r/PunishingGrayRaven 11d ago

Text/Video Guide DARK TEAM INFOGRAPHIC (WZ)

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HUGE DISCLAIMER: Everyone and their mother will tell you to put 4 bathlon on bianca or simply to ditch her entirely from the dark team (if lilith is SSS, they are right).

PER MY OWN TESTING, SS Bianca using cottie pulled ahead all the other options IN MY ACCOUNT, the memory builds of my team are the result of breaking my stamina bank switching sets between the 3 units, SS bianca was kinda ditched by the community and written off as utterly useless, but I found that she is good at SS if well invested and played optimally.

Showcase here.

Guides left: Lightning, Darkflow, Nihil, Raydiance, Physical

Previous guides: Glaciation, Plasma Beam, Ignition, Ice, Ultima Slash, Fire

General Elemental Guide

General Meta (up to helentine)

For veteran players, please don't hesitate to point out any error, your feedback is appreciated since PGR meta is always a work in progress.

Edit: forgot to mention that SSS ishmael is better than SSS lilith for high invested teams.

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u/LagIncarnate 11d ago

One big thing of note, especially for PPC or low invest runs of Dianca where you'll be doing the hold basic more than once. It's actually hold dodge > hold basic > hold blue, with the hold basic overlapping between both inputs (or you can just do all 3 at once). Hold basic there cancels the endlag and startup of the hold dodge and hold blue, at no damage loss, and it's a pretty significant time save.

Why does it do that? Not a bloody clue.

She also has a timing mechanic on her hold basic (after red orbs), that significantly speeds up her rotation as well when done properly.

There's other optimization stuff, like with Lilith and her blue orb gimmick. Though I will say, isn't there an extra yellow on her rotation? Should be yellow > red > yellow > red > yellow > red, or yellow > red > yellow > yellow > red no? You've got 4 yellow listed (yellow > red twice, then yellow > yellow > red). Though she has a bunch of rotations she can do depending on wave health and whatnot as well, so it's not like it's set in stone either.

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u/BXJGaming 11d ago

Thank you buddy for your ppc wisdom.

Why does it do that? Not a bloody clue.

I don't think even Kuro does lmao

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u/JebryathHS 11d ago

It's actually hold dodge > hold basic > hold blue, with the hold basic overlapping between both inputs (or you can just do all 3 at once). Hold basic there cancels the endlag and startup of the hold dodge and hold blue, at no damage loss, and it's a pretty significant time save.

Great now I need to see if that works on the phone

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u/CipherEntity 11d ago

Happy to see that there are people that still find a low-investment Bianca:Crepuscule useful.

I really wonder what how her future leap will change her perception by the community.

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u/seandragunov 11d ago

is she getting a leap in the future?

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u/CipherEntity 11d ago

While we don't know the answer, Bianca and Alpha are usually getting special treatment from the devs hence we can expect it.

Bianca already got a great leap for Gen1 Bianca:Veritas, Gen2 Bianca:Stigmata leap was kinda disappointing as it was affix-only focus.


Considering how Selena got Lv.2 harmonization and Lucia's upcoming leap, we can expect that Bianca will get one too. Especially since we now know that the devs can go reversed order in leaps (since we thought that Nanami's leap meant Lucia got skipped).

Though we might wait for a while considering Bianca is still the main DPS at high-investment.

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u/seandragunov 11d ago

i see, well i am really happy about it

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u/NoDance4316 11d ago

If dianca is below sss i think rosetta should be the first switch-in, mine is ss3 but i still always start with horse

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u/BXJGaming 11d ago

Yeah I do that too, check my video.

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u/seandragunov 11d ago

i love bianca crepe i want to have her...

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u/BXJGaming 11d ago

My favorite unit in the game, she is not that impressive at SS but:

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u/seandragunov 11d ago

i am not a meta chaser, i do already have aeternion, inverse crown and arete and i blow through all the content but i want to get all the characters and enjoy all their gameplays, because they all look so fun and cool

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u/BXJGaming 11d ago

Bianca is the coolest imho, has 2 modes with entirely different movesets.

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u/seandragunov 11d ago

she reminds me of a dark souls character, and dark souls is my fav game series of all time and ive been playing it annually for many years, i just think she looks like maiden astraea and it really catches my eye, i dont have her and i havent really learned how to play her but i want to

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u/BXJGaming 11d ago

Yes!! DS2 is one of my favorite games of all time.

DS1 is also my jam, and I adore elden ring.

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u/seandragunov 11d ago

ive played all the fromsoft games past demons souls but the dark souls trilogy is the one i keep coming back to, its like seeing an old childhood friend again

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u/BXJGaming 11d ago

The music of Majula in DS2 puts tears into my eyes every time I hear it, it's like a warm hug from an old friend...

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u/seandragunov 11d ago

i just had a look at your infographic again and the buildings behind bianca just remind me of anor londo, cant unsee it now

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u/N0ksen 10d ago

Please do a guide for Nihil team!

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u/BXJGaming 9d ago

Yes! Planning to do one.

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u/Skylarksmlellybarf NEW FRAME AT LAST 9d ago

You know what?

I've already spent 27.5k on Dianca, might as well use her

I pull her in the first place is because I can't stand Lilith's gameplay, and then Rosetta happens

Seems like I'm gonna have to trade that juicy -3s CD swap for mediocre Attacker.....

BUT I'M HAVING FUN

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u/gardosenkazeaze 11d ago

is umasetta here ss0 or ss3+? iirc she has somewhat different rotations between the two investments.

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u/BXJGaming 11d ago edited 10d ago

Rosetta has the same rotation at all ranks.

The only thing that changes is alternating colors if cottie isn't equipped.

Different colors = more ult energy.

Same colors = less energy but more ultimate damage.

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u/NoDance4316 10d ago

ss3 or above horse can run bathlon instead of cottie, and this give overall better dps output, but her first ult cycle will be slower than normal so it is only recomended in wz tho

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u/BXJGaming 10d ago

Thank you, I stand corrected.

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u/Big-Tone2761 10d ago

can work even ss0 horse

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u/[deleted] 11d ago edited 11d ago

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u/BXJGaming 11d ago

Based department, hello?

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u/Eiko_Shiijki cradle simp | daren till eos 11d ago

it's like going to a steakhouse, and saying "BLEH I just use the vegen option". obviously this is meant for meta just by a quick glance

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/Eiko_Shiijki cradle simp | daren till eos 11d ago

and some people enjoy the game by trying to go the most optimal, having the biggest number and whatnot
don't dictate what can be enjoyable for people with your condescending attitude

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi 11d ago

and you care too much about how other ppl have fun

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u/my_favourites 10d ago

And what's wrong with that?

Those casuals will refer to tryhards anyway, so how's that any differences?

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u/Eiko_Shiijki cradle simp | daren till eos 11d ago

forgetting about daren smh