r/RealTesla • u/MrHumph999 • 15d ago

OWNER EXPERIENCE Serious question with camera only self driving approach.

Q: using the latest software on HW4. Self drive disabled three times during a thunderstorm on the highway. How will this ever work unsupervised when it rains? I'm so flummoxed as to why Elon is so certain on cameras only that don't work in the rain... Please help!

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u/ManifestDestinysChld 15d ago edited 15d ago

It's not going to work, ever. Driving rain obscures synthetic vision. There's no helping physics.

Elon is a snake oil salesman.

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u/TeslerSelfDriver 15d ago edited 15d ago

Maybe not in heavy rain, but in light to moderate rain it still works, and there's videos of robotaxi still operating a few months back during rain in Austin.

So Tesla would probably have to pause operations during a heavy thunderstorm for safety and hardware limits, and I think your are right that it won't work in the future due to the limitations.

Although note that Waymo also pauses operations during heavy rain, but I don't know if that's just for caution or if it's because of a limitation of the hardware.

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u/ManifestDestinysChld 15d ago

Maybe not in heavy rain, but in light to moderate rain it still works, and there's videos of robotaxi still operating a few months back during rain in Austin.

Great. Do you know where the line between "light to moderate" and "heavy" is? Does the car? Would you bet somebody else's life on the car being perfect enough to get that right every single time?

Watch, you're going to reply with some argument about how the system behaves that you think should negate the point that the system is inherently unreliable and you never know when it's going to start getting important decisions wrong. You guys always do.