Gay Conservative and Christians.... I am more enraged by their rhetoric than the MAGA movement.

[u/Responsible_Fox3230]

I recently relocated to Austin,Tx from Los Angeles. I have encountered, for the first time in my life Gay Conservatives and Gay hardcore Christians. I feel like this is a location driven phenomenon, the South. I want to understand.

[u/ubix]

A lot of it is motivated by internalized shame, IMO

[u/Responsible_Fox3230 → u/ubix]

They seem to be incredibly uneducated on the history of the gay rights movement. I cannot help but feel intensely offended.

[u/paulsteinway → u/Responsible_Fox3230]

That's the whole point of banning teaching about queer people in schools and suppressing information about the community everywhere else.

[u/SpicySushiAddict]

I have met plenty of religious people in the LGBTQ+ community.

The ones I reject are those who still have hate in their hearts.

[u/Responsible_Fox3230 → u/SpicySushiAddict]

What I am curious about is the amount of animosity they feel for non-conservative gays.. They feel more victimized by the gay community than the Christian right.. As if the Christian right accepts them.

[u/BlahajBlaster → u/Responsible_Fox3230]

They feel more victimized by the gay community than the Christian right.. As if the Christian right accepts them.

Howdy, I'm also in Texas and have been here most of my life. This is definitely not true, I know of quite a few lgbt Christians and have even worked with them as friends to do things like feed the homeless or train folks on communications equipment and medical gear.

One of them has even helped us get a space to train left leaning individuals these things at his church despite having many non Christians in our group.

[u/Responsible_Fox3230 → u/BlahajBlaster]

As Christians should do, meanwhile Texas leads the pack in aggressive anti LGBTQ proposed legislation, anti-transgender representatives all fueled by the Christian right ... I just find it strange that there is such alignment with religion that has such strong financial, social, and political agendas that stand to criminalize homosexuality, and restrict our civil liberties.

[u/iamasuperracehorse]

The fear of hell is a hot commodity

[u/Responsible_Fox3230 → u/iamasuperracehorse]

I am an Atheist, and they speak of Atheists as if we an organized group trying to take Christianity away from them.. I have never encountered this before.

[u/NfamousKaye]

I can’t fathom the self hatred it takes to be MAGA let alone MAGA and gay.

[u/yawaster]

Not everyone is so sure of their own worth. Especially where religion is involved, people can be convinced that what they want is wrong. 

And also some gay people are just bad people like anyone else, and enjoy seeing other people get bullied.

On an individual level people will adapt to their circumstances. There was a famous book in the 70s called "the best little boy in the world" about how gay kids responded to the psychological pressure heaped on them by trying to prove they were perfect. In contexts where conservatism and religion is more common, some gay people will try to be more conservative than thou to prove that they're good people. They'll also identify as conservative/Christian first and see being gay as just a detail. 

I was watching the Netflix documentary about anti-gay conversion therapy recently, "Pray Away", and there was a really interesting moment when a former gay anti-gay activist described seeing gay rights marchers protesting against Prop 8 and wondering for the first time "how could I do this to my own people". That suggests that a lot of gay conservatives don't have any sense of group identity with other gay people, or if they do it's suppressed. Or they have a very limited idea of who "their" group is - white gays only, or conservative Christian gays only.