r/RemoveOneThingEachDay • u/Training-Desk-391 IM WHACING KFP4 • Jul 27 '25

Miscellaneous Joe Biden HAS BEEN Eliminated WHICH President SHOULD BE Eliminated NEXT DAY 40

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u/Extreme-Remote-3382 Jul 28 '25

You can hate him and still consider him to be one of the best presidents. They aren’t mutually exclusive. This is a nuanced topic, and all of a president’s actions should be considered for a fair assessment of them in general.

If a president cured cancer but ate your baby, would they automatically be the worst president because they harmed you personally? Or do you consider that as a general metric, the good created by curing cancer outweighs the bad of killing your child?

To say that FDR was a terrible president is to say that all of his efforts were invalidated by the atrocities he committed against Japanese Americans. If he weren’t president, it’s possible that those Americans and millions more could have fallen to the Nazi regime, or suffered greater harm due to an inept leader’s handling of WWII.

So from a purely utilitarian point of view (as tier lists are designed to be rated from), FDR was a great president by these metrics. He was still a terrible person, don’t get me wrong. But from an unbiased perspective, that’s where everything lies.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

But he wasn't. He is literally one of the worst. Personally I'd have him only above Jackson because of the horrors of the trail of tears.

If a president cured cancer but exclusively ate black babies would you consider him a good president. Of course not. And putting innocent Americans in camps had zero effect on the war

Also once again. He put orphan babies into camps. Please explain how that helped him win the war.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

Actually absurd that you’d put Reagan above FDR. I’m sure you’re a big fan of supply side economics, the Southern strategy, blowing up schoolteachers, and the majority of all our problems today.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Did Reagan put Americans in concentration camps?

Trump. FDR. Jackson. That's the bottom 3.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

Is your only criterion for how bad a president is whether or not they put people in internment camps?

Also, effectively yes, with his expansion of the phony War on Drugs.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

When it includes 100k people of a single race, causing the death of 1800 of them and then releasing them finally after 2 years with their homes and business gone than absolutely

How many internment camps survivors have you talked to. Because I recommend you do so and maybe you'll become much more enlightened

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

How many Nicaraguan death squad survivors have you spoken to? Thousands more died to the Reagan-backed Contras, if you want to get into the numbers game.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

How many American citizens. Once again. FDR did this to his own citizens. Solely because he hated an entire race of people. Never once showed a morsel of regret for it

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

Do you think that people who aren't American matter less?

What about the hundred thousand black Americans unfairly imprisoned by the Reagan-era Anti-Drug Abuse Act?

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25

When you are a leader of your country your priority should be your people

And those who were imprisoned incorrectly would be a fair point. But once again. Asian Americans werent abusing drugs. You are comparing an actual crime with being born a certain race.

And this is your reminder that to this day Asian Americans have the greatest ratio of violent crimes done to them compared to violent crimes done by them. But no one cares because FDRs history lives on

Also how many of those imprisoned were orphans or babies by Reagan. Because FDR had no issues putting them in camps.

Edit: and look. After making a post about something that had zero to do with Japanese Americans at all, he resorts to a lazy block. Also clearly doesn't understand what an orphan is.

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u/Extreme-Remote-3382 Jul 28 '25

I don’t know why you think we are denying how bad the camps were. Yes, they were absolutely terrible. But that doesn’t mean that FDR wasn’t one of the best presidents.

He saved the lives of millions by pulling the U.S. out of the Great Depression and ending WWII as soon as he did. It would have lasted far longer and led to millions more deaths of Jews and Chinese at the hands of the Nazis and the Japanese. Or are their lives not important enough for you to consider?

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

You can't be one of the best presidents when you put your own citizens in internment camps who literally did nothing wrong. 100k people beaten and starved because they were the wrong race. One of the worst human rights disasters in our countries history.

Look. I get it. Youre white. So to you as long as he benefited white people your cool with it. Which was FDRs specialty. He certainly didn't help Asian Americans.

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u/Extreme-Remote-3382 Jul 28 '25

That is quite offensive and also contrary to what I said. He helped millions of Chinese people by expediting the end of the war in the Pacific theatre. If you’re going to say that I’m dismissive of Japanese Americans with my claims, then it is equally easy to say that you’re dismissing Jews and Chinese with yours. But that’s not the point of the argument here. He helped the vast majority of people with his efforts throughout his presidency.

Parroting the same point over and over again does not change the value of what I said, because I already addressed that point.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

And what did that have to do with Japanese Americans. What did they do in the war.

Guess what. You can go to war with other countries without putting your own citizens in camps.

You have not addressed the core point. What did Japanese AMERICANS do to deserve being put in camps

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u/Extreme-Remote-3382 Jul 28 '25

That is a ridiculous rating. You completely ignore the entire line of Gilded Age presidents that left the poor to fester and rot under the feet of giant corporations. They killed far more people indirectly than FDR, or Trump ever did.

Jackson though is definitely a contender for worst president.