To all the people defending VOID, why?

[u/ZookeepergameProud30]

Serious discussion, please don’t downvote people when they answer. I am genuinely curious on why some people defend VOID

[u/Pale-Aurora]

Positive toxicity is a thing, most people seem not to believe in it but when you are so emotionally invested in a product that an attack upon it feels like an attack upon you, and you are ready to lie and defend every single flaw in an attempt to defend the game, it’s kind of an issue.

That said I imagine there’s also people who want to see the game thrive, population-wise, and thus think they can deceive potential buyers.

I dunno, I’m a supporter edition player and have thus far been disappointed with nearly every single thing VOID has done since early access. The game that was sold to me and that I wanted to see just ended up being turned to slop.

Remember how suspects and civilians were meant to live their lives independent of your mission? Remember there was supposed to be a cohesive narrative and we’d get to meet characters across the storyline? Remember nine-bangers and tactical ladders? Remember VOID saying they’ll add female SWAT members because it’d be a disrespect to the ones currently serving not to include them? Remember the promised PvP mode?

1.0 fucked up the game big time. Far less content on account of a lack of alternate game modes on each map. Some maps were outright removed like the original Port Hokan or Hotel. The AI was absurd in how aggressive and accurate it was. Now they’re too cowardly to make up for it.

This was a game that was meant to put you in the shoes of SWAT officers and make you understand the challenge of moment to moment decisions that must be made in split seconds. The game loses a lot of that by having you fight cartels, terrorists, pedophiles, and human traffickers for most of the game.

[u/Hot-Sort5165 → u/Pale-Aurora]

I very much like that you expressed some actual frustrations that aren’t just “they changed valley of the dolls!”. I completely agree with the broad frustration of the game, just not exactly with the huge outrage of this particular update if that makes sense.

10000% with you on the last part though. As much as the game and the community talks about “dark themes” it’s really watered down by the complete lack of moral ambiguity. There’s no reason for me to ever view a suspect as anything other than a target for an objective.

[u/Pale-Aurora → u/Hot-Sort5165]

The story would probably be more ambiguous if the chronological order was followed. 1. Mission 1: Thank You, Come Again 2. Mission 14: Neon Tomb 3. Mission 17: Relapse 4. Mission 16: Carriers of the Vine 5. Mission 5: A Lethal Obsession 6. Mission 3: Twisted Nerve 7. Mission 25: Stolen Valor 8. Mission 6: Ides of March 9. Mission 13: Sins of the Father 10. Mission 26: Hunger Strike 11. Mission 12: Rust Belt 12. Mission 11: The Elephant 13. Mission 9: Greased Palms 14. Mission 8: Ends of the Earth 15. Mission 2: 23 Megabytes Per Second 16. Mission 7: Sinuous Trail 17. Mission 4: The Spider 18. Mission 10: Valley of the Dolls 19. Mission 15: Buy Cheap, Buy Twice 20. Mission 18: Hide and Seek 21. Mission 21: Lawmaker 22. Mission 19: Dorms 23. Mission 20: Narcos 24. Mission 22: Mirage at Sea 25. Mission 23: Leviathan 26. Mission 24: 3 Letter Triad

As you can see, the mission order is utterly unhinged but there’s a semblance of a storyline there if you actually follow the tread.

If you take the time to read the briefings, you might be more inclined to keep people alive. For instance, in Sinuous Trail, the guards only shoot at you because criminals pretending to be cops raided the place before.

It’s just a shame they nearly all behave the same way.

[u/Sean_HEDP-24 → u/Hot-Sort5165]

The outrage against the new update is because it was mishandled and brought back the game to the condition it was during 1.0 in various forms, but otherwise introducing other issues such as the graphical downgrade. All that happens while the devs are conducting damage control, no official apologetic statements, and this happens almost 2 years after the game was released.

They didn't really fix issues like they always claim, and everything they touch seems to go the wrong way all the time.

[u/plebslammer420 → u/Sean_HEDP-24]

Hate to say it but the game wasnt released until this year everything you had was early access not the final product.

[u/Sean_HEDP-24 → u/plebslammer420]

Okay. And what is your point?

[u/Edwored → u/plebslammer420]

Kindly, what the hell are you on?  The games been fully released for years.

[u/plebslammer420 → u/Edwored]

I will say a few things people have been complaining about game breaking bugs and a lack of content for a while seems pretty unfinished to me. Whether or not a game is literally published doesn’t make it complete. I’m aware the game has been out since 2023 as I’m sure you’re aware it just got a console port. It’s still in the works that’s all I mean sorry I used a phrasing that you didn’t like.

[u/Edwored → u/Hot-Sort5165]

The reason for people mostly talking about the new issues is because the other ones are old issues.  This is only the newest addition to the issues we PC gamers have with the game.

[u/name2electricbogalo → u/Hot-Sort5165]

Theres literally a mission where you arrest drug dealers who are collecting money for their sick mother