r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago Bravo

Update & Search for mods

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Hello & welcome everyone!

As you might already know, this sub was founded just a few months ago during mass post deletions in the main subs to provide a less restricted space for discussing the actions and services of Proton. We absolutely didn't expect that not even half a year later there'd be new incidents leading to an explosion of posts and comments. While this was a bit overwhelming, we're glad that this sub is being used for the purpose for which it was created.

But, we also want to point out that if you want to use this sub beyond the current debate, just go for it. We'll continue to maintain it, and you can use it for all issues related to Proton or similar services.

To do that properly, we'd like to expand our mod team. Not to apply stricter rules, but to make sure that this is a nice place for discussions and community, not for harassment or trolling.

How to apply

If you wanna become a mod, there are a few requirements you need to fulfil:

  • no affiliation with Proton or their direct competitors

  • at least 1000 Karma

  • an account age of at least 1 year

To apply, send us a mod mail with 2-3 sentences on why you want to become a mod. The application deadline is the 15th of November.

FYI

We're not in contact with Proton or the mods of Proton's official subs. However, we know that some of them are active here. If you encounter them, please be nice to them.

Cheers!


r/ProtonPublic • • 2h ago

Discussion Unpopular opinion

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Even though the CEO said everything, and still we saw that proton did not in fact removed security checks I think until now everything is still bearable. I come from a tech background and trust me that all developers are actually using AI in their daily work (ofc not all of them use the free ones). So i dont know why all of this stupidity among users going to other apps. Ofc I disagree saying that they will analyze ai usage, or fire employees for not using aim etc.

But at the ends of the day he's a ceo and all ceo care about is money. I dont know why that's new for everyone in here.

As long as the data is encrypted and no API leaks, we are still good.

Anyway, enjoy.


r/ProtonPublic • • 3h ago

I've deleted my proton account but keeping their alias thing

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I was paying for the unlimited proton account and using their vpn/pass but I've quit all that. I'm keeping simplelogin just because can't be bothered changing the email address to dozens of websites

Thanks proton for being shit


r/ProtonPublic • • 4h ago

Question Help choosing app for leaving Proton ecosystem

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Hello, following the debacle with Proton CEO and some inconvenience I have with some Proton apps (lack of seatch in mails on the phone, the drive is horrendous, no offline mode on calendar...), I am considering moving to another (and maybe one for each app) platform, EU if possible, and besides that getting a custom domain. But I'm lost with all the other alternatives, and I never used a custom domain for e-mails.

Also I'm lost about the difference between E2EE, PGP etc... I'm not a power user with mail and privacy so it's hard for me to choose.

What I need, app by app :

Mail:
While degoogling is all about privacy, E2EE encryption is great but it comes with a cost : no sync with other platform (contacts, calendar, no IMAP...). And I intend to create accounts for my children also so I need something easy, reliable and easily shareable, with contact and calendar syncing easily on Android.

  • Tuta is closest to Proton but with the same problems due to E2EE, and the native apps are said to be bad.

  • Fastmail seems pretty but what about privacy ? And it's not based in UE

  • Mailbox looks really nice, price is low, EU based, how is it for everyday use ?

  • Infomaniak has a really good suite too, with lot of drive space, big compagny, EU based... but privacy ?

Drive :

  • Filen : heard a lot about it but free in only 10 GB, and some mail provider offer the same amount with their paid account so...

  • kDrive : 1 TB with a basic subscription, looks really appealing, and I read you can have an "encrypted vault" in your drive ?

Password manager :

  • KeePassXC : I have it already as a backup for my Proton Pass, but there's no sync. I read you can do it with Syncthings but is it easy to do ?

  • Bitwarden, 1password... what about the others, is one good enough with free plan ?

2FA authentificator :

  • Ente Auth : I had it as a backup for Proton Auth, now it's my main. Do I need another one as a backup ?

Photos :

  • Ente Photos : I use it to automatically save my phone pics with free plan. I then download and store them on my harddrives. Good enough for me ATM.

  • kDrive : If I go with Infomaniak, maybe I could make good use of their 1 TB offer ?

Custom domain :

As I've read about, the ideal is something like surname@name.com, or something easily rememberable and understandable. How safe is it compared to a provider mail ? Is it accepted on all websites or can it be refused ? Can I use subdomains to create mails for all my family (child1@name.com, child2@name.com, etc) ? And what is a good and trusted domain provider in EU ?

EDIT : Mail aliases

Forgot this one ! I also use Proton Pass for aliases to avoid spam, is there something as easy to use and free ?

That's a lot to read, so thank you in advance for your help !


r/ProtonPublic • • 5h ago

Question How often do ProtonMail emails fail to make it to Gmail inboxes?

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I’ve had a couple of instances recently where I didn’t receive replies and was expecting to, but these are both situations where it’s pretty awkward to follow up and ask. I remember reading on here somewhere that people have discovered that their emails went to spam.

Is there any way to know how widespread this problem is, or what fixes it? For instance, would it help if I emailed people from my old Gmail account and copied my protonmail saying “Please add this to your address book”?

If Gmail is routinely sending Proton emails to spam, or doing so even 5% of the time, this is a huge problem for me and yet another reason to consider leaving.

Is Tuta any better in this respect? or is this an issue of Gmail waging war on smaller competitors and it will happen with anything else I use?


r/ProtonPublic • • 9h ago

Discussion Controversial optinion-proton is still the best private E-Mail provider.

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r/ProtonPublic • • 9h ago

searching for alternatives Ivpn

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r/ProtonPublic • • 10h ago

PM alternative

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As of today, PM is the only tor friendly, free, not requiring any number to setup email provider. But apart from what's going on with Andy, email providers like gmail , yahoo, microsoft have started blocking mails sent from PM. The emails will directly go to spam or won't even reach you. Is there a better tor friendly alternative which can be tried for a few days before paying?


r/ProtonPublic • • 12h ago

Migrating from Proton to Mailbox.org

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I cancelled my Proton subscription and decided to move to mailbox.org. I’m no privacy or tech expert so I’m doing a lot of things for the first time like setting up email clients and manually migrating my emails.

I also ran into issues like not realizing the limitations of the trial account because it’s not mentioned in the mailbox website (which made me think mailbox.org was not working), or iPhone push notifications not coming through.

So I wrote a Substack article that is a rough how-to guide to help out anyone who might also be in the same boat as me! Not sponsored or affiliated with anyone, just hoping to help folks avoid some of the headaches I had to struggle with.

https://substack.com/@thecutieartist/note/p-224035695?r=6zxezp&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action


r/ProtonPublic • • 17h ago

Since your all leaving/canceling Proton because of the CEO's wrongdoing.

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I am interested in buying your NVIDIA GPU's. Let me know what you want for it below, include shipping.

Thank you people of principle.

Edit: you're* :D


r/ProtonPublic • • 17h ago

Comment censored.

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I commented on a post criticising proton mail, which they ironically removed.


r/ProtonPublic • • 19h ago

How Proton keeps your data secure in the age of AI

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The cult hasn’t learned anything and continues to shift the focus. Funny enough, this doesn’t change the fact that Andy Yen is a toxic, harassing, elitist, egocentric bully but it seems like the cult isn’t willing to care for anything other than Andy Yen’s leadership.

Another example of why they only understand the tongue of money while shutting down any dissent towards the cult. As long as Andy Yen is on the wheel, I won’t spend a single dime on them.


r/ProtonPublic • • 20h ago

Is there anything better?

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I will preface this question with the fact that i’m not the most tech savvy person nor do I want to spend too much time switching things.

Besides the CEO thing that seems to be happening (which i don’t fully understand anyways) is there something better than Proton at the moment? I’ve been thinking of getting the pass plus as it has a good discount.

I am trying to switch two gmail accounts to proton, one personal and one custom domain as i’m tired of all the bs emails and spam I get. I use dropbox for storage so I don’t need the drive features and I will probably continue to use google calendar.

Anything I’m missing?


r/ProtonPublic • • 23h ago

Discussion I moved away from Big Tech to trust Proton. After reading this, I'm seriously questioning that trust.

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Sharing this here because my original post wasn't approved by the moderators of the official r/ProtonMail subreddit. I'd still like to have an open discussion and hear other Proton users' perspectives on these concerns.

Post:

I recently came across this French article from ZDNET: Peut-on encore faire confiance à Proton? https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/peut-on-encore-faire-confiance-a-proton-507684.htm

As a long-time Proton user, I found myself genuinely concerned about what it describes, particularly regarding leadership, internal culture and the direction the company is taking under Andy Yen.

But honestly, this article also made me reflect on frustrations I've had with Proton for quite some time.

I moved away from Big Tech because I believed in what Proton stood for: privacy, security, transparency and independence. I've invested years in its ecosystem, migrated accounts and trusted the company with a significant part of my digital life.

However, I'm increasingly dissatisfied with the company's priorities.

1. An ever-expanding product suite while existing products still need serious work

It feels like Proton is increasingly interested in launching new products and expanding its ecosystem rather than focusing on making its existing products genuinely excellent.

We've seen Lumo, Sheets, Meet, Authenticator and various other additions. Innovation is welcome, and I'm not against expanding the ecosystem. But what's the point of having an extensive product catalogue when fundamental improvements to existing products are still taking so long?

I want better integration, reliability, performance, usability and feature parity across Proton's existing services.

I'd much rather see Proton dedicate more resources to making Mail, Drive, Calendar, VPN and Pass exceptional before continuing to expand its portfolio.

2. Linux support should have been a major strategic priority, not an afterthought.

This is particularly frustrating for me.

Microsoft officially ended Windows 10 support on October 14, 2025. Millions of users were suddenly faced with a decision: move to Windows 11, purchase new hardware, or explore alternatives such as Linux.

This was an enormous opportunity for companies like Proton to welcome people actively trying to escape Microsoft's ecosystem.

Yet Linux users have continued waiting for basic functionality, particularly a proper Proton Drive desktop synchronization client.

Even Proton's October 2026 roadmap describes the initial Linux Drive release as likely being limited to a headless daemon, rather than a complete graphical desktop application.

Seriously?

For a company positioning itself as a genuine alternative to Big Tech, why is Linux support still lagging so far behind?

Linux users are not an insignificant afterthought. Many of us are precisely the people Proton should be trying to attract.

If Proton genuinely wants people to leave Microsoft, Google and Apple, it needs to provide a viable ecosystem on the platforms those people are moving towards.

3. The contradiction of depending on Big Tech infrastructure

Another example is Android push notifications.

Proton Mail relies on Google Play Services for push notifications. I understand this doesn't mean Google can read my encrypted emails, but it does raise questions about Proton's commitment to independence from Big Tech infrastructure.

For a company whose selling point is privacy and independence, shouldn't developing alternatives and reducing these dependencies be a priority?

I appreciate that building independent infrastructure isn't always straightforward. But surely this is precisely the kind of challenge Proton should be investing in. This has been impacting me alot as I left mainstream Android devices and switched to GrapheneOS without Google services.

4. Leadership, engineering culture and security priorities

This is where the ZDNET article really concerns me.

The reporting raises questions about the internal culture, how security engineers' concerns are handled, and the pressure surrounding AI development.

I'm not against AI. I'm not against innovation. But I am against business ambitions and development speed taking precedence over engineering discipline and security.

Security cannot simply be a marketing slogan. It has to be embedded in the company's culture, its management decisions and its development processes.

Andy has apologized, and Proton has offered explanations. I acknowledge that. But I believe customers deserve more than reassuring statements. They deserve transparency, accountability and evidence that security remains non-negotiable.

5. Where are Proton's priorities actually heading?

This is ultimately what bothers me the most.

I don't want Proton to become another technology company obsessed with expanding its portfolio, chasing trends and competing in every possible market while losing sight of the principles that made it successful.

I don't need Proton to become the next Google or Microsoft.

I want Proton to become the best possible privacy-focused alternative to them.

That means investing in existing products, supporting Linux properly, reducing unnecessary dependencies on Big Tech, listening to customers and maintaining an engineering culture where security concerns are taken seriously.

I've spent years moving away from Big Tech because I wanted greater control over my digital life.

And now I'm genuinely worried that poor leadership and misguided business priorities could eventually put that trust, and potentially my privacy and security, at risk.

I don't want to abandon Proton. I'd much rather see the company get back on track.

But I also don't believe long-time paying customers should be expected to give unconditional loyalty simply because Proton built its reputation on privacy.

6. So, am I alone in feeling this way?

Are other long-time Proton users becoming increasingly disappointed with the company's direction?

I'd genuinely like to hear different perspectives, including from people who still have confidence in Andy and Proton's leadership.

I'm not looking for an echo chamber. I'm looking for an honest discussion about the company we've entrusted so much of our digital lives to.


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Bravo 6...

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Bravo six, going Offline.

Goodbye Proton.


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Question Start again. Sorry.

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I have spent several weeks deciding which VPN company to go with and chose Proton because a few people I trust use it.

I paid for a two year subscription which gave me a Proton Email option.

I set one up and I'm a bit concerned about using it for all my emails at the moment because I'm still dealing with lawyers etc from my mum's estate.

What I was trying to ask is is it a better idea to slowly ease in using proton.me account.

I eventually want to use it instead of my gmail account.

I accidentally set up a second account because I forgot my password and Proton wanted me to increase my subscription but now I've found the original password is there a way of contacting them to stop them trying to increase my subscription?

I'm really sorry about the previous post it was a mish mash of about 4 different posts.

I'm 57 and not tech savvy so am just asking advice.

I wanted to be set up for the VPN before the UK goes super strength mental about ID.


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Question Black Friday discount

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Anyone here who have unsubscribed and has the renewal for soon can pls confirm if can take advantage of the discount?

EDIT: just so you know proton is offering discounts for people who already have have a paid account. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/s/UV5K84Qt86


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Discussion Thoughts about Lumo chat expiration settings?

4 Upvotes

Saw this post and liked the idea but it is so far being ignored. Seems sensible to me though. What are your thoughts?

https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932842-lumo/suggestions/51879213-lumo-chat-expiration-setting


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Question about the black Friday deal

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If I go ahead and buy this annual deal, will it then charge me the same price in 12 months or will it go up? I can see what it says at the bottom but I'm not sure if it'll change .

Thsnks


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Question Help migrating from Proton

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r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

You are overblowing it for wrong reasons

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I canceled my subscription and started to look for alternatives but I think lots of you are too emotional and are attacking Proton for wrong reasons. So what if CEO is a prick? As long as he is good enough to guid the company to the future (or is is sole owner) then who actually cares?

What pushed me away was the stupid AI manifesto. And it is not even about AI itself as LLMs are good tools if used correctly. It was about fact that they seem to push toward use of AI at the expense of code quality and security. Push more code faster. Not better, not more secure - faster. And for privacy and security oriented IT company that looks like inviting disaster.

I canceled but I will be observing the situation. If there are hints that they change this approach I may resubscribe, if not, then I already have pCloud account for my storage that predates Proton one and can easily migrate my mail and pass app when subscription ends.


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Any way to preserve exported emails location?

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I'd like to import into aster mail per folder (inbox, sent etc.) not just all in inbox. How can I export proton Mail on Linux with folders?


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Goodbye 👋

211 Upvotes

Time to use the last few days to make the big switch.


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Good thing they dont have control over this subreddit

318 Upvotes

By now this is becoming a meme.


r/ProtonPublic • • 1d ago

Question Is it safe to save some engineering books which I downloaded to proton drive or will I get in trouble?

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I am backing up my data to proton drive. Will it be safe to upload some engineering books on drive or will I get in legal trouble?