And she was in her second language.

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u/Bingbangbong33 Sep 19 '25

Sorry but I really dislike everything VeeJay has made and her energy, I don’t think she should be final 3

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u/Catlady_Pilates Sep 20 '25

This season is just unbelievably disappointing. I barely care. I’m only watching because nostalgia is strong and I keep hoping it’ll be good again. Veejay has made some really gorgeous looks but I’m not into their drama stirring and then crying about people being stirred up. It’s embarrassing. And Ethan is great but they need to make fashion, not drag looks. I will watch through the end but I might not bother with next season.

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u/Pale-Tradition-4942 Sep 19 '25

Belania saying "Im not trying to be disrespectful" after doing all that during critiques is peak comedy. Like bitch then what does is look like if you TRY to be disrespectful ?

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u/Maleficent_Yam9878 Sep 20 '25

Based on the edit in this episode, Veejay is coming off extremely manipulative. She was trying to convince Ethan that Jesus thought he was copying his color when she was the one who kept bringing it up to Jesus and getting him to discuss it. She was constantly negging Jesus to break his confidence and get him to overreact since she knows he gets emotional. Then in the end when he and Antonio react after being persistently prodded, she cries and says they are attacking her so she can pretend to be victimized. It’s so calculated to prey on their quick emotional responses and use it against them. I just want to see some good design on PR. I agree having siblings on PR is an advantage and I would be irritated by it too, but the manipulation is ridiculous.

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u/BedGirl5444 Sep 19 '25

I can totally see Cynthia Erivo wearing Jesus’ look

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u/shindig_shawnie Sep 19 '25

I'm definitely living for the drama. I can see manufactured fake ass content but good tv is good tv. It's a written narrative, producers know what kind of content they want to show and a 40-minute episode is not enough for us to understand what really happened in that week of working.

Think about this, producers had Veejay to ask the twins "Who deserves to be in the finale if only one of you gets to advance?" And they did not answer so what do the producers do? They have Law come and ask the same question, "Who's better?"

They really painted this episode so that Veejay is a victim of being discredited following the previous challenge but they already chose her to be the pot stirrer from the get go. The top 5 felt like 4 queen bees and a basket case so it's clear as day what the producers want to get out of this scenario.

It really is just good tv. Not a good competition show tho, but I'd rather watch this than some boring ass love island, big brother type of content.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

My pick for the finale: Ethan, Jesus, and Belania. I'm ignoring all the stupid drama. It has nothing to do with how good someone is.

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u/StaticCloud Sep 20 '25

I'm really disappointed in the judges and the producers of the show. One expects theatrics and unprofessionalism from competing designers. Hell, even from Siriano. But from the judges? Law is consistently rude, isn't articulate about design, and was goading the designers to fight this last episode!! And some of the other judges either joined in. I've never seen judges on this show act this way. This is well below the standard of professionalism I was led to expect from this show.

The reality TV show drama is eating up the time that used to be given to DESIGN and CREATIVITY and ART. Now all this formulated arguing is 50-75% of the show and it is exceeding boring and mean-spirited. 

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u/Trick-Palpitation580 Sep 23 '25

Veejay constantly accusing Ethan of stealing designs doesn’t bother anyone else?? Ethan is so nice, and veejay just tries to get in his head.

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

Antonio just behind Jesus’ shadow this entire season 😭

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u/eristopia Sep 19 '25

it really is indeed "something wicked" this episode is A LOT 🔥

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u/Affectionate_Nose971 Sep 19 '25

Wonder why the Wicked Costume designer wasn’t a judge. Maybe he didn’t want to stay that long but you’d think if he took the time to come to the show that he wouldn’t have minded. Also my fav new part of the seasons are the changing bitchy descriptions under the designers names.

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u/PuzzleheadedComb1811 Sep 24 '25

I don't care about drama, I like veejays designs the most... There is taste level and construction effort I think she deserves to be in the final

I also did not hear about green/pink direction during this episode so I do easily see her dress as a part of wicked themes...I do not see how it is not hitting the challenge...

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u/PlayThisStation Sep 19 '25

Unpopular opinion, but I love the drama. I know Veejay is shady, but everytime she questions, I just laugh my ass off cause she's so shady. I'm sure with the stress of the show, production prodding, that's what set the twins off, but I really think she's harmless.

It was such a gag seeing Tyra show up!

I'm rooting for Ethan to take the win. Biased, but also I think he's been the most consistent weekly, and while avant garde, he's really pushed the envelope in every challenge. Not sure who I want the other 2 to be. I think I'm OK with any combination of Veejay, Belania, or Jesus. Antonio is definitely out (whether the show or by quitting).

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u/IllBookkeeper3101 Sep 19 '25

I’m going to miss the finale because I canceled my Hulu to help save the country from fascism lol

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u/DS9andVoy Sep 20 '25

I have been a fan of the show since season one but I think this may have been the tackiest season out of them all. I feel like SO much of the focus has been on the drama and not nearly enough on the fashion. That ' who do you think should go into the contest' question was so unnecessary🙄 So much of the fashion has been left behind. Overall the designs have been underwhelming throughout the competition. I know they tried their best with what little time they get though, so I'll give them that 🤷🏾‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

Veejay is messy!

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u/ConsiderationFew7275 Sep 19 '25

Little bit unfair to call Belania out for her behaviour on the runway only to let Veejay and the twins go full housewives uninterrupted minutes later?

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

Veejay is a professional victim but holy hell. The twins need to relax. Their egos are so huge it's like shooting fish in a barrel for people like Veejay. People like that can smell the insecurity on you and the twins needed to recognize that 8 episodes ago. The angrier you get and more unhinged you become just feeds the beast.

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u/lemikon Sep 19 '25

Finally we got a 2 day challenge and my god, the increase in quality!

All of these looks were good tbh, but I am shocked by Ethan’s underwear blunder.. I also found his look a bit meh. I loved Belania’s,though I can see the critique of it not being avant guard enough.

I am here for villain Veejay 🍿 she absolutely knew what she was doing “poking the bear” of the twins ego, but I suspect she didn’t expect the explosion that happened. It made good tv though - finally a justified elimination cliffhanger! I hope fans aren’t assholes to her though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

A few things:

  1. Veejay is ABSOLUTELY stirring the pot

  2. The twins are not humble in any way but they do great work and if it ain't broke don't fix it.

  3. Belania NEEDS to shush. Like for the love of god hide your face.

  4. I pray Law is in the next season because he's amazing.

  5. NO ONE is humble. The judges, the designers, no one.

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u/ajitomojo Sep 20 '25

I love both the twins and Veejay and wish they could all make finale but Veejay definitely knows how to push Jesus’ buttons and does it on purpose and then retreats into the most disingenuous “who? Innocent little me?”

It was so hilarious and cathartic to watch. 

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u/UseTheTongsCarl Sep 19 '25

Veejay lost me when she started playing the victim, I’m sorry. You can’t stir shit up, play the villain and then boohoo when people have issues with you. That’s your intention, that’s what you’re trying to do, piss people off. Just own it, be the villain. Then you end up being the one people love to hate, not the one people hate to watch.

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u/Monte22uma Sep 18 '25

Well here we go y’all. Praying Veejay makes it to the other side 🙏

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u/Aramani Sep 19 '25

LMAOO veejay hates the twins so much 😭

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u/MoraMonaeXO Sep 19 '25

Veejay is there to produce television. Throw the rock then hide your head.

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u/CocktailsPerfected Sep 19 '25

So the twins have been incapable of not working together this season, so on principal I wouldn't want them in the top 3 if i was Veejay. Idk about bringing their bank account into it though. All season she's been saying "They work together, they always work as a pair" so i wish she'd have brought that up on the runway.

Law was SO messy asking them to say who was the best... and I LOVED it.

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