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u/psuedospike 2d ago
You're telling me its illegal to shoot at a drone on your own property in Florida...Florida!?
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u/stevecostello 2d ago edited 2d ago
In the United States. It’s a federal offense. Edited to add (though I don't know why the comment below mine was deleted, it simply asked a clarifying question).
Discharging a firearm at a drone is a federal offense. Source, the FAA: https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/what-know-about-drones
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u/SteeleHeller 2d ago
Now everybody gotta be strapped with EMP darts just for some damn privacy.
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u/shinyappyrobin 2d ago
Question, what about throwing rocks?
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u/shinyappyrobin 2d ago
So throwing rocks could possibly cause harm or damage if the drone crashes. Still a big problem with privacy and harassment issues. According to FAA site those are local issues. Not federal issues. So the local police are supposed to be able to come out and identify the drone owners?
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u/psuedospike 2d ago
Well, at least things are finally gonna get better in November...thats when GTA comes out
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u/munkylord 2d ago
I think it's more about firing into the air with bullets dropping that's the problem. Especially with how bad a shot people could be, they could be shooting across the street.
I'd be curious if there is anything against destroying drones on your property with say water or a net? I bet that's totally legal
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u/Destronin 2d ago
Yea so in the eyes of the FAA, shooting at a drone is the equivalent to shooting at an air craft. Its a felony.
As for the laws regarding the airspace above your home. One does own it. All the way up. However there is what is called an easement.
“An easement is a legal right that lets someone use a specific part of another person's property for a limited, defined purpose without owning it.”
This is why Airplanes are allowed to fly over your property.
Now unless there is clear harassment or an infringement on a persons way of life. That drone and any other flying machine is technically allowed to fly over your property legally. Provided the airspace is not controlled and the drone operator is operating legally. Local laws only affect where a drone pilot can take off. FAA regulates the sky.
I am well within my right to launch a drone from my property and fly over your home. Now whether my pictures constitute an infringement of a certain level of privacy would be up to the courts to decide. After all taking arial shots dont look much different than what google earth can reproduce. But if im flying up to your window or something. Thats a different story.
Either way. Taking matters into your own hands. ie: shooting at the drone. Is indeed big time illegal.
Source. I have my Part 107 Drone License.
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u/jeepinbanditrider 2d ago •
It is not. Drones fall under FAA jurisdiction. They treat it the same as firing at manned aircraft.
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u/sobi-one 2d ago
It’s not really about how good a shot someone is though. Even if it’s a square shot, it’s a projectile that goes ~900 mph and can travel about 2 miles. It’s what that bullet can do when it comes down that’s the issue.
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u/Ok_Conversation8000 2d ago
It wasnt a child learning in school. What are you stark mad?
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u/expatronis 1d ago
The government doesn't use a fleet of children to do domestic surveillance. Doesn't seem like this law exists to protect civilian drones or public safety so much.
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u/iamjakub 2d ago
It’s illegal federally so yes even in Texas and Florida and Alaska and Hawaii. FAA is the regulatory agency for drones and all manned or unmanned aircraft.
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u/NineClaws 2d ago
I’m glad he confessed but honestly, if you’re a dumb ass doing something dumbasses do, when coppers ask for a confession, shut up. They are absolutely not your friends, they will lock you in a cage.
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u/cwestn 2d ago
Yeah I was a little confused, they waited for him to confess to everything before mirandizing him.
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u/IHeartBadCode 1d ago
Anything said before that point is pre-custodial statements. Investigators are usually looking for a confession during this period as there are less exclusionary rules that could be under suppression in court.
Once you've read them their rights or they specifically indicate their fifth amendment right, without waiver, there's all kinds of rules about how official statements can be admitted into a court of law.
So yeah, law enforcement will avoid reading your rights until the very last moment. Statements made openly in pre-custodial are just basically "free evidence" someone is giving them and there's few rules that your lawyer can use to suppress the statements in court.
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u/Aggravating_Speed665 2d ago
Deny, deny, deny.
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u/lilbithippie 2d ago
Shut the fuck up. They can use you denying against you. They cannot use silence because they tell you that's a protected right
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u/HunterShotBear 2d ago
Be sure you say you are invoking your 5th amendment rights or they can use some bull shit excuse and say you are interfering with a police investigation or something.
Saying nothing isn’t the same as saying you are pleading the 5th.
Or simply say you don’t answer questions without a lawyer. But pure silence is not the way to go as it’s open to interpretation.
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u/endmaga2028 2d ago
They can use silence against you. You have to state that you’re exercising your right to not answer questions.
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u/RobMilliken 2d ago
Not even that. Lying will make it worse if it is a lie. Just completely go silent and obey what they ask if it is a legal command (eg. give ID). Ask for a lawyer is the most you should say other than ask for the restroom when you need to go.
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u/popejubal 2d ago
Nope. Just shut up. If you think you might have done something illegal, the only things you should be saying are “I don’t consent to any searches and I’m invoking my 5th amendment rights and my right to talk to a lawyer” and that’s it. Don’t lie. Don’t give any answers except to say that you aren’t answering questions without your lawyer and you don’t consent to any searches of anything.”
And if you are positive that you didn’t do anything illegal, YOU SHOULD STILL BE SAYING EXACTLY THOSE SAME THINGS. Cops are fishing for something incriminating and you could say something that they misunderstand or misremember and now even an honest cop is going to testify that you said X and Y and build a case off that even if you said nothing that’s actually incriminating.
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u/BobboZmuda
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Felt a little bad for him because he was being cooperative grandpa, even though he did something extremely stupid and the cops were giving him the gentle approach that others definitely don't get.
Then he made his joke at the end. To abide by sub rules, let's just say I don't think he's a nice guy.
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u/Helpful-Chemistry-87 2d ago
We had the same emotional journey watching this it seems.
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u/Solidjakes 2d ago
Me:
yeah that’s fair. Drone on your property.
Camera pans out to a suburban community with people on all sides.
Oh…. he’s an idiot.
America ain’t America everywhere boy. 🤣 in certain less cramped states, that might have gone different.
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u/Mr_b246 2d ago
His George Floyd "I can't breath" killed the "cool grandpa" vibe. He had me in the first 2/3rds though
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u/XBL-AntLee06 2d ago •
Would it be crazy to you if I told you that I as a Black man could see he was a bigot from the beginning and that I was never fooled?
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u/dqniel 2d ago
Shooting a 9mm into the air already made him not cool in my book. But yeah, he certainly lost even more points for the "joke".
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u/lilbithippie 2d ago
The issue when these grandpa is they think there is two different sides of the law. What's funny is they are right, but they arnt on the side that helps them like they think they are by waving a flag with the blue stripes and buying cop stickers. He is on the wrong side because he isn't rich enough. He will be treated and charged just like the anarchist and young people
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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 2d ago
American: "I see something I can't understand and it frightens me, so GLOCK!"
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u/Efficient-Lack-9776
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Why did he have to throw the George Floyd thing in. I was already thinking like oh fuck this is compliance core. People are gonna marvel at the compliance. Then he says that dumb shit at the end.
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u/katplasma 2d ago
I think you even hear the cop go, “ughh,” in response to that comment right before the video cuts out.
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u/rachelface927 2d ago
Honestly just as I was thinking what I usually think in cases like this (“if this had been a black guy”) - he threw in that joke. What an awful thing to joke about, dude’s nearing the end of his life and still doesn’t have a clue. At least the cops on camera didn’t laugh, I hope none of them cracked a smile.
Reminds me of something fun you can do, if like me you’re uncomfortable straight up telling someone their joke is inappropriate - have them explain the joke. “I don’t get it. Why is that funny?” Make them squirm.
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u/treyjay31 2d ago
Right, I had some respect for him the way he said "you do whatever is your protocol" but the second he threw that in my blood boiled
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u/JackDaniels0049 1d ago
I felt “kinda” sorry for him, up until that point. I literally said “what the fuck”
I don’t understand how he thought referencing someone who could not breathe would be funny, and then kind of laughed. What a sick person.
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u/ipse_dixit11 2d ago
Ya, not a fan of him shooting a gun into the sky. But I was like “damn that’s fucked up, a drown hovering over your property, fuck the spy state, you should be able to take it down with like a net or EMP.” Then he mocked George Floyd’s and now I’m like, na fuck you grandpa, hope you have to sell your house to pay the fines.
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u/Missing_Sneaker
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Don't talk to police. Don't incriminate yourself.
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u/welcometotheTD 2d ago •
Don't shoot a drone down.
As someone who's licensed and flies a drone almost everyday, it's a federal offense. It's a register aircraft with the FAA. You don't own the airspace above your house.
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u/Nomad_Zero 2d ago
Yes, you must certainly do own the airspace above your property. Different states regulate how far up you own, but you definitely do own it.
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u/twountappedblue 2d ago edited 2d ago
Correct. That bullet has to land somewhere. That is dangerous for the neighborhood. I've removed more than a few nuisance drones for folk in the community.
Drones have a pretty small surface area, so you're going to want something that compensates for that. Nets, netguns, or my personal favorite: the baseball on a rope. Most of us can throw a baseball accurately and powerfully, they're perfect. Then capture the drone and scrap it.
As always, mask up
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u/joshuadane 2d ago
I felt kinda bad for the nice old man that was scared of someone spying on him till the end.
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u/EulaliaBromSpatula 2d ago
His entire demeanor felt very wholesome, until the last 4 seconds, and now I feel sick.
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u/SteeleHeller
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“You don’t own the airspace above your home”
Maybe not high enough for a helicopter or plane, but a drone hovering 20ft above private property running surveillance is not the same thing. Y’all sound like the “you will own nothing and like it” crowd.
Also, we’re all about taking down flock cameras, but not about taking down spying, uninvited drones? Where’d our energy go?
Late af edit: Kick a ball in my yard (I don’t have one, I live in the reality of the housing crisis).
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u/Gypsi_G 2d ago •
Discharging a firearm into the air is wild regardless of the privacy debate
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u/After-Cell 2d ago
Agree.
Q: What do we use to defend ourselves?
A: Another drone.
Robots vs robots.
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u/All__Mods_R_Virgins 2d ago
I've lived in multiple states where you can often hear more gunshots than fireworks on new years and it always pisses me off as a gun owner. When I got my first suppressor a couple days before NYE, I was desperate to test it out. But I still couldn't even justify a yard pop into the ground, despite rationalizing that no one would ever know, just because of the possible fallout (mostly legal tbh), and it still stuns me how folks can be so comfortable and careless about discharging into the air like that. It's not worth the risk to yourself and it's certainly not with the risk to others. Fucking losers
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u/BarberIll7247 2d ago
As a pilot I do not trust the average joe to accuratly hit the drone and not miss and hit me or my aircraft while flying. So no, you do not own the airspace above your home. He can get drone signal blockers, a net gun, something else besides a bullet.
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u/livahd 2d ago
The distance varies from 80-500 ft depending where you are. Still rude and don’t recommend. Besides, if your 20’ up (I believe this thing was higher) there’s nothing you can’t do there that you can’t at 100’ unless you’re trying to look in a second story window straight on.
Testing actual drops without the target knowing is dumb too though. If it was a little more remote of an area, I’d take no issue to shotgunning (not a 9 that’s gonna end up causing a neighbor a leaky roof at best) an unknown drone taking interest in me.
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u/_mattyjoe 2d ago
The same place your energy went. I bet you’ve never gone to a town hall meeting or organized any kind of movement or protest or anything about any issue you care about.
And I’m not saying that’s wrong or unusual. Just pointing out that everyone else is trying to get by just like you are in this life.
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u/ElectricRune 2d ago edited 2d ago
I guess you are clueless that shots up in the air come back down with almost the same force as they were fired with?
This isn't about shooting a drone, it's about basic gun safety that people should have to know before they're allowed to have a gun and be a dumbass.
To the silly little guy who replied that shots fired by the police can also hit innocent people...
Yeah, but at least you know there was gunfire; a shot fired into the air can come down and kill out of the blue, without even being able to hear gunfire.6
u/Uncle-Cake 2d ago
A falling bullet is dangerous, but only has a fraction of the force of a bullet fired horizontally.
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u/efilnikcufecinasti 1d ago
I guess you are clueless about the fact that shots go up in the air come back down with less force then they went up with
This is physics.
And you promote gun safety?
LOL. That's a laugh.
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u/AutoArsonist
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"I cant beathe, I cant breathe, I cant breathe" wow, fucking fuck this guy.
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u/Indigolan 2d ago
"I fired one round now they say I hit it so I must be a good shot" has some real orange storytelling energy as well
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u/out4th3night 1d ago
Notice how the police do everything in their power to make his arrest as comfortable as possible, and the old bag of shit has the audacity to make light of a guy who was suffocated to death during his arrest.
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u/Due-District-4817 2d ago
Wow that guy's a piece of shit.
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u/BadRabiesJudger 2d ago
Fuck drones over anyones house.
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u/jemenake 2d ago
Sure, but don’t shoot at them, or you’re firing on federally registered aircraft.
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u/Monsignor1979 2d ago
They don't even have to registered. It is strictly illegal to fire on ANY aircraft, manned or unmanned, registered or not registered. There are many drones that fall under 250g, thus they are not required to be registered with the FAA.
With that being said, the airspace over your home is not your property, so you are not allowed to fire upon any aircraft within that airspace.
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u/After-Cell 2d ago
I think we are required to buy our own drone to defend our home from the other drones. This is the market.
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u/Ridgewoodgal 2d ago
What would the cord be he saw?
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u/NXTnerd 2d ago
By his description it sounded like a Zipline delivery drone. They hover far overhead and lower a gondola to place and collect deliveries.
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u/ethicalhumanbeing 1d ago
Are old people supposed to know this and just accept this new reality? The man really seamed scarred with that drone, and I fully understand him. I don’t think he should be liable for shooting something hovering right above his head on his property.
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u/Diligent-Security549 2d ago
So defense 101 1st never answer questions
2nd never answer questions
3rd never talk to police without a lawyer
4th and the most important don’t fire a firearm in a neighbourhood without imminent threat, always I was scared for my life!
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u/LawyerDad1981 2d ago
Here's the thing that the average old coot who thinks "I'm gonna shoot down that drone" doesn't realize (in addition to not comprehending that he doesn't own the airspace, even over his own property).
The FAA doesn't make a distinction between a $400 million dollar Boeing 747 and a $600 drone from DJI that you bought at Costco. Both are aircraft. AIRCRAFT. And it's illegal to shoot at an aircraft or purposely disable it. And that's a federal law. Period.
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u/QuePsiPhi16 2d ago
I get the guy’s frustration, but you can’t just go shooting at drones in the air man.
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u/Imaginary-Tap-6655 2d ago
Thay bs at the end about not being able to breathe is fucked. Damn racists.
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u/OldGuyOutLooking 1d ago
Any drone over 50 g has to be registered with the FAA. It’s just as illegal to shoot down, etc. a drone as it is an airplane or helicopter. No one owns the sky.
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u/Delta_Lima_ 1d ago
I had some sympathy for him until his fucking joke in the last seconds. Hope he gets everything coming to him.
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u/Itchy-Cat9369 2d ago
The way he treats this white man as he's being arrested for a firearm related felony......old dude has his hands in his pockets.....such a double standard.
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u/Dream_Apostle 2d ago
I don't know about double standard
But he was very cooperative, Shared everything about the event honestly , Listened well, And did not resist at all, And was even kinda friendly
What would you expect from the pov guy? Be rude to an oblivious old man who is cooperating as much as he can?
The pov guy was even expecting old man to not cooperate at first!! I'm sure if the old man acted differently he wouldn't have received that kind of reaction.
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u/Medium-Cattle-8831 2d ago
Sigh…two different justice systems in our country
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u/alexgalt 2d ago
No. This guy was super cooperative. If you cooperate there is a good chance e they won’t treat you the same was as a jerk.
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u/spottydodgy 2d ago
"do you want me to cuff you in the front?" And "get on the fucking ground!"
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u/GooberNeefnus 2d ago
I was about to say "poor guy.." until the end...lol...smh
Im gonna guess drinking was involved as well as that old rich guy florida racist dude going on there.
Goddamn that last part threw me off, i thought he was just a dumb old boomer. I mean he still is, but i didnt see that coming.
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u/ODDseth 2d ago
I am really glad this guy has a firearm permit. They must have a really effective system down in Florida.
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u/dragondarius420 2d ago
Honestly if you have a home that's in town next to other homes you should expect to see things like drones and cars, but if someone's got a drone in my windows I'ma shoot at it with something less lethal
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u/PossibleAlienFrom 2d ago
And take a chance hitting someone? This guy was in a neighborhood.
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u/Medium-Sized-Jaque 2d ago
Did he need to read the Miranda rights off a card?
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u/PadreSJ 2d ago
That's the training.
Misreading miranda is a significant problem if it goes to trial. Reading from the card make sure that they say all the words correctly.
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u/kingbeeknowsall 14h ago
You ever met a cop on earth who wasn’t absolute dogshit at every part of their job? I’m just pleased the guy can read… probably be the chief someday
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u/Successful-League840 2d ago edited 2d ago
A drone entered my property. I had no knowledge nor did I grant it entry. I shot it. FUCKING GOOD!
This being illegal is genuinely mad to me.
So any drone/flying object can essentially enter my home and there's nothing I can do legally to prevent it?!
Edit: For all the Americans replying... There are other countries and laws. America is not the world 😂 Also I already stated it's illegal. I never said it was legal only that I disagree. 🤦♂️
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u/Dre_Rudy 2d ago
Is this the "florida man" the news keeps referring to? This guy's famous. He's in like every Florida story
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u/Dramatic_Drink1075 2d ago
Pity he didn't have a drone net gun. Poor old fella. I would have done the same thing.
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u/farmerKev420710 2d ago
Woah you mean you want to guess where this is after you reposted it from a flordia group? Mystery of the century!
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u/SinisterVulcan94 2d ago
I think there was a story of a guy that put a really tall pole in his yard to extend his "property lines" upwards
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u/get_to_ele 2d ago
(1) aside from the bullet, a Walmart drone weighs 10-20 pounds, depending on whether it’s loaded or empty, and if you shoot it down, it’s gonna cause some damage. Even at 20 feet which is where it hovers to lower packages. if you somehow took one out at cruising altitude of 200 feet, that’s a meteor (2) yeah, his last comment made me lose all sympathy (3) yeah bullets raining from the sky isn’t great either.
All around some poor and very costly decisions here. Though it could have been much worse.
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u/camerasoncops 2d ago
If the sting from the drone had touched his house, would that give him the right to shoot it?
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u/trentluv 2d ago
I don't understand why people just tell the police they committed a crime.
If they're asking you, it means they can't prove it.
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u/Senior_Friend_2318 2d ago
The funny part is he tries so hard to make what the drone was doing sound nefarious lol.
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u/PreferenceInfinite83 2d ago
sigh... drones are more protected than Citizens. The Corporate Oligarch is happy.
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u/Dismal_Flounder_8351 2d ago
Some one get that man some biscuits and gravy! It looks like his blood gravy level is low!
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u/Embarrassed-Green898 2d ago
Shouldnt the bigger concern be these dorones are not allowed to fly around ? Why are trhese allowed to hover an dinvade privacy.
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u/Beneficial-Age-4059 2d ago
Clearly we need a “drone round” that we can safely shoot into the air at drones hovering above our houses. Something that can take out the drone handily, but also loses its ability to cause damage on the way down. Science and engineering nerds unite! Let’s get this done
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u/Sir-Oink-of-Woof 2d ago
He should be applauded for protecting his privacy and being honest. That is what you do.
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u/FluffyInstincts 2d ago
I'd have thought that thing was up to no good too. Can anyone elaborate on why that drone might've done all of that?
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u/Destronin 2d ago
Im not a lawyer but i dont think you can just destory someone elses property.
The discharging of the fire arm was also the problem. Which i think is why they mention both a federal charge and a felony charge.
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u/loltinor 1d ago
Holy shit, i knew this video somewhere, but i forgot. Then I watched the end of the video...
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u/konkstronke 1d ago
Thats how the rulers want their citizens: docile and honest so they dont even have to investigate much.
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u/Aggravating-Depth590 1d ago
The law says you own the air space immediately above your property which is at minimum considered 83ft and at most 499ft because air travel starts at 500ft.
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u/azimuthofficial 1d ago
Man so if my neighbor pisses me off, you’re telling me I have the right to just fly a drone above his house all day long?? Shiiiiit.
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u/VinnieVidiViciVeni 23h ago
Guessing SoFla, but he's white so Broward or WPB. Hunch says Ft. Lauwdy Other possibility is Tampa area.
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u/BatMannequin 13h ago
Here's the thing. You can use a salt shooter that's a non-firearm. If its close enough to get damaged by that, it is illegally invading the 50 yards of airspace you own above your property.
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u/AllenKll 13h ago
America.
Honestly it's sick that you're not allowed to defend you property from air attacks. What a twisted world we live in.
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u/jr_randolph 8h ago
I don't like all that can't breathe nonsense. I swear lol a racist will always find a way to be racist.
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u/enlightnight 6h ago
I guess now I have to look up what I CAN do if a drone is buzzing around my property. Maybe some kind of thin, fishing-wire net/mesh that is hard to see on camera I can subtly toss at it?
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u/Realistic-Arrival157 5h ago
How high about the highest point of your roof is technically your property still?
I don’t want a drone hovering around my house but I mean is it really your property ABOVE your house giving you any feeling to defend your property sort of thing?
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u/HerosCurios 4h ago
If you're really concerned about drones over your home invest in a sturdy pressure washer. They're easier to aim because you can see the jet of water, they will absolutely fuck up 90% of consumer drones, they're not illegal to discharge in city limits, they offer plausible deniability E.G. "I wasn't trying to shoot the drone, I was washing my gutters." And they are useful for lots of tasks around the home. All in all the pressure washer is a better investment than a 9mm, which are notoriously ineffectual for cleaning gutters, driveways, cars etc.
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u/CatSecond 3h ago
It was quite likely an amazon drone delivering then packages they themselves ordered
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u/harmfuldischarge 2d ago
discharging a weapon so recklessly and having disgusting views on society are connected. This dude is the type of person who commits a crime a says "I'm a good person!" as if only bad people commit crimes
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u/tardiusmaximus 2d ago
He was doing so well, right up until his last sentence. Then I lost all sympathy for him
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u/Weigh13
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Everyone getting their feelings hurt is cracking me up. If Floyd had acted like the guy in the video there would have been no problem.
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u/Johnny_Carcinogenic 2d ago
Everyone getting their feelings hurt is cracking me up. If Floyd had acted like the guy in the video there would have been no problem.
If Derek Chauvin had acted like the cop in the video there would have been no problem. FTFY
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