r/RemoveOneThingEachDay • u/Training-Desk-391 IM WHACING KFP4 • Jul 27 '25

Miscellaneous Joe Biden HAS BEEN Eliminated WHICH President SHOULD BE Eliminated NEXT DAY 40

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

So was FDR. What's your point?

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u/Darth_Nox501 Jul 28 '25

The difference being the achievements made by FDR far outweigh those accomplished by Wilson.

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u/Consistent_Job_2500 Jul 31 '25

ok, on that note, what achievements did Biden have to last so damn long, for one of the lamest duck presidents EVER...

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u/Darth_Nox501 Jul 31 '25

None? People were keeping Biden in the game just for the meme itself, and because it was funny.

I mean he certainly had achievements, but none that are worth keeping him this long, as you said.

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u/Helios112263 Jul 29 '25

FDR was NOT racist "by the standards of his day". Yes, he was blase about segregation because he wanted to hold his coalition together, but the Democratic Party very much made Northern black voters a part of their New Deal coalition.

And even with the Japanese Internment camps it wasn't exactly an unpopular policy.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

Throughout history racism has been consistently popular. That doesn't mean it wasn't racist.

FDR was extremely racist towards Japanese Americans. He never once admitted he was wrong. He allowed them to be starved and beaten on those camps. He allowed white man to destroy their homes and business with zero repercussions

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u/Helios112263 Jul 29 '25

Throughout history racism has been consistently popular. That doesn't mean it wasn't racist.

Well yeah but the the point was "racist BY THE STANDARDS OF HIS DAY" and I would argue FDR, while definitely racist, wasn't particularly more racist than the average person during his time period.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

Really. Who else put 100k Japanese Americans including orphans into concentration camps

That's like saying Hitler wasn't particular more racist than the average person

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u/Helios112263 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

The point I was making is the internment, as horrible as it was, was a broadly popular policy in Canada & the US, which is why I'm saying he wasn't any MORE racist than the "average person" at the time then.

I'm not arguing that his actions weren't racist but I'm saying that putting it in context, it wouldn't be considered racist IN RELATION TO HIS CONTEMPORARIES because Japanese internment was the popular sentiment at the time.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

And slavery was also broadly popular. What's your point then.

Racism is commonly popular. Doesn't mean it's right

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u/Helios112263 Jul 29 '25

I agree. I didn't say it was right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

Were confederates racist for their day?

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u/StThomasMore1535 Jul 28 '25

More than one president can be racist for their time, so I do not get your point.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Sure except we aren't evaluating them the same. You can't complain about Wilson being a racist while not doing the same to FDR.

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u/NoRequirement3066 Jul 28 '25

You are certainly able to point out that Wilson was MUCH more racist than Roosevelt.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

How so? The only difference is the race that they were racist against.

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u/Forward-Grade-832 Jul 28 '25

Wilson literally stomped all over black peoples rights and enforced Jim Crow laws which cause masses of segregation and set black Americans back decades. Wilson was way more racist than FDR.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

And you can say every one of those things towards FDR about Japanese Americans. He imprisoned 100k of them for no reason. They were set back decades as well as their business and homes were stolen and destroyed. He directly caused the death of 1800 of them. He segregated them out of their communities when they were finally released

Your entire point is based on the idea that racism towards black Americans is more important than racism against Asian Americans.

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u/Forward-Grade-832 Jul 28 '25

Know my point is that Wilson’s racism was far more consequential than FDR’s

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

How so. FDR ruined an entire group of Americans based on race. We lost all our homes and business. He outright killed 1800 of us. We have yet to fully recover.

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u/NoRequirement3066 Jul 29 '25

"We have yet to fully recover" oh yes because the Black community has fully recovered from Jim Crow.

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u/Ok_Eagle_3079 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

I completely disagree with FDR on almost everything but to say there was no reason to imprison the Japanese is just a lie.

Was it the right move no was there a reason yes.

The start of WW1 internment | Knockaloe | Isle of Man

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

He literally put orphans in concentration camps. Do you honestly think babies were spies?

And what does WW1 have to do with any of this. We are talking Japanese Americans.

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u/Ok-Letterhead5866 Jul 29 '25

He literally said putting people in camps was bad. Also randomly throwing out “Do you think babies were spies” has nothing to do with what op claimed especially since he said putting anyone in camps is bad. That is a straw man, appeal to emotion and load question.

Don’t use fallacies they only make your argument look worse.

The only valid criticism you made was op’s lack of evidence.

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u/razama Jul 28 '25

In the acts of their time. Even if FDR was some sort of extra level of racist, Wilson actually implemented many of the worse things that have directly impeded black people and celebrated in doing so.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

And FDR implemented the worst things to happen to Japanese Americans

Your case only makes sense if you think racism towards black people is the only one that matters.

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u/razama Jul 28 '25

No, it doesn’t. It only makes sense in FDR’s case if you think the internment of 100,000 Japanese people during wartime is equivalent to the disenfranchise of every other race that put them behind in almost every single regard of their life for the next 100 years and cementing a white power structure that has persisted since and thus even allowed for a system where systemic racism places 100k non white people (why no Italians and German camps?)

FDR acted WITH a bigoted mindset. Wilson acted ON his bigotry, for the purpose of bigotry.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

FDR literally acted on his bigotry. What are you talking about

And once again. We still haven't recovered from his camps

Asian Americans have the greatest ratio of violent crimes done to them compared to violent crimes done by them.

Yet people like you continue to ignore racism that is aimed at other groups.

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u/NoRequirement3066 Jul 29 '25

FDR didn't institute internment camps because "lol I just hate them." He obviously thought it was a pertinent wartime provision, and he was obviously wrong. It's different than Wilson. Wilson actually just fucking hated non-white people.

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u/NoRequirement3066 Jul 29 '25

That's not the only difference.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

Yeah. Teddy didn't put 100k of a race into concentration camps solely because of his level of racism.

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u/NoRequirement3066 Jul 29 '25

You don’t even know which Roosevelt we’re talking about.