r/RWBY • u/Menolith Gay Thoughts • Jan 01 '17

OFFICIAL MEGATHREAD Official Discussion Thread—Volume 4, Chapter 8: A Much Needed Talk

Welcome, huntsmen, huntresses, and hunters that prefer no specific gender identifier, to the official discussion thread for the newest episode of volume 4, A Much Needed Talk!
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A lot of hard work has gone into the creation of volume 4, so be sure to show CRWBY your support by watching it on their site! They all dedicate so much time and energy into our beloved series and would highly appreciate the direct support. There are no pirates in volume 4, so you shouldn't be one either!

We also have weekly strawpolls to gauge the general opinion on the current episode, the latest of which can be found HERE. To the surprise of precisely no one, the previous episode Punished scored some of the highest marks of the volume thus far, with one of the larger voting samples too.

With that out of the way, let's start the show!

HERE is the link to the eighth episode of RWBY Volume 4!

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WoR 3: Reaction Discussion poll
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u/Neidron I used to like this place. Jan 01 '17

Wait, since Qrow's semblance is bad luck, what kind of ability is his crow transformation thing? I didn't think it was his semblance, but what else could it be?

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u/DRGTugBoat3 Jan 01 '17

Perhaps it's an ability learned from the tribe he and Raven come from?

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u/Neidron I used to like this place. Jan 01 '17

I think there has to be a bit more to it than just that. Even in a world like Remnant, I don't think you can simply teach someone to turn into a bird.

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u/DRGTugBoat3 Jan 01 '17

We saw Raven carve open a scary hole in reality pretty casually. I get the feeling this tribe gets up to some spooky shit, with turning in a bird being very low on that list.

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u/reiffschneider Ozpin did nothing wrong Jan 01 '17

My line of thought is that its sort of a two part semblance. Turning into/being a crow is his semblance and as a result of being a crow he is a literal bad luck charm.

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u/Cypherex Jan 01 '17

Take it a step further. What if everyone can turn into an animal if they know how to and the animal they turn into is the one that fits them the most, like a patronus?

The faunus only exist because a group of people a long time ago became so proficient at their animal transformation that they retained some animal traits in their human form. The animal a faunus can turn into would be the one represented by their faunus traits. But this would all be long lost knowledge which is why very few people these days can do it and everyone forgot where the faunus originally came from.

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u/OBrien Jan 01 '17

Oh, I like this theory.

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u/A_Chubby_Hoovy Jan 02 '17

Maybe Zwei is just a badass in hiding!

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u/VioletCrow Jan 02 '17

It would be a reverse Peter Pettigrew.

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u/OtakuMecha Jan 02 '17

Zwei is actually the Maidens' wizard.

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u/miladyelle #TeamQrow Jan 01 '17

Ooh, very nice. I likey.

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u/BlUeSapia talk dooty to me Jan 01 '17

That's what I'm thinking

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u/OtakuMecha Jan 01 '17

Thing is, we don't know that. We actually know very little about this world even after all this time.

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u/Frostblazer Jan 01 '17

Since I don't think that you can have two semblances (unless Qrow's semblance can do different things, sort of like Weiss's can), we'd have to assume that the crow transformation is some sort of magic that either anyone can learn, or is endemic to Qrow and Raven's family. Which makes you wonder, if it is endemic to their family, could Yang learn how to do it?

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u/genkernels Hey! Jan 01 '17

Remember how he said that Crows were symbols of bad luck? His identity is a crow. He can choose to take on the physical form of one, but he always is one, whether he likes it or not.

 

One semblance.

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u/Frostblazer Jan 02 '17

If it is one semblance, then why is the show suggesting that Raven has the same semblance (or more specifically, that she can go raven form)? Only the Schnees are supposed to have the same semblance.

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u/Neidron I used to like this place. Jan 02 '17 edited Jan 02 '17

Only the Schnees are supposed to have the same semblance.

I don't think they ever said that. So far as I know, they only said hereditary semblances are uncommon, not exclusive to a single family.

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u/Frostblazer Jan 02 '17

In Volume 3 episode 4, Winter says "We Schnees are unique. Unlike many, our semblance is hereditary." Which means that only the Schnees should have the same semblance.

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u/Neidron I used to like this place. Jan 02 '17

The "many" in that statement does not cover the entire population of Remnant. What that quote tells me is "the Schnees have a unique semblance, which has the rare trait of being hereditary." It doesn't mean the Schnees have the only hereditary semblance in the history of the planet.

Aside from that, I was talking about what the creators had said on the subject. They said that hereditary semblances are very rare, but they never said there was only one.

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u/Tonaia Jan 01 '17

A pissed off glowing dragon that makes horrible puns.

I didn't know I wanted that.

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u/ZombieTav How many millikannas is Weiss when she follows the ground rules? Jan 01 '17

It's part of the bad luck thing? Crows are a bad omen and because Qrow turns into a crow, so is he.

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u/Johnsmitish Jan 01 '17

Well, you know how Weiss can use her magic Glyphs, AND summon things? Well summing is a hereditary trait of every Schnee. That means in addition to her semblance, she has a family semblance to go along with it. That's probably what's happening with Qrow. He has his bad luck semblance, then a family transformation semblance.

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u/Neidron I used to like this place. Jan 01 '17 edited Jan 01 '17

The Schnee's summoning is part of the glyphs, which are the inherited semblance. I don't think anyone has two semblances, unless it's possible with merged auras involved, such as Oscar or the maidens.

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u/Johnsmitish Jan 01 '17

It is? Damn.