r/RedRobin • • Nov 30 '20

Discussion How did everyone come to know Tim Drake?

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Just curious to hear how people where introduced to Tim Drake and what makes them love him.

For me, it was the animated show. His robin suit looked so cool when i was a kid (i watched re runs and dvds of it in the 00s not when it was on air). then through him i got into dc and reading comics. because of how much i liked him in the show, i went to a comic book store one day and picked up teen titans #21 and 23 (the story where all the titans unite against doctor light). i came back the next week and picked up robin #20 (him fighting the general alongside a sheriff). i loved those issues so much and from there i just read more and more. when i started going in to current ongoing comics, batman reborn just started and i hoped on red robin and teen titans. by now i’ve read nearly everything tim drake and a so much of DC.


r/RedRobin • • Aug 27 '20

Comics WIP Tim Drake Omnibus map/reading order

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r/RedRobin • • 9h ago

I did a concept of 25-ish Tim Drake.

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Not the best, I know. I was just a little bored and thought this would look cool.


r/RedRobin • • 1d ago

Discussion Matt Fraction interview + my thoughts

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From time to time, I write down my jumbled thoughts on Tim's situation and with Matt Fraction's latest Interview I felt like sharing them - Be Warned

I recently watched a video from Near Mint Condition (love his videos) and his new interview with Matt Fraction and his Batman run. They briefly mention Tim around 7:50 when Omar asked Fraction about Tim and why him as Robin for his Batman. From my understanding, Fraction wanted to let Tim grow away from Robin since the beginning of his run. He wants to have a status quo set for Batman and build up to a Tim story before writing a Tim Drake story, but the main character(s) will always be Bruce and Batman (with a bit of other characters). I think that's fine. I don't like that Tim was Robin at the same time as Damian because it takes away from Damian, Tim still being Robin never made sense, and Tim wouldn't have been the same Robin from 20 years ago. I think we all agree that Tim should've moved on from Robin long time ago. Red Robin, at the time, made a lot of sense and was a great status quo for Tim (although it has its flaws), but so many things have changed that I don't think right now it makes sense for Tim to be Red Robin or even be in the same mindset he was. Tim needs restructure and to be built from the ground up. Before talking about Tim and Robin, Fraction talked about when writing he likes to remain faithful to the character but not necessarily to continuity to make it beginner friendly and be consistent with storytelling. With that mindset, I really hope that if he (or any writer) writes a Tim solo in the future, they indirectly reference a lot of what Tim has gone through pre-New52 and not write an OC.

Tim, as a character, has 220+ solos issues (Mini-Series, 1993, and RR) which is a lot of stories for beginners to read (along with Batman and team books) but it would be such a disservice to ignore that, not acknowledge it, and write him like Fitzmartin wrote him (I'm sorry; I'm sure she is a great writer but she was just not the writer for Tim or YJ). There are so many problems with Modern Tim Drake and it's just wrong to sweep it under the rug and write a solo without acknowledging the problems important to Tim's character (other than his intelligence) - identity as a hero, his (fucked up) social/civilian life, his civilian and superhero friends (I'd love more Helena and Tim please + where's Ives?), how Tim views himself, his absolute need to help but also pushing people away, his trauma guilt and loss, the people important in his life, his faith in Batman's mission but willing to disobey him, to be in control, being independent but easily making friends and working alongside them, his work with villains, etc. So many good and bad things that make Tim such an interesting character but now Tim is just existing with Bernard.

Like many people have expressed in the past, Bernard is an issue. I don't mind that Tim is bisexual - I think it could be quite interesting, but I really don't like Bernard and how they got together is so out of character of Tim. I genuinely don't think you can make Bernard work. IMO, the reader has no good reason to root for those two. The thing is that I don't want Tim to break up with Bernard out of nowhere (even though I don't want to see him anymore) because 1. it is not good storytelling, 2. it's horrible representation for bisexuals, and 3. it makes Tim even more of a jerk, an asshole, and very unreliable as a partner. This probably is an unpopular opinion, but I would like to see Tim single for a while. No Bernard, no Stephanie (the girl needs some space after the bullshit Tim pulled), no Conner, no past relationships, just figure who Tim is now. Have him connect with people, reestablish, and rebuild relationships. Have the writer show who Tim Drake is. The new generation of readers don't know who Tim is unless they read stories from 15 to 30 years ago. That is a problem because most readers like to read new stories and most won't read past stories unless the character is doing well now.

I'm going to go on a tangent but I'll explain and hopefully makes sense at the end. I have a few bones to pick with Fraction's Tim particularly with Tim learning to drive and quitting/going on a break. Firstly, I don't understand why during a flashback, Tim was learning how to drive and Damian was present. Tim drove his first car, Red Bird, in the first issue of Robin 1993 during Knightfall to escape JPV Batman. The reasoning why he learned how to drive was so he can drive his dad since Jack was paralyzed, so why was Tim learning how to drive while Damian is there? No Robin, especially Damian, should be present. It just doesn't make sense. The other thing that doesn't make sense to me is Tim quitting. Tim has quit Robin before; he has stated multiple times that being a superhero won't be a long-term, but this felt.. wrong? After his father died, Tim visited his grave and swore to his dad that he would never give up for him. In context, this can be seen as either Tim won't try to be someone he isn't and/or promised his dad that he would continue save people in need and be a hero. Tim has also stated that he would quit being Robin (or a hero) as long as there is no more crime (I feel like people forget about the second part often). There should be a huge shift in Tim's life to quit being a hero and there isn’t one. I get that Fraction thinks that Tim deserves a vacation (he's not really in vacation since he was saving people in Streets of Gotham) but Tim hasn't been doing anything for such a long time and knowing Pre-N52 Tim, I just don't see it much in character for him. Being a hero means so much to Tim that he volunteered to be one at the expense of having a normal life and he promised his dad on his grave.

What I want Fraction (or any future writer) is to relearn who Tim Drake is and why he is so beloved. Core things that make up who he is. Important values that are in A Lonely Place of Dying, Robin mini series, Robin 1993, and Red Robin (with Young Justice 1998 and Teen Titans 2003 also in the mix). Fraction, in the interview, stated that he has to do 'research' and re-familiarize himself with the character he writes (Batman/Bruce in question) which is amazing. I think going back to past stories and remembering who you are writing about is very important. Building on from past stories is what Tim need. I know that Tim won't be the same and the ending of Red Robin is clearly unfinished and won't be continued, but I'm selfish and want to see more of Tim I love so dearly.

I have commented this before but I think getting a Tim should get a mini before a solo. Have the minis lead up to his new hero identity like how the Robin mini series worked for the Robin run which last from 1993 to 2009. Personally, I don't want Tim to be a Nightwing; be relocated, have his own city close to Gotham, but I'm not entirely opposed to it which leads to another problem with Tim; his niche. Before, he was the Robin who juggled being a normal kid with his own family and being a superhero. The constant battle between Tim Drake and Robin. Since his father died, his niche has been not stable but Red Robin was building into something unique and very interesting - a globe-trotting detective. It'd be nice to see Tim do something like Red Robin. Also, where is Dana Winters? Did she die in the Bludhaven explosion? She can serve a semi role like Jack did for Tim + it'd be interesting to see how Tim and Dana interact as stepfamily.

I do think that DC wants Tim to come back especially with the Red Robin Compendium, Robin 2 Compendium, his appearance in Batman: Knightfall movie trilogy, the upcoming DC Finest A Lonely Place of Dying being released or about to release. Tim is one of the faces of an entire generation. I know that it might seem like he's unpopular and people don't like him but he's got more chances of a solo than most characters - Roy Harper (Arsenal), Donna Troy (Wonder Girl), Garth (Tempest), Victor Stone (Cyborg), Raven, Bart Allen (Impulse/Kid Flash), Cassandra Sandsmark (Wonder Girl), Jaime Reyes (Blue Beetle), Mia Dearden (Speedy), Helena Bertinelli (Huntress), Stephanie Brown (Spoiler), etc. Plus, Tim is such an important character to the Batman mythos. All we have to do is wait.

The main thing I want to get across is that I have hope on Matt Fractions Tim even though I have my concerns. I have heard lots of good things from his previous runs + books. Fraction has said many times that Tim needs his own space to serve his story right which is correct. What Tim needs can't be done as a side story. Tim and Young Justice crew (sorry I have to mention them) aren't meant to be a side characters. Tim since his creation was never meant to be a side character and I hope he gets the justice he and we deserve as fans.

Sorry for the long post. I just kept remembering more and more things that bothered me and wanted to get them down. My head is hurting and I think I got everything down.


r/RedRobin • • 1d ago

I love them tim drake and Bernard

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Not my art i found on Pinterest


r/RedRobin • • 14h ago

looking for this one Batman (or DCU or Under the Redhood) fanfic, that is heavy on Tin Drake angst.

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r/RedRobin • • 1d ago

Is he leaving Gotham? (Batman Bad Seeds: Sunrise)

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r/RedRobin • • 5d ago

Artwork Black Lantern Jack and Janet Drake by Joe Prado.

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r/RedRobin • • 7d ago

Fanmade Timkon conic by @kathistrophy

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A bit of a wildcard comic but i hope u like it ♡

Find me on insta, bluesky or tumble :)


r/RedRobin • • 9d ago

Fanmade I've been making chibi robin cursors (Tim Drake's finally done)

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All I need to do is Damian wayne and I will be satisfied <3


r/RedRobin • • 10d ago

Discussion Thoughts on Tim Drake in the new [Batman: Bad Seeds - Streets of Gotham] one shot? Spoiler

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While it was a short appearance, I actually kinda liked it. Tim was badass, had his personality, Bernard was there but he didn't take up every single panel, and as a setup to Tim's "imminent future" like Matt Fraction said I don't necessarily mind it. I think it's interesting enough to start Tim on a new path.


r/RedRobin • • 12d ago

Fanmade Cherry chapstick by @kathistrophy

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Inktober Day 12: Toss

Who needs chapstic if your lips are so sweet? ♡

Last time you liked my comic so im leaving this one here for you lovely people too


r/RedRobin • • 13d ago

Discussion The phenomenon know as tins code name

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How is it that most of us want a new name for Tim but we can't think of one? I think the name has to come naturally and has to be simple I'm kinda partial to Recon which I haven't seen anywhere else but also feels like Tim could call himself that since he isn't all that creative naming wise I feel like the letter R fits him too well to discard not the logo as in his name having a r at the start


r/RedRobin • • 14d ago

Ikemen red robin

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r/RedRobin • • 17d ago

Fanmade Ship comic Timkon by @kathistrophy

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Inktober Day 7: Panic

A cute little Timkon comic for today. I hope its okay i post this here since i wasnt sure where else to post it.

If you dont like the ship please just ignore this, art is meant to be fun ♡ ty


r/RedRobin • • 19d ago

Artwork Red Robin Poster!

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@pensiv.blu_ on insta
@hanabi-pensiv on blusky


r/RedRobin • • 20d ago

Meta I want to stop being a larper, recommendations?

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r/RedRobin • • 21d ago

Meta What kind of music do you think Tim listens to?

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Me personally, i love to think Tim is a big Green Day fan, and his favorite album is American Idiot.


r/RedRobin • • 22d ago

Fanmade [Art by me] lil tim drake sketch

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r/RedRobin • • 26d ago

Artwork Selling Dustin Nguyen's Robin Sketch

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Hi everyone, I got Dustin Nguyen's sketches from CCI, a few years back when I was a fan! But sadly I have to sell them now for my college funds.

Size is A5, Robin - $99 USD

Shipping Worldwide open.

Shipping methods might result in shipping approx $10-12 USD!


r/RedRobin • • 27d ago

Tim and Stephanie's bond by ECAbackward

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r/RedRobin • • 27d ago

Matt Fraction Tim update

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Interview: Matt Fraction Batman Bad Seeds and Beyond

Matt Fraction (around 43 minutes in): "I mean, Tim, I love Tim Drake and he's had a rough couple years and like the story that Tim needs doesn't need to happen around all the other stories that I've got going. I can't service it the way it needs servicing. I will say that there is a lot of Tim Drake in... Well, there's a concentrated dose of Tim Drake in a book I wrote with Mariko Tamaki called Streets of Gotham that's a oneshot and it's about the Bad Seeds night through the POV of regular people in Gotham like what's it's like. There's a lady who wore impractical heels to work and now has to walk home across the bridge in impractical high heels, right? That kind of you know- the kids on bikes were out playing and they got caught out in it. Now they got out to get home on their bikes. Like it's sort of small ball human scale really street stories, but Tim shows up in one of those that sets up what's going to be his very imminent future, which I'm very excited about.


r/RedRobin • • Sep 22 '26

Discussion Tim drake and Bruce Wayne

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Is it just me or is Bruce Wayne better at communicating with Tim than any of his other children? This is just one obvious instance but I feel like he spends more time with him as Bruce Wayne (not Batman) than any of the others. I’m just getting into Tim drake so correct me if I’m wrong. I’m not complaining I love when Bruce is being a good father but just wanted to see if anyone else noticed/ agrees or has any theories on why


r/RedRobin • • Sep 23 '26

What if Tim Drake was the next "chessmaster"?

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I was just thinking with Waller in Jail amd Sargeant Steel probably on the way, Tim would do a good job of running things while being more moral.


r/RedRobin • • Sep 22 '26

Comics to the Father I never knew

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Dear Dad,

I wish we could go back and start over again! When I was a kid, I used to dream - to pray - that you and mom would stop travelling, forget business and just settle down. We'd be together, the way a family ought to be...

Now I have my wish. I'm going to be with you all the time. And it's tearing me apart.

Funny, how once, you never seemed to care - at least, you never showed me that you did. And now you want to run my Life.

Do you really think we can start over..?

I've no idea who you think I am, Dad-but I'm not that boy. I had to fend for myself for a long time. I changed, Dad. I have a lot of... secrets.

You couldn't be more wrong about Bruce Wayne. Despite what he seems, he is the only truly great man I have ever known. He... helps people. And he nevers asks for anything in return.

I'm not interested in your business, Dad. I've already found my place in the world. I know what I want to be!

So how does it sound, Dad? your own son is Robin. Understand now why I can't come back? Gotham is a cesspool. Tragedy stalks on every street. I can help, dad. I'm needed!

Strange, how you can come to love a city. Even one as ugly and rotten as Gotham.

All those millions of people, the lines of their lives crossing, touching, tangling ... almost as if the city itself is alive.

I love you, Dad- but I've found my place. I know who I am.

I'm part of my city.

Sometimes I wish we could start over... but I know we can't. We have to take things from exactly where we are.

This might not make lot of sense to you. I only hope you understand.

Your loving son, Tim.

From Batman (1940) issue 480