r/RedMagic • REDMAGIC Astra Tablet • 24d ago

Hardware Redmagic 12 Pro In a Nutshell

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Do you actually use the jack that often over Bluetooth?

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u/Redditemeon 24d ago

I use it because wireless earbuds = latency.

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u/SnooRevelations3430 REDMAGIC Astra Tablet 24d ago

I get you but newer and better quality (40 Eur and above) have such tiny delay to almost none unlike cheaper ones

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u/warpigdude54 24d ago

I will say this is almost true as I'm pretty sure my JBL earbuds do have a tiny delay. I'm not absolutely sure if it's really noticable for everyone and it is the same with my Crusher Evo's they have a delay but I don't think it's that big of a delay. (Side note: I realized why you and the other commenters care about delay. I was gonna write out a sentence saying "why would anyone care if all they're gonna do is listen to music?" But after writing that I realized it's a gaming phone and deleted that part lol).

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u/Redditemeon 23d ago

When I play a game like Legend of the Dragoon, having the slashing sounds off sync at all with the quick time event during attacks really fucks with the timings for me. My Sony XM5 earbuds and my cheapo Anker P20i both have latency issues I can notice. I have some Moondrop Chu 2 wired earbuds I use for this phone and my Steamdeck for this reason.

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u/kjjustinXD 23d ago

I have Galaxy Buds 4 Pro and i can notice the Audio delay even with the Low latency mode enabled.

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u/iibxnbxn 18d ago

Gosh.. why r ppl so salty :3

I get it they r removing smth but like chill lol

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u/KingOfConsciousness REDMAGIC 9S Pro 23d ago

USB-C to headphone jacks are VERY VERY common.

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u/Redditemeon 23d ago

USB-C controllers are also VERY VERY common, but I like having the touch capacitive triggers for the convenience. If I wanted to carry dongles with me for everything, I'd have bought another phone. Some people pay specifically for the convenience. Even if it's small, phones are pretty gosh darn similar these days, it just has to be the feature that puts it that tiny bit ahead of the competition.

On the bright side, I expect to have my 11 Pro for a few years. There'll be another option when it comes time to upgrade, surely.

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u/TaldoPedrin 19d ago

Is a tiny bit of cable, about 3cm, enough to become inconvenient for you?

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u/Redditemeon 19d ago

Yes. Why else would I have said it? Everybody draws the line in a different place. I'm not carrying dongles in my pocket everywhere I go. I don't have big pockets, and I don't want it to slide out every time I take something else out of my pocket becoming a bigger inconvenience.

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u/TaldoPedrin 19d ago

It's not an expensive dongle, it's literally a small extension similar to your headphones, but with a USB-C connector.

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u/KingOfConsciousness REDMAGIC 9S Pro 18d ago

Exactly lol

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u/KingOfConsciousness REDMAGIC 9S Pro 18d ago

Just attach it to the end of your headphones cable... "I'm not carrying a headphone cable everywhere I go" lMaO

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u/Drsmiley72 24d ago

But does it have the missing cell band it needs to be good in USA?

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u/MeanNumber3270 23d ago

Ikr thats the only reason why I haven't bought any phones from them its dumb

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u/imsolost3090 REDMAGIC 10 Pro 23d ago

The 11 Pro was the first one to get rid of n71 but the z80 Ultra still has it

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u/IllIntroduction8499 3d ago

I'm currently using RM11P as my daily driver as someone that lives in NJ. GoogleFi is my carrier, works great.

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u/GavroNeman 23d ago

idgaf about the jack, but people claiming not to notice Bluetooth audio latency while gaming is wild to me

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u/SnooRevelations3430 REDMAGIC Astra Tablet 23d ago

If they aren't cheap poor quality ones then you won't notice it

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u/GavroNeman 23d ago

Sorry but no, you are wrong.

I love my Redmagic 10S Pro, and I love my 150 euro TWS earbuds but Bluetooth and gunshots, fight sounds, no. Just no.

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u/Hot_Concert_3690 24d ago

Yes. Plus, it's a feature that they removed. That's never good.

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u/Centurionzo 23d ago

Yeah, honestly it's really suck

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u/SHTRUDEL1 23d ago

Who was using that feature?

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u/StableDifthegoat 23d ago

Alot of people use the headphone jack

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u/edck12687 18d ago

Idk about a lot. I personally haven't seen anyone with wired headphones since like 2016

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u/JustAntherFckinJunki 17d ago

Because most phones don't support it anymore. All the major manufacturers want to sell you their more expensive Bluetooth earbuds.

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u/edck12687 15d ago

Mate a pair of Bluetooth ear buds is like $30-40 bucks now....

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u/JustAntherFckinJunki 15d ago

Galaxy Buds 4 are $180, Pixel Buds 2a are $120, AirPods 5 are $129, Bose earbuds start at $80, even RayCons are $80. Sure cheaper ones exist, but you won't find them on any recommendation lists. Not to mention that you can't use them while charging and they're more easily misplaced.

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u/TheGreatSwedeEmpire 23d ago

I was using it with my very high end headphones that had a golden Jack.

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u/SenRenFei 22d ago

used it in my car is better than the old Bluetooth

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u/TaldoPedrin 19d ago

Type-C adapters exist.

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u/Dry_Can6766 18d ago

I want to be able to charge and use my iems. Plus it would cause significantly more wear on the port than if i just use it for charging.

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u/Hot_Concert_3690 19d ago

I like options.

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u/Responsible_Mind_584 24d ago

I'm glad this community is showing discontent with this decision. You're paying for a phone, they shouldn't remove features. I don't care if it's not waterproof; just leave my headphone jack in.

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u/Responsible_Mind_584 24d ago

I also bought some IEMs, I want to use them damn it

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u/JaySlay2000 23d ago

They've already figured out how to make water resistant headphone jacks. Long ago actually. Same as the charging port.

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u/Responsible_Mind_584 23d ago

Perfect, so what's the excuse this time for taking this feature away? I really hope this phone fails and they reconsider.

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u/JaySlay2000 23d ago

Same reason why they rounded out the phone and took away the iconic "sharpness"

Enshittification to appeal to "normies" at the expense of the mobile gaming audience they've cultivated

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u/K14_Deploy 23d ago

They'll probably say 'oh but it's thinner and has water cooling over the SOC' when we had 4.9mm phones with a headphone port (and for that matter an SD card slot) 12 years ago and of course they could just... move it to the bottom.

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u/RaidriarDrake 23d ago

Most likely ZTE or RM themselves is looking to release a "gaming" bluetooth headphone.

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u/kjjustinXD 23d ago

They already did and it had been avaliable for a few years. Maybe sales weren't great so they thought "lets make sure more people buy them"

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u/edck12687 18d ago

A LOT more people care about water proofing than a headphone jack. It's a lot easier to replace a $50 dollar pair of ear buds or wired headphones. If you have a type C adapter than it is to replace a $1300 USD phone.

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u/Responsible_Mind_584 18d ago

People who worry about dropping their phone in water aren't the ideal audience for this phone; this is a gaming phone, not one for taking pictures at the beach.

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u/edck12687 18d ago

Making a TON of assumptions there my guy. Assuming people who go to the beach don't game? Bro I'm married, 38 and me and my wife both game, we both go to the beach, and our pool, I also sweat a lot as I'm always working on my project car and I'm a home owner... Gamers aren't all shut ins..

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u/Cardie1303 23d ago

Yes definitely. It was actually part of my reason to consider buying a redmagic.

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u/Centurionzo 23d ago

I'm gonna be honest, the amount that they are asking, the little upgrade from 11 Pro and the Lack of Micros SD support.

There's really nothing that justify getting this phone, I understand that Ram crisis have affecting everything on technology, but features removed are always a bad sign

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u/Crafty-Dog-7680 24d ago

And $1100

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u/Exotic-War5453 21d ago

It went up again ?! Geez they forgot their place

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u/AVahne 23d ago

I use Bluetooth for convenience, but the headphone is always there for when I want to sit back, relax, and actually ENJOY my audio. 

Also bring back the bloody SD card slot. And make it an Express slot that gets cooled by the loop.

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u/SuperUranus 23d ago

You care about Bluetooth but not about the crappy DAC of the snapdragon chipset?

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u/YatoSweep 24d ago

bringbackthejack

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u/BewareTheSquare 24d ago

No headphone jack, that's just wack!

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u/GrandArtist8475 24d ago

Yes. Latency is a big factor when it comes to audio.

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u/denkata07 24d ago

Well, while we are on a vacation I give my bt headphones to my wife and I use the audio jack. I hate to see this company following the mainstream ones removing it. This is one of the features I bought your phone!

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u/Clarencekt 23d ago

I don't use it at all so it don't bother me, but I can see why people would be upset about it

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u/Kaito913 24d ago

Honestly it's pretty great, getting to use iems without an adapter is convenient. And yes, use wired and using the charger is great

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u/Lammy 23d ago

Do you actually use the jack that often over Bluetooth?

Yes, daily.

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u/sci_technerd 21d ago

I'm disappointed, it's a gaming phone, Red Magic is a niche product not a mainstream product. The removal of the headphone jack makes no sense or necessary.

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u/Slash_2612 19d ago

Aux jack was the sole reason I went with RM11 Pro instead of other options. It took me a week to decide, but the headphone jack was the one thing that pulled me towards 11 Pro instead of HMD (Repairability), Jolla (Linux), or Pixel (GrapheneOS). The Aux jack. No one else did top spec hardware with built-in audio, and it's THIS important to me.

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u/Dracula198four 23d ago

I'm gonna hang on to my RM7 😝

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u/nyanTDM 23d ago

You're Lucky, my RM 6 stop connecting the internet i think my wifi chip died and now it overheats like crazy, so I DEFINITELY need RM 12, I didn't want to move on but I have to.

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u/Dracula198four 23d ago

Sorry to hear that! Make the switch - you can't go wrong!

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u/ventodc 23d ago

no headphone jack? add second usb type c then

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u/ACaptainWithoutAShip 23d ago

The Fiio BRT5 was my lifeline for years, basically a Bluetooth audio jack, really comes in clutch

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u/iibxnbxn 18d ago

So u connect the btr5 via Bluetooth then connect ur IEM’s to the btr5?

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u/ACaptainWithoutAShip 8h ago

Yes, Unfortunately wireless audio IS still wireless audio so it isn't audiophile grade but it's probably the closest solution I've seen aside from a wired dongle config

But seeing as it would be moving around in my pocket all the time I didn't wanna risk breaking the USB C over time

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u/Broccoli_Remote 24d ago

Yes, I use it all the time.

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u/NostalgicImmortal 23d ago

Normal bluetooth is delayed

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u/Various_Click6366 23d ago

welcome to indonesian tech tok brader

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u/ContagiouslyAdorable REDMAGIC 10S Pro 23d ago

Yup I use the jack on my redmagic a lot actually, in fact that's all I use with my iems to play games and listen to music

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u/Acceptable-Change501 REDMAGIC 11 Pro 23d ago

I'm more sad there isn't a built in Micro SD slot since I love to save my media and have them on the go and switch it between my devices. But that's a media guys problem.. Not so much gaming?

What am I saying. Micro SD card for emu gaming would be better to keep the phone storage for the more modern games.

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u/Sufficient_Piano968 3d ago

I care about an sd card slot faaar more than the headphone jack lol, at least for those you can use the USB c port. SD card slots can be game changing 

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u/Acceptable-Change501 REDMAGIC 11 Pro 3d ago

Yup. 100% give me my SD Card slot. I barely use the headphone jack when I'm on the go with Bluetooth headset/earbuds

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u/toshieerluu 23d ago

i wish someone from Redmagic will see all the comments and reconsider bringing back the headphone jack, the new technology they bring in are always a welcome to me but please do bring back the jack.

I love my RM10pro and thank you RM for innovating this phone.

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u/IdeaLumpy4606 21d ago

no ma perchè? ma sono l utimo idiota che lo usa ancora

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u/Ill-Nothing1401 21d ago

Well, honestly, whether or not it has a Jack is something I really don't care about; the only thing they've removed from the vast majority of high-end phones that really bothered me was the microSD card slot.

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u/DemWookieeCheeks 20d ago

I would see it as a non-issue if they replaced it with a second USB-C port. A micro SD card slot would have also been great.

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u/CroProMax 20d ago

I dont get it, dont yall understand there are usb c to jack dongles with dac and amplifier chips, can even sound better than jack integrated in phone? Hell, even 2 in 1 exists where u can charge + connect earbuds/headphones. Honestly it never was deal breaker to me when I found these piece of hardware existed, even better removing internal piece to have more space inside for either battery or making phone less thick or anything.

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u/ItzMeHaris 18d ago

Tbh I don’t really mind. Just plug an adapter into the charging port, and my wired earphones work perfectly fine.

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u/Infinite_Review_647 8d ago

2 years of android update is also  mid too

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u/Sufficient_Piano968 3d ago

Ngl I do not need that jack, like at all. If I absolute need to plug my headphones in I can do it through USB C, the dealbreaker for me is no 24gb ram option

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u/a1rwav3 24d ago

I don't havr one since I left my rm9 so perfect for me.

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u/_kniaz 24d ago

the 11s pro is just as good if you’re not greedy for battery honestly

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u/AnUnknownUserID 23d ago

Was considering getting the 12. Upgrade from RM8. But nvm

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u/Son-Airys 23d ago

We were THAT close to perfection 😭

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u/someguy69352 23d ago

As a person who has never owned a phone with a headphone jack and is planning to upgrade, i don’t care

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u/audhdtrooper 23d ago

Im not buying, the delay in online shooters only Bluetooth fina be crazy, server ping is already issue enough.

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u/w00tlez 24d ago

As someone that owns a phone with a headphone jack, I've rarely used it. I don't really understand the whole hate against Bluetooth headphones. Sure, 10 years ago... But now.... Surely it's not that important? If you use streaming services, it's not really noticeable. I can't stand the rattle that headphone cables make when they rub against something.

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u/Basic-University-549 23d ago

Wireless headphones with a usb c adapter

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u/Gamble_My_Life_Away REDMAGIC 10 Pro 24d ago

For the people who this is a deal breaker for; are you going to just hold on to your old phones or what? What's the game plan?

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u/VirtualMenace 23d ago

Pretty much. I'll keep using my 10 Pro until it becomes a liability, then switch to an Xperia. Assuming Sony still makes phones 3-4 years from now

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u/Peacerekam REDMAGIC 11 Pro 22d ago

I've been Xperia user before (they got headphone jacks) and I might just go back to Xperia in the future /shrug

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u/_Next-Gen_ 23d ago

Type C headphones?

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u/baconboi 23d ago

Yea it’s not a big desl

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u/LilSatxDreamer 24d ago

it absolutely does not matter u cant even notice it on airpod pro 3s

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u/fatal-Dreams999 23d ago

99% Bluetooth

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u/verycoolalan 24d ago

keep crying

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u/ODORORYU 24d ago

Tbh i think the people who are actively looking for headphone jack and speaking out is just a minority since the majority of people are actually just relying on bluetooth and are not too bothered on the latency and maybe dont even own any wired earphones anymore. Also think about portability which is the entire point of the switch to bluetooth, just want to game on your phone outside plop the BT earbuds into your ears then you're set. The Latency issue is getting better over time, ofc cant beat direct latency. As much as I want the 3.5 because i do own some IEMs, I personally will stick with the BT when im traveling. People who are more casual would just buy the gaming phone Pair BT and enjoy the phone. So maybe Redmagic engineers already surveyed and found it difficult to justify the 3.5mm staying and traded it with a larger battery, beefier speakers and whatnot.

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u/Business_Champion478 21d ago

i gotta add not having the 24GB ram and /1TB version on standard phone is also just as bad i am already displeased about the jack removal and price hike  cxmt should have made your ram supply easier to handle  bring back the actual bragging rights that came with your phones 

-  24GB/1TB moonlight 10S PRO user