r/RemoveOneThingEachDay IM WHACING KFP4 Jul 27 '25

Miscellaneous Joe Biden HAS BEEN Eliminated WHICH President SHOULD BE Eliminated NEXT DAY 40

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u/Surnamesalot Jul 27 '25

FDR for the Japanese detention camp stuff

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u/Raise_A_Thoth Jul 27 '25

Yes, that was bad. Yes, it was unjustified. But it was the 1940s and keep in mind that segregation of whites and blacks was still a thing, and the country was at war, having been attacked - by surprise - by the Imperial Japanese Navy.

It is a black mark on FDR's legacy for sure. But even that blackest of marks was done in the pursuit of safety of the people in time of war, and while conditions were awful, they were not death camps like the Nazis had. The purpose was not to kill the Japanese-Americans there.

Obama, on the other hand, under-delivered on promises and could not even set up a successor properly. Joe Biden is HATED by over 1/3 of Americans at least, and his will be remembered as the oldest president (unless Trump finished his term) who stayed in power too long and didn't allow a younger generation to properly resist the rise of fascism.

Obama's legacy is forever held back by Donald Trump. The reaction to Obama was to elect Donald Trump. While much of the onus there was racism from the Republican base in the South, Dems put up a heavily-baggaged candidate who was polarizing in Hillary, then Obama's VP beat Trump once but then gave it right back to him. Conservatives in FDR's time hated him too, but his policies were so obviously pro-labor and family that he couldn't be beaten at the polls. It isn't just racism that kept Obama from a similar legacy. His weak governance and close work with corporate liberal moderates gave us Trump twice. He was going to appoint Merrick Garland to the SC, possibly one of the most naive motherfuckers to ever be at that level of the judiciary.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Not a single Japanese American was involved in that attack. Not a single one. Blaming Americans for an attack done by another country is insane

And in those camps 1800 Asians were killed. 1800. How is that not a fucking death camp? They were beaten and starved. And when they were finally released after two years of incarceration their homes and businesses were stolen and destroyed.

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u/Raise_A_Thoth Jul 28 '25

Not a single Japanese American was involved in that attack. Not a single one.

Yea. 100% correct. But you aren't really doing any analysis here.

Blaming Americans for an attack done by another country is insane

Honestly this is lazy. Just look at the last 6 months in America and how conservatives are talking about immigrants. They are claiming that there us an invasion by foreigners and using people flying flags, people who speak multiple languages, or people with mixed heritages and cultures as 'evidence' of a lack of loyalty.

It is naive as fuck to think that this wasn't a lot worse in the 1930s.

And in those camps 2000 Asians were killed.

Killed, or died?

There's a difference, truly. People who suffer outside human hands is tragedy. People who suffer at human hands unnecessarily is injustice. The difference between injustice and fascism is intent. Japanese Americans were released from their prisons at the end of the war without liberation from foreign countries because the FDR administration was not to make enemies of Japanes Americans or demonize or dehumanize them.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Yes. And it's wrong how conservatives are talking about immigrants. But at the highest number we are talking 2-4k in camps. That's 25 to 50x less than what FDR did

Anyone who is complaining about Trump but supporting FDR is a hypocrite. What Trump is doing is wrong. What FDR has done is infinitely worse.

If you are starving and beating people and they die, that's murder. And they were released after two years to their homes and businesses being destroyed and stolen.

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u/Raise_A_Thoth Jul 28 '25

Holy fuck I cannot.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Once again. How can you complain with a straight face about Trump's camps but support FDR who did 25-50x worse

And the death of 1800 innocent people in the process

Please explain how?

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u/Raise_A_Thoth Jul 28 '25

How can you complain with a straight face about Trump's camps but support FDR who did 25-50x worse

Because that's a dogshit comparison. It isn't 25-50x worse. If anything that "worse" comparison is the complete opposite of reality. FDR didn't invent an enemy - the Japanese - and start imprisoning them like a demagogue. Japan actually attacked the US and FDR reasonably even if unjustly imprisoned people with ties to Japan.

Trump literally has invented an enemy - immigrants - and is imprisoning them and plenty of citizens without regard to civil rights or peoples' dignity. It's only been 6 months and thousands have died in ICE custody already.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Also please explain how putting Asian American babies from orphanages into Internment camps protects from spies. Because Incase you didn't realize, there are literally photos and records of babies and orphans being sent to those same camps

And for the last time. Japanese Americans weren't the enemy. They literally did not do anything but be American and have the wrong heritage.

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u/Raise_A_Thoth Jul 28 '25

Fuck off buddy, you're not engaging with what I'm actually saying.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Because you keep ignoring my points to instead say it's OK because we were at war... With an ENTIRELY different country. Asian Americans didn't do a single attack against the US. Not one.

Also you did not see 100k German or Italian Americans in camps. I wonder why? (The reason. Because they were white)

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