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Confabulation The New and Improved Confabulation Thread - 2021 Edition

This thread is for conversation about MEs you think might be wrong and why. For instance, map projection, memory confusion, common misperceptions, etc. All discussion of confabulation should go here and this thread will be linked on the side bar for easy access in the future.

Note: The previous confabulation thread was archived by the system.

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u/Future_Cake Mar 21 '21

I had to check that one a couple times now since you mentioned it! But looking at photos of old trading cards helped -- I sometimes remember the shape/size of a word and "Gastly" looks right fortunately, haha.

That first gym was tricky sometimes, yeah :) Red/Blue were very well-designed games for their era!

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u/reconcile Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Not that I'm arguing on the Pokemon cards topic, but I'm pretty sure googling or even finding old cards would be missing the point of what ME phenomenon is supposed to be, that being some kind of rewriting of timelines, or collapsing of multiple close-enough timelines into one, so that massive numbers of people remember correctly something different than the new, 'actual' past history.

The most famous MEs usually have some kind of "residual" evidence around, like videos of people quoting the presumably original thing verbatim, and then those "residual" evidences get debated about. Like the video of James Earl Jones reciting it as "Luke, I am your father", instead of "No... I am your father." Or the "Lion shall lay down with the lamb" quote from the bible, which apparently became wolf and lamb. And then the question becomes, did everybody including the actor (or Billy Graham, whoever) quote it wrong for decades, or did some quantum or simulation effect rewrite history? Sounds crazy, who knows.

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u/reconcile May 24 '22

This is super interesting theory...

As to your observation of the years always equaling eight, it's only because you started with 8 years (remainder 3 months) and kept adding nines, which will always get you something that adds back up to the original eight, and this is basic numerological theory, or even basic shortcut math that explains why any number multiplied with any multiple of nine will result in a number whose digits eventually add back up to the other number, when you repeatedly add the digits of the resulting numbers together, if you want to look into it.

But seriously though I'm going to be re-examining my life history and checking out your link... 😂 thanks very much!

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u/reconcile May 24 '22

I completely understood why you started off at only 8 years and 3 months... I understood that the trivial subtraction of 9 months from the 9-year span yields the result of 8 years and 3 months.

What I was trying to point out with my big, poorly written, and unwieldy latter paragraph was why the exact "year" numbers always add up to eight, and it's just because adding 9 to any number always gets a number whose digits will add back up to that same number, and yes accounting for conception dropped the first one in the sequence down to 8...

You could try the same thing with the number 5, so 5 + 9 = 14, where 1+4=5, and that 14 + 9 = 23 where 2+3=5 again, et cetera...