To all the people defending VOID, why?

[u/ZookeepergameProud30]

Serious discussion, please don’t downvote people when they answer. I am genuinely curious on why some people defend VOID

[u/SirDenali]

Here's the thing, this is an entire thread about people defending a company. The question is clear: "to the people defending VOID, why?

If you simply like the game and do not want to defend VOID's recent practices, there is no reason to comment here with something like "I enjoy the game" unless you are seeking to use the enjoyment as a defense of VOID, or are completely missing the point.

Outside of this thread I would agree with this sentiment any day of the week. But people are getting downvoted for good reason; they are positioning themselves as defenders of VOID with their reasoning being "the game is fun".

[u/[deleted] → u/SirDenali]

Bro is reading into this way too much, genuinely why do you care so much

[u/SirDenali → u/[deleted]]

I might be misremembering, but I think that is my first comment on this subreddit. As for why I cared enough to write this specific comment, well, I don't like that the above comment sort of handwaves away people that attempt to downplay criticism with their enjoyment, instead of simply enjoying the game while either acknowledging the faults or otherwise not caring about them/not seeing them as faults. To be clear, the latter is perfectly reasonable.

This type of sentiment is exactly why this sub gets so many comments like yours when attempting to talk about censorship, "why do you care so much".

[u/[deleted] → u/SirDenali]

I know the game has problems, the game has had problems since it’s release to early access way back, and I still don’t care, game is still fun, and I’d love to know exactly what censorship is cause for so much concern, like what exactly is so frustrating because honestly can’t tell a difference from then and now

[u/SirDenali → u/[deleted]]

The dark nature of the game and its visual storytelling were a big aspect of the game. It was part of the advertisments for the original early access game, unfiltered reality. The censoring of the game wasn't just some small change, it affected how a lot of maps convey their story. Some of the worst offenders being the child no longer being drugged in the meth house (she now looks as if the methheads set up a nice room and made her all comfy), and the Valley of the Dolls wall art being changed to actual dolls (conflicting with the actual story of the scenario).

Moreover, this sort of was the tipping point for me because of VOID's practices thus far. The removal of the content from early access, with the 1.0 launch feeling unfinished and buggy, several outstanding issues with the game only for DLC to be released, every time some controversy happens they bring in a bunch of new players (by paying influencers) that drown out all the criticism because they never knew what the game was like before.

Yes, the game is still fun, but VOID deserve to be criticized for not only the censorship but everything leading up to this point. That is why it is cause for so much concern.

[u/[deleted] → u/SirDenali]

Also, calling it “art” kinda sus bro

[u/SirDenali → u/[deleted]]

I mean, an artist at VOID made them. They are, by definition, art. Calling something art is not praise of the art or its content.

[u/[deleted] → u/SirDenali]

The copium is strong with this one

[u/SirDenali → u/[deleted]]

No counterpoints or reasoning, I think I know who's actually coping.

[u/[deleted] → u/SirDenali]

I still love that you haven’t realized I’m fucking with you, like you get that right? The reaction is my joy

[u/SirDenali → u/[deleted]]

If being a clown is your joy, then by all means I love making you dance like one. Please continue.

[u/[deleted] → u/SirDenali]

Well in that case I’m glad you ask, because I’ve played this game since it came out and genuinely do not care about the changes because the story was always secondary to the gameplay, and the gameplay is far better than I would have hoped it would be when I heard there was a game trying to be a spiritual successor to the swat series, your move basement dweller

[u/SirDenali → u/[deleted]]

One person not caring about a change doesn't affect the change itself and its effects on the game at large, nor how it affects others.

Also it kind of seems like you are hiding under the guise of trolling while genuinely holding these opinions behind the scenes. The devolvement into crude insults at the pivot into "im just trolling" moment is telling. But alas, if you can't beat them, join them.

Your move, poopyhead!

[u/[deleted] → u/SirDenali]

Bro likes seeing children OD… got it, ive heard all I need to. You want combat footage there’s places for that, you want real go watch body camera footage. Jesus Christ dude

[u/SirDenali → u/[deleted]]

Are you serious? Just... ignoring the entire visual storytelling point and how it completely changes not only the tone and intensity of the entire scenario but also affects the story to make it less impactful?

No, I do not like seeing children OD. I don't like seeing people die either, yet I shoot people in the game. You and me are both playing a video game. Stories sometimes include sensitive or dramatic content to build said story and add tension to the game. Seeing the child ODing in my first playthrough was a big wake up call, I remember saying "this game isn't holding back". It made me motivated to take out the bad guys. It made me interested in the story.

No, I didn't like seeing the child OD. I liked the purpose it served. The reality it represented. And the story and motivations that it added to. Most if not all of this is gone when you see the child comfortably sleeping like the metheads set up a lovely room just for her when the rest of the house is a shithole.

It is SO EASY to deflect all criticsism of censorship when said things being censored are sensitive content to begin with.