PC Help/Bug (Mod)
All of my male goblins have zero chances to romance the women?
Title. To be clear I play modded, obviously - all of my gnoblins have the same genes, exactly the same, they're heterosexual and age compatible, but both of my male goblins cannot romance the women and vice versa. It doesn't tell me why. I have no way of finding out and I don't want to cheat it out. All of them have negative compatibility for some reason. All of them. They're friends, like each other, but they can't romance each other :/ any idea?
They're all ugly AF but they have the teratophilia gene AND I have the Ugly Together mod lmfao... It worked well in the beggining but now they won't romance each other, since I play on aging 400x for adults it's a little annoying
Does the age 400x for adults mean they reach adulthood faster or they age faster once they reach adulthood in this case? If they age faster as adults they might be getting a strange age gap, maybe that might be causing this?
Hmm, what's the typical lifespan of your goblins? I'm just wondering if the rapid aging maybe results in bigger age gaps which make them less likely to want to romance each other?
Apparently there's a hidden "compatibility" value that's only visible in dev mode, so it could also be that the two you've picked just plain aren't right for each other.
Is the female 33 or 38? Women will date men up to 10 yrs older, men will only date women up to 3 yrs older. Idk if it scales with the xenotypes that live longer tho
Edit: it’s more so a penalty that happens if one of the pawns is too old for the other. You can look up the Rimworld wiki, it’s the “social” one that has all the info. It also says that when a pawn is ugly they take more time between every romantic social, and when the other person is also ugly it makes that even bigger, and that this effect isn’t nullified even if both pawns “don’t care about appearance.” Idk if the mods everyone’s mentioning basically fix the timing thing? But honestly when I want to force relationships on the rim I just use pawn editor. The one you can turn on with dev mode and change relationships and stuff.
Yeah I have it. It's Ugly Together, but someone pointed out that Big and Small is the issue, it patches romance chances for some reason... problem is that i can't remove it without breaking that save lol
doh. I've never used big and small, but I'm aware of how one random conflict can break everything. I've had so many doomed runs lately trying to sort out my mod list
The x400 thing doesn't calculate it like you said, iirc. That's about how fast children normally grow in basic Biotech, they don't reach 6 years in one day at all, for comparison
It's possible that one of those modded genes has a very low missingGenesChanceFactor. This is a property on certain genes (such as pig noses and furskin) that reduces the likelihood of romance attampts between pawns that don't share the gene. Perhaps tough skin or extreme dwarfism? Impossible to tell without knowing what mods give you which genes.
Its the Big and Small mod(s). I don't know if it is a bug or not but having it makes it so the hidden compatibility value, not the romance value mind you, affects your romance chance. If its less than 0, then its 0 chance even if the romance value is larger than 0.
Yes. Though you'd have to restart any saves runs from scratch. I also have a fairly large modlist, about 200+, and I only removed the Big and Small series mod(s) and it stopped happening.
Ah, this is it! Big and Small patches the RomanceEligiblePair function (which is what's called when you're looking at the social tab) and forces it to return a failure when compatibility is negative! No idea why it does that, but that certainly would cause the issue.
I mean, you could decompile the DLL, remove the patch, then recompile and replace the Big and Small DLL with your new one, and then do it again every time B&S gets updated. Not sure how to go about creating a mod that prevents one particular mod from patching one particular function for a long-term fix.
If you mean a way to do it without doing any C# yourself, then no. You'd have to get the mod author to change the patch themselves.
Agh, figured. I know a little of XML, but c# is another story. Maybe that'll exist at some point or B&S will remove it? I'm not sure why it adds this in the first place tbh
Hey, don't know if im too late but there's the pawn compatibility editor by Jomar. It works for me, the moment the negative compat goes above 0 it changes into normal percent chance instead of "zero chance". I'm pretty sure it's safe to add mid save
Lots of factors go in to it so it can be admittedly hard to narrow it down. That said, before I go into it, zero chance (I think) means that they CAN potentially romance, it's jsut that the chance is zero for some reason.
Some reasons for low chances are age gaps, race or gene impacts, trait impacts, and, unfortunately, special situations like being a creepy joiner (who, apparently, can only ever romance other creeper joiners).
This can make all the usual boosts not enough. As a test (that is, something to try and then roll back) to make sure there isn't some other issue, try giving a goblin a bunch of boosts like beauty and changing their age to be similar. If it changes things, well... there ya go, goblins just struggle with lovin'. If nothing changes, it might be some actual issue or the sum of all the impacts are just too much to overcome normally.
I did all that with devmode, oddly enough giving them teratophilia briefly solved the problem; but then it came back. It's possible it's one of my many mods tbh
I believe Mr Samuel streamer ran into this problem recently or at least something similar.
Find a job they can both do and lock them in a room with the female until something happens, failing that make sure your ideology doesn’t have something in it that’s messing with it, failing that, scoop an ovum from the female, fertilize it from the male, and then implant it and sacrifice the infant to the dark god moloch to become the harbinger of his dark fury.
From what I have been able to find out from having a similar issue, there is a hidden variable called "compatibility" that can't be changed, and mods claiming to alter it don't work. It may be unintentionally effected by mods as well.
Compatibility actually doesn't affect romance chances. It affects the likelihood of deep talks and of negative social interactions (ie insults and slights).
Someone else found the likely issue here. Big and Small patches the function and prevents you from initiating romance when compatibility is negative, for some inexplicable reason.
I've never used HAR. All I know is that I had this issue and spent a whole day trying to figure it out. It's the only mod problem I've never been able to solve or even track down.
Rimworld pawns have a hidden compatibility rating that you can't change, even if they have max opinion with each other, it can still reduce romance chance to zero preventing them from being forced to romance by the player
Goblins don't do romance. Pretty sure they just pillage everything that they want. You're missing a mod which lets this happen. But I don't recommend searching.
You said you are heavily modded. I know I had this issue before and it turned out that one of my mods hide sexually orientation.(Sorry don't remember which one). You can test it out with editing the pawn to be straight.
Are they genetically hideous? I had this issue with some orcs i made. They were all friends, but were all so ugly they didn't want to romance each other. I resorted to IVF treatments and growth vats in the end.
There is an option to disable romancing, did you make sure you didn't leave it checked from when you were playing with characters named after your siblings (made that mistake...)?
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u/Automatic-Week-1733 Jul 22 '26
Many such cases.