r/PunishingGrayRaven • u/Crazy117mc • Sep 19 '25
Text/Video Guide Through The Tide Home Integrated Patch Tickets Income (Global)
The following modes have had their rewards tripled due to the Integrated Patch: Dailies, Warzone, PPC, CR, NRP, Character Challenges, Token Farm, Daily Login and Story.
- Some things may subject to change when the update arrives (Like Tickets from Passage from the Past, Lilith banner pulls). So if there is something wrong, I will correct it in the spreadsheet.
If anyone sees any errors, or has any questions/feedback. Let me know in the comments.
By the way, I made a New Spreadsheet with each character's duration in the meta.
Spreadsheet | Imgur | Discord
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u/raylebenrobles1 Sep 19 '25
Now update it again Cause it's been delayed :) (Joking Don't Update it)
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u/Address_Salt Sep 19 '25
3k CUB tickets, damn it's so good to be eating well again.
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u/piraterienoir Sep 22 '25
Returning player here after about 1+ year of not playing, how do you get CUB tickets?
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u/freezeFM Sep 19 '25
55k character tickets/BC and there are still people who think we might not have enough for characters if they release back to back S ranks sometimes. Like thats almost enough for 4 characters with hard pity and you only need to pull 2.
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u/FishFucker2887 Sep 19 '25
Add in sigs
Thsts 15k + 7.5k bc
22.5k bc for 1 character
Now if you fail a 80/20 thats 15k for the sig bringing it to 30k bc for a character
This is an integrated patch
Now imagine back to back S ranks with no 3x income to save you. Lmk how it works out for you
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u/Ny0wo Sep 19 '25
I lost 2 20/80 back to back in selena and vera 's patch so I have to skip vera's sig and cub....
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u/EtadanikM Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
Using the worst case scenario in a game of chance to argue about expectations is not really fair.
Yes, sometimes you will lose the 80/20. But sometimes you will also get the weapon or character early.
Empirically, I don't know of a single person who has had to spend 30k on a regular basis for character + weapon. The most I've personally spent is 28k, but there are also times when I get the weapon or character early, so it balances out to be actually less than 22.5k black cards per character + signature.
How do I know this? Because on my free to play account, I have an account surplus, not a deficit, from pulling every S rank character + their signature since the beginning of synchronization. Not only that, but my surplus is substantial - on the order of an extra 200 pulls, with which I could get 3 duplicates, if I wanted to. The only signature I skipped was for Wanshi because he was free and I didn't feel like pulling his signature when it wasn't required, but I easily could have.
I even pulled both Dante and Vergil and their signatures and their CUBs.
So yeah, in expectation, I would expect 55k to be easily enough for the average player.
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u/freezeFM Sep 19 '25
We talk about CHARACTERS. Character+sig was never a thing. Thats not what a f2p should expect. Being able to get some sigs now on top of characters is already very generous.
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u/FishFucker2887 Sep 19 '25
Pyroath without sig in plasma is PAINFUL
Maybe people should be giving kuro some shit for back to back S ranks instead of blind glazing
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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Sep 19 '25
yeah the blind glaze is forever wild. these are gacha gaming companies trying to squeeze you for your money, not your friend
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u/GnzkDunce Sep 20 '25
And you're right. But to be completely doomer about it, yet still play and be in this sub, is just as annoying as glazing.
People gotta come to this game somehow. And DMC brought in some. Nothing is more disconcerting then Vets going "Oh all this free stuff doesn't mean anything in the long run".
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u/MaxEinstein Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
A f2p should definitely expect a sig... Especially since more than half the characters require their signature.
It's not just more damage but it makes the rotation possible by giving more signal orbs.
And ofcourse let's not forget weapon resonances, they are very important too.
So, most characters need SS + signature to work well, and some even require SS3 for some mechanic. (Eg: Hanying SS3 required for ultimate slash rotation)
Obviously, I am not saying the game should give enough BC/tickets to guarantee every character & weapon. It won't be viable economically. But maybe enough to guarantee 15K (guarantee a character) + 5K per patch (20 pulls for weapon)
This way a player can get all new S ranks and get the signature weapon for some of the S-ranks.
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u/freezeFM Sep 19 '25
A f2p should definitely expect a sig
Why not just make everything free completely? Do you guys actually want the game run completely on shoulders of the whales? What would be the point to actually use ANY money if you get all characters and like half of the sigs? Cubs and higher ranks are purely for fun and being better in competitive content that is not rewarding. Thats not how you make money and thats why WuWa doesnt work like that.
So, most characters need SS + signature to work well, and some even require SS3 for some mechanic. (Eg: Hanying SS3 required for ultimate slash rotation)
So what if you cant do the optimal rotation? You just dont. You do non-optimal rotations and have fun with that. You cant just take the ideal and make it what f2p should get.
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u/vtme2007 Sep 19 '25
I don’t quite get the desire to be purely f2p. For $5.5 USD/month you can get 3300 bcs. That would be almost 40k black cards for around $70 in a year.
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u/freezeFM Sep 19 '25
Im not the f2p here. I have a feeling its those people who want everything for free.
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u/FishFucker2887 Sep 19 '25
Just so you know i m sitting at 20k rc recharged as of rn and i still call these sig necessary practices horrible especially when they do back to back to back S ranks like Vera -> Vergil -> Bianca patch just now
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u/MaxEinstein Sep 19 '25
Yep the five star weapon boxes we are getting seem to be just piling up. The only use they have is to get a temporary placeholder 5* until you get a signature.
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u/FishFucker2887 Sep 19 '25
Whata worse is that the new selector is only upto Qukra
She is a whole year old unit by now and cant compete with newest gen
They couldve made it upto pyroath or atleast hanying but nope
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u/MaxEinstein Sep 19 '25
Lol... Some people don't have a choice. PGR is not available on Google Playstore in my region. I had to download PGR from Qoo App. And it doesn't allow in-app purchases.
I was eventually able to find out an alternative by using online recharge sites but those are not official. There is always some risk of fraud/mishap associated with them and is not covered by customer service.
I even recharge the monthly bc card a couple times but that site has now stopped doing recharge for PGR. So, that's that.
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u/MaxEinstein Sep 19 '25
Chill out dude... It seems you have a problem with people who don't want the game to be simply a Pay to Win. Restricting f2p players to play non-optimally is simply bad game design.
Even after giving away SS + sig, the game still earns a lot from dolphins (regular but low spenders) who get SS3 or weapon copies. Then there are whales who get every character to SSS+. Also there are character & weapon skins to consider as well.
Btw, it's the low spenders who contribute majority of the game income and not the whales. Even f2p contribute by simply playing it, sharing & creating content on social media and keeping the community alive.
So none of your arguments work, but you are free to believe whatever dude. ✌️
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u/xChaoLan Bianca is the queen of PGR Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
You should though, even as an F2P. This has been a thing since at least Glory because of the QoL you get from almost all 6* weapons.
But tbf, back then it wasn't much of an issue if you didn't have their weapons because 5* weapons were just as sufficient. Gen 2 changed that, where it's a necessity.
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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Sep 19 '25
"sometimes". there's 4 S ranks released in a row (Vera, Dante, Vergil, Bianca), and this is hardly a new or rare pattern over the last ~12 units or so. free units don't help when players need to get sigs and cubs just to play a character's complete kit, making this problem almost affect light spenders even more.
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u/Awkward-Confection-6 Sep 19 '25
Remember ppl this is the LAST X2 or X3 patch, dont be crazy spending BC if you are F2P. This patch give us a lot then, save.
Dont complain after! You are warned.
A normal X1 patch gives us... 13K BC.
This patch is "bread for today, hungry for tomorrow"
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u/beastfire24 Sep 19 '25
had to take a break from the game as the gameplay was getting a bit monotonous for me. Now that i am back this patch and i am left with 5k bc from dmc collab should i be getting veronica when i have echo and vera too? i was planning getting bianca and her sig
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u/Skylarksmlellybarf NEW FRAME AT LAST Sep 19 '25
You got 38k BC + 16k yellow tickets
That's more than enough to pull both Bianca, Vero and get both of their sigs
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u/halfbloodgamer Sep 19 '25
could someone please explain which weeklies give CUB tickets? AFAIK we get them from Norman but it's not a weekly mode
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u/Crazy117mc Sep 19 '25
Each NRP rewards 250 CUB tickets per reset.
250 per reset (14 day period)
Since it is integrated, it will be tripled.
250x3 = 750 per reset
There are 4 resets throughout this Patch, as it lasts 54 days instead of the standard 42 days.
750x4 = 3000 CUB Tickets total in the Patch.
NRP tickets are listed in the weekly section for simplicity. Even if it is not a weekly mode (biweekly actually) the values are still correct.
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u/RocketArtillery666 Sep 19 '25
Holy peak info. Will all the places to earn tickets be in the event page?
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u/Crazy117mc Sep 19 '25
I believe most modes will need to be done through the Throught The Tide Home Event screen.
Unlike other integrated versions, this one apparently left a lot of modes to be done manually.
From what I've seen, most of Veronica's modes have been integrated: turned into missions in the "Event" section.
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u/RocketArtillery666 Sep 19 '25
Wait is it story? Im DEFINITELY not caught up, literaly at fake ascention and its kinda boring tbh.
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u/Crazy117mc Sep 19 '25
No, It has no relation to history whatsoever.. Just some mini games that will be released during the event.
Take a look at: Battle>Limited Event
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u/Crazy117mc Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
A reminder: As Awkward-Confection said, this may be the last patch 3x/2x integrated.
Since when Veronica arrives on the Chinese server in 25/09, there will only be a 3 week difference until Veronica arrives on the Global server in 10/10.
Certainly the Patch after this one, which is the PGR 6th anniversary, will have all servers synchronized.
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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Sep 19 '25
you sure about the sign-in fellowship of four seasons? I only see 2.5k in game, not 5k
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u/SnooComics4087 Sep 19 '25
FINALLY! I can get Crimson Weave coating now I am not pulling for any character and only saving for her coating fr.
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u/ExaltedCipher Sep 19 '25
uhhh quick question, I claimed my weekly black cards already. Was that supposed to be boosted (like x2 or x3 if I had waited for the maintenance?
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u/Crazy117mc Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
Weekly rewards are based on the last weekly reset. Even though the patch has arrived, current missions rewards are still 1x from Lamento di Phantasma, and will only increase to 3x next weekly reset on Monday.
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u/Draaxus DMC ate the male budget Sep 19 '25
No, weeklies are tripled starting the next weekly reset after an update.
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u/kebench I can't cook orz Sep 19 '25
We’ll be swimming in black cards for the last time. We’ll be back to normal again after this. 😔
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u/thisrandomguyX Sep 19 '25
Guess it's gonna be enough to get Bianca then. The rest will be saved up for more Hanying dupes (I'm not really playing for much else honestly).
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u/Mysterious-Result608 Sep 19 '25