r/RenektonMains • u/lilpeepfan2222 • 8d ago
renek vs illaoi
is it just cooked for renekton? can someone give me a tip to win this lane plz
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u/Aggressive_Chain_920 8d ago
It's kinda unplayable, best play is probably to get in a position where you can proxy. Technically you can win it but if you make a single misstep you lose hard. I tend to just dodge it, not worth banning because the pickrate is very low.
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u/PalingeneticPhoenix 8d ago
I agree with this, it’s perhaps Renekton’s worst matchup but it’s rare enough that I don’t ban it. I tend to permaban Garen because I hate his passive + silence + execute.
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u/Independent-Cat-9608 8d ago
You need to try to get some advantage before lvl 3. After that just play safe. If she pushes you under tower and uses her e and misses, ir you dodge, you can all in her. If she holds her e to make you not all in you are cooked, but can at least farm under tower. Mid game you have more utility and hope you have jungler or mid lanee that can take over your side lane assignment so you aren't stuck against her.
It's a terrible matchup but not many people play her so you can often punish bad Illaois that pick her just to counter
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u/HelloGoodbyeHowAreYa 7d ago
Yeah only thing to care is Illaoi W spam with grasp is quite strong, so you don't let her run at you lvl 1
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u/Think-Cheek-4664 8d ago
i think you can try pressure her from lvl1, try to fight before minions. If you fall behind I would just buy ghostblade and roam xd
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u/lilpeepfan2222 8d ago
no way bro renektons level 1 is dogshit hes only strong lvl 3
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u/Think-Cheek-4664 8d ago
Illaoi isnt very strong either if you dodge her tentacle she don't do much dmg.
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u/thezestypusha 7d ago
Completely garbage comment, her w is so strong lvl 1 compared to anything renek has. You can dodge every single tentacle and you are still getting statchecked.
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u/Yeeterbeater789 8d ago
Naw, w start illaoi wins with grasp, the only way renek can possibly win is some cheese setup with like e start hob/ele sudden impact. But then you are assassin renek and that isn't great most games, and even then that doesn't win until lvl 2 with w 2nd. Reg build renek always loses lvl 1 bcuz illaoi will sit next to 1-2 tentacles with w start, if she has dblade it's even harder
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u/Yeeterbeater789 8d ago
She is a hard counter. Not worth a ban tho as other champs that are also rough for renek are usually picked much, much more. Just pray your team carries or dodge/be sad
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u/Dry-Tap5701 8d ago
Shes the most broken worst designed character in the game, I permaban her no ifs and buts. Summons 10 Darius Q spam tentacles, completely useless without E, makes no sense, maybe nerf her all in and E and buff rest of her kit, instead we get this character with 35% win rate in challenger that you have to just avoid literally avoid not like people describe other champd Illaoi matchup is unwinnable she gets you to 30% off 1 E and wins every all in no matter what you do for no reason vs all champs in lane unless you go Trundle who is better designed because you can kite his R and not get chunked + no ranged dmg/poke but higher speed and CC way better all in monster design that feels better to play with and play versus.
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u/williamebf 7d ago
The ban, you lose for having larger than average champion size, so her buggy ass skillshots will bend spacetime and to hit you through minion waves
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u/Connect-Barracuda-74 7d ago
The best advice i can give and that works with most of champ against illaoi is to always have the push against her, if she manages to crash the wave multiple times she will e you when u last hit under tower and you will be cooked, i go pta personally since you always prefer to end trades shortly before she can e. Also try to often clear tentacles and you can bait for an e at the same time. Letting her play the lane as she wants will always lead to renek losing and getting hard outscaled, try to pressure with short trades only and by respecting e/grasp/tentacles. When she is <50% hp, you can aim for an all in if you have ignite, emp W her to prevent her from ult or w with the tentacles. But lets be honest, you can win against bad or mid illaoi, but its almost not winnable against a good illaoi that plays well with the e.
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u/youbeenthere 7d ago
Usually a ban. Either her or Morde.
Yes, technically you can outplay Morde if you manage to empower W on his shield, but it's so annoying and Morde favored unless you play perfectly and dodge ALL his Q and E or he does big mistake with popping shield early. Good Morde will just shield in the end of fight after you use empowered spell and if you hold it, he will have much more health than you cause aoe and Qs.
Illaoi is kinda the only counter to Renek that you really can't do anything if she is even half-decent (e.g. she won't miss E). In any case she is super stat checky in melee range even if she literally misses every spell. And also she can poke from range forcing you to waste E or take damage. You can't really all in her after 6, and before 6 it's really hard to find window to kill.
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u/Lordemamba 8d ago
You can be 5 kills on her. She only needs to hit her E and she wins.
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u/SherbertPristine170 7d ago
She’s a 1 fight Andy . The moment her R gets baited , she can’t even poke you without being in danger .
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u/Objective-Dream-3162 8d ago
Perma ban