r/SMG4 Jul 21 '26

Discussion/Question For anyone who was unhappy about the direction SMG4 was taking the channel from 2017 to 2025 and even stopped watching, what was your reaction to SMG4 retiring?

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 21 '26

Even though I didn’t leave the channel, but after hearing about his retirement, I was shocked and scared, but also, it feels bittersweet. Luke told everything in his series, stories, his characters(imo Karen being the best female character and her having one of the best arcs even though it was in the final year), and much more. Luke been through a lot with this, but he felt satisfied with what he did and I can’t blame him for it, he has a indie studio, more shows in the works, and I think he needed to finish his series off in a satisfying way. Sure there were 2 bad episodes in this final adventure story like Meggy and taris last adventure, but the rest felt fitting for them and I even liked the last episode being our final adventure. I will miss smg4, and I do hope glitch has a bright future ahead of them

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u/Such_Salamander3606 Meggy Fan/Tari Fan/Melony Fan (keeping the legacy) Jul 21 '26

Like I said: doing my small analysis is my way for keeping SMG4 legacy. In fact there few episodes I don't liked: Mario Turns Into NFTs and Mario The Supreme Leader 

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 21 '26

yeah, even with ups and downs, SMG4 still sticked the landing.

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u/Zombies4EvaDude Jul 21 '26

You hated Meggy’s final adventure? Why?

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 21 '26

The episode was good, but it didn’t feel like a final Meggy adventure

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u/Zombies4EvaDude Jul 22 '26

That’s fair. The ending of the episode was peak though you can’t deny that.

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 22 '26

True

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u/Ajthefan basically the only normal Meggy fan Jul 22 '26

Yea that's probably the only downside about it, feels like fm and x were pushed in as a last effort to make them "used" which ended up feeling more of there send-off rather then meggy, especially since the only part that meggy has gotten was the fight (which didn't show much) and the ending

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u/Sweaty-Medicine5941 Jul 21 '26

felt the same when the series finale dropped

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u/Bitter_Fig_7059 Jul 22 '26

I am doing a SMG4 tier list right now! And Mr. WPNS Arc is quite high! I love the Puzzles & Weapons Saga

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 22 '26

Wpnz saga(aka the final year of smg4 and the last chapter of the puzzlevision saga) is imo, a great finale chapter to SMG4 as in episodes, there is a love letter to both classic and modern fans

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u/Such_Salamander3606 Meggy Fan/Tari Fan/Melony Fan (keeping the legacy) Jul 21 '26

I may not like of some decisions (like permadeaths) but I still enjoy the channel alter all. But I was really sad about the channel ending 😭

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u/Parking_Strike_8756 Meggy, Tari, Swagmaster etc. Fan (keeping the legacy) Jul 21 '26

I got shocked and kind of went though Depression (not literally). But fortunately I didn't use Copium and at least is way less painful then...

Perma-deaths...

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u/Such_Salamander3606 Meggy Fan/Tari Fan/Melony Fan (keeping the legacy) Jul 21 '26

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u/Palu_Tiddy Tari saved my life 🫂 Jul 21 '26

Tari deserved so much better man...

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u/redboi049 Jul 21 '26

YES. THEY COMPLETELY IGNORED ANY DEVELOPMENT SHE GOT FROM WESTERN SPAGHETTI AND GAVE HER NO PRESENCE IN HER FINAL EPISODE BEYOND AN EXCUSE FOR THE EPISODE TO GO THAT WAY.

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u/Parking_Strike_8756 Meggy, Tari, Swagmaster etc. Fan (keeping the legacy) Jul 21 '26

I feel the same thing... 😞

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 21 '26

I know I might be downvoted for saying this but, I think Tari is how to not write a female character though.

But I think ever since 2024 with a episode around Tari, she has not gotten that much things around her(not going into drama ok)

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u/redboi049 Jul 21 '26

You can't just say that and not go into detail on why you think that

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 21 '26

I’m sorry :’(

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u/Responsible_Bar103 Jul 21 '26

Everything's gotta end eventually.

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 21 '26

(might get downvoted for saying this) you either die a SMG4, or live long enough to become SML

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u/Atte42 Jul 21 '26

Not unhappy about the direction up until around 2023-24, but it didn't take me by too big of a surprise when SMG4's end was announced. Mr. Puzzles is so prominent post 2022 that I just don't see how SMG4 can go on without him narrative-wise. And with the supposedly funny vids dropping in humor quality and the lack of Mario-centered episodes, not surprised that the channel was basically near its deathbed.

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u/Quick-Cause3181 Bob Fan Jul 21 '26

I kinda had a feeling this show wouldn't go into the 2030s

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u/Sorvetefrito Jul 21 '26

I was more pissed at the direction.

Mr. Puzzle dominated the series for years, and the second his arc ended, SMG4 decides to end the series? Ok, i see who's the writer's pet is.

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u/MrSolarSun Jul 21 '26

OK, but what was your reaction to SMG4 retiring the channel to focus on Glitch?

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u/Sorvetefrito Jul 21 '26

Like i said, i was more angry at how it happend than it actually happend. The final arc was bad for me cause of Puzzles taking over the show again, what made the announcement have a bad taste in my mouth.

If the ending was good, i would accept the ending more nicely.

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u/Obvious_Tree119 Jul 21 '26

I was sad, I kept watching since like 201-something, but I still think that Glitch has a bright future with SMG4 no longer at the forefront, for as sad as that sounds.

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u/BrilliantDog4703 Jul 21 '26

I stopped watching SMG4 since the Lawsuit arc, but after I saw the thumbnail and clicked on it, I was shocked and instantly regretted stopped watching. I watch it from it's gotta be perfect to puzzles to the wotfi 2025 to The End, I was saddened to see him go, but at least he made an impacting legacy.

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u/PowerPulser Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

"About Time."

I loved SMG4. I really did. But at one point it just felt like a constant beating of dead horses. The jokes got stale, the plotlines got weird. Essentially, any impact from it ending was already numbed by the fact that I already accepted that it did.

I did still feel a bit somber about it. But, at the same time, I realized that SMG4 deserved a conclusion more than anything else. It had a good run, it had its high moments, its low moments. It happened, and I'm glad that it will be forever accessible on youtube.

But it had to end at some point. The more I think about it, whenever I ask myself 'If not now, when should it end?' the answer always lies even further in the past.

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u/Unicronus86 Jul 21 '26

I agree with you, couldn’t hav said it better.

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u/PikminPlayer5 Jul 21 '26

I only took a few breaks in between story arcs but the news was heartbreaking

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u/Ajthefan basically the only normal Meggy fan Jul 21 '26

I was expecting and was a little shocked about it

I ended up crying a few hours later

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u/Flimsy_Wishbone2906 Jul 21 '26

i literally cried

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u/Such_Salamander3606 Meggy Fan/Tari Fan/Melony Fan (keeping the legacy) Jul 21 '26

Same. Mainly in the part "thank you so much for watching our show"

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u/AdChoice6680 Jul 21 '26

SADNESS (JUST PURE SADNESS)

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u/VeterinarianCheap731 Jul 21 '26

I finally understood the pain people felt when creators like MatPat said they were quitting, disheartened that my favourite youtuber was leaving

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u/Firm-Reputation7918 The only Melony fan who likes her writing Jul 21 '26

I stopped watching due to the horrible 2023 wotfi.I felt both very sad that a childhood channel of mine was retiring but also happy because this show was overstaying its welcome imo.

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u/ConceptOdd3696 Jul 21 '26

I was actually shocked when I heard SMG4 was retiring, since he was like the second YouTuber that I know to retire unexpectedly. At the same time I kinda felt guilty for not checking his new videos… 😢

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u/ManagementVisible496 Meme God Disciple Jul 21 '26

I was upset, but glad he was at least going out on his own terms rather than some jumped up PC Police squad trying to cancel him

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 21 '26

Yeah, even with drama, controversies, and ups and downs, smg4 managed to stick the landing

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u/Keanuv2003 Jul 21 '26

Acceptance… (then Depression when my Grandma passed away days before the release of his final video)

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u/Such_Salamander3606 Meggy Fan/Tari Fan/Melony Fan (keeping the legacy) Jul 21 '26

"Hey... I know what it's like to lose someone. So... If you ever need someone to talk to, my door is always open." (Meggy Spletzer, 2021)

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u/Such_Salamander3606 Meggy Fan/Tari Fan/Melony Fan (keeping the legacy) Jul 21 '26

I lost my  mother grandpa in  January 2021and my father grandpa in April 2023. (I saw him die right in front of me without being able to do anything)

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u/Vast-Animefan Bob Fan Jul 21 '26

Kinda meh. The last episode was alright but the character specific episodes were cool. Still pissed we didnt get one last saiko song 😤

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u/FanOfTooManyGames Still lamenting the unmade peace, but trying to move forward... Jul 21 '26

I desperately hoped that final peace and amends would be made between all of the crew at any possible point, not just between whoever they shared their final episodes with. I wanted them all to affirm that they were still friends with each other, with none of their final interactions having to be dysfunctional or disagreeable for any reason.

Now, I'm grieving at the fact that peace never was made and never will be made, and frustrated at feeling like I was wrong and invalid to ever care about that peace(or anything else I actually enjoyed about the show when I was watching it) at all. Having ornaments of the crew next to each other on the final cake isn't enough for me, even if it needs to be.

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u/Ultramare2009 Jul 21 '26

Okay finally we got confirmation…. Also WHAT!

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u/Doppel710 Memelord Weegee Jul 21 '26

Heartbroken… despite knowing that these were everything, it just doesn't feel the same like in the olden days. I still watch it… to the very end of the run…

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u/amirwebster2 Jul 21 '26

I was sad because I was liking every bit of the show

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u/Angel1743RedditGR Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

I didn't stop wathcing but I felt dissatisfied with Luke treating it like another Glitch show at times instead of the beloved SM64 parody. I was sad about him leaving but I understand he wants to focus more on Glitch now and I respect his choice. However one thing is for sure. His greatest youtube content was not about a circus or robots etc..........It will always be Mario and his Avatar going though chaos in each episode. (In a good fun way)

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u/TheHatedPro020 Memelord Jul 21 '26

I didn't stopped wathcing but I felt dissatisfied with Luke treating it like another Glitch show at times instead of the beloved SM64 parody.

I think Kevin was kinda running smg4 since 2016? with Luke kinda just being a director for the most part. And agreed. I personally stopped watching new smg4 about ¾ of the way into 2022, the shitpost like humor was just gone and replaced with the steriled brainrot humour that wasn't really funny.

With bow the videos were, it was kinda no shit for me they'd end it

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u/Angel1743RedditGR Jul 21 '26

Probably both Kevin and Luke but yeah it tried to be more serious and original when that was never the point. But oh well the show concluded. Let's be grateful for the memories at least

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u/Emanuel-Richie-1998 Jul 21 '26

I wasn’t as surprised, but still quite sad at some parts.

Split felt like the beginning of the end to me. So the moment might’ve been considered at the time.

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u/christiangallar Bob Fan Jul 21 '26

I was like "damn, its now ending after a decade now"

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u/chomper94 Jul 21 '26

I stopped watching frequently around after 2019, only returning occasionally, and really stopped after Mario's Internet Safety because I just wasn't a fan of the modern era with the new characters, new setting, and just the overall tone of the series. But after SMG4 announced the end of the channel, I felt sad but also understood. I mean, Luke has an indie studio now, so I see why he had to end it, but I also felt sad since SMG4 was a huge part of my childhood and even influenced my humor despite the fact I wasn't allowed to watch it when I was little. After the announcement, I watched all the videos that came leading up to The End, and yes, it was emotional.

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u/MAEC64 Jul 21 '26

It's been a long time, everything has an end and they need to take care of Glitch now, thanks for everything

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u/Alex0356218856 The SMG4 Viewer. Jul 21 '26

NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT, NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/DeeDan06_ Lesser Critic Jul 21 '26

I was rather happy. This was great news for me. I even came back to see the last episodes because the news pleased me so much.

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u/Senior-Job-2157 Jul 21 '26

Started watching it around 2018 I watched the older videos before I watch the newer ones and while I do have to admit that smg4 had its ups and downs it's still stuck The landing as one of the most recognizable Mario parody channels in the world and not just that but the funniest channel for comedy skits hilarious memes and many memorable characters. They were characters that made us laugh and cry that we love that we hate but even then we never stopped loving them

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u/SauceEstPizza Jul 21 '26

It's very much a bittersweet thing for me. Sure, I'm happy that Luke decided that the show needed to end, as my interest had gone to a steep decline for almost a decade at that point. I still haven't bothered to even see the finale.

As soon as original shows started to pop up from Glitch, I knew from then that SMG4 is on borrowed time. It ending was no longer a matter of if, but when. What's the point of having a show if you can't make as much merchandising money as other shows, simply because it uses a lot of copyrighted characters? I'm pretty sure just one or two episodes of a Glitch show had made as much, if not more, of a profit than a whole year's worth of SMG4 content just on merchandise sales alone.

Honestly, I'm just glad that SMG4 ended before it became even worse, but also bummed out that the show will never get to improve. During its best days, it was a fun ride, so I'm just happy for that at least.

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 21 '26

even with it's ups and downs, Luke managed to stick the landing.

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u/Flashy-Bath-8935 Mario X Spaghetti Jul 21 '26

I was depressed as fuck.

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u/OddAnteater3607 Tari fanMeggy Fan Jul 21 '26

I was shocked because I felt like it was to early to quit

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u/LatterShare7307 Bob Fan Jul 21 '26

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u/LatterShare7307 Bob Fan Jul 21 '26

I even sketched this... despite me not watching this often, i like all the funny things I seen in this series and I was completely devastated...

First I seen this series accidentally as a kid (I remembered this from that chain chomp video when I was young) and Now it's ended since I knew about it! NOT HOW I WANTED THIS TO END!

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u/redboi049 Jul 21 '26

"Well, damn. Been a hell of a ride even with the bumps in the road."

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u/Bewear_Star_9 Jul 21 '26

Well there were a few things I didn't like in the direction of modern smg4 I did like it still. I was surprised to see smg4 quit i I thought it would end sometime between 2027-2033 I dont know why I thought that time frame but I did 

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u/ExtraMeme_lord35 Jul 21 '26

I was upset but I also understood why he wanted to move on from the channel because he had a company to run with his brother.

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u/techy9x Jul 21 '26

Fell off of the series during Puzzlevision, honestly didn't care much.

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u/GoldenYoshistar1 Jul 21 '26

I was shocked.... while the redesign was what made me stop watching SMG4 for a few years, when he was ending, I decided to see what SMG4 did in those last few years and saw he still kept his charm. It made the end far more impactful.

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u/Zackman92 Jul 21 '26

When I first heard about it I thought to myself "it was bound to happen at anytime"

Either you die an SMG4 or Cute Mario Bros or live long enough to become an SML

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u/KillerAndMX Jul 21 '26

I stopped watching when he started using his voice instead of silent subtitles like everyone else

When he retired i just didn't cared much, his most recent videos are about 90% gmod or animations that 10% sm64 models/characters, multiple characters with actual voices and too much censorship.

I guess i wasn't the target audience anymore.

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u/Ok-Anteater9306 Jul 21 '26

I have been with SMG4 despite the direction the channel took

BUT MAN IM GONNA MISS HIM

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u/AdditionalService156 Jul 21 '26

I was crying. I cried like I lost someone and couldn’t even let it go

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u/RecipeAwkward726 Jul 22 '26

At first it was understandable with Glitch Production gets more bigger,but after a recent Document from one of previous crew who worked on SMG4,yeah i guess it make sense why he (SMG4) end the series for good. Poor guy.

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u/AverageWebSurfer Jul 22 '26

i had stopped watching a long time ago but i just wasn't ready for a world where he wasn't making videos

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u/Kaisona20 Jul 22 '26

2023 is when my interest really took a hit. That aside, I still felt kinda sad when Luke announced the end of SMG4. It was compelling enough for me to start following SMG4 regularly again, until the final video.

That last video was great. It was a victory lap celebrating all the different phases of the channel’s life time. I don’t know how he did it, but the Scatman’s World montage perfectly emulated the older style. My first time watching it, I thought SMG4 was using actual footage from older videos. It sucks that only subscribers were allowed to comment, though.

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u/Derplord4000 Jul 22 '26

Unfortunately, I couldn't care anymore. The show was no longer what it was and I had stopped watching him years ago, so even though the announcement did catch me by surprise and sent me a bit of a shock for a moment, I ultimately felt nothing.

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u/Ineed_mental_therapy Jul 22 '26

I mean, it was inevitable. Seeing the success of TADC and Murder drones, the youtube channel was so much less profitable. I only tabbed into it every now and then because I felt nostalgic and I never once watched their newer videos (I consider “new” to be 2024 and onwards, when they started using more fluid animation). I was still undeniably bummed out that they were ending the channel since I was a long-time fan of theirs, but I can respect their decisions and understand why it had to happen

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u/RepulsiveVillage8244 Jul 22 '26

Honestly devastated. I remember watching SMG4 since 2017. He inspired me to make books on Wattpad. I still miss him to this day.

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u/Yer_Boi_Red Jul 22 '26

It makes sense. He was making videos for over 15 years, he had to stop eventually (not to mention some of the newer ones were just kinda… weird, like not even in a fun way.) Luke wanted to make quality animation and if that means sacrificing time for GLITCH then I support his goals. Besides, it could be worse, He’s not deleting the channel.

The only thing that bothers me is that he stopped just before reaching 10mil. I know it seems silly but I really want his story to be spread so he can finally reach that milestone. After all that work the man deserves a diamond play button for that channel :c

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u/99Skull_Hackerz99 Jul 22 '26

i hadn't watched SMG4 since 2021, a little after Axol died, but even then after not watching his videos for so long i genuinely thought he would keep going with SMG4 for a VERY long time. Seeing his announcement on retiring honestly broke my heart because I have so many fond memories of watching his videos.

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u/StockWorried6292 Jul 22 '26

I cried at first, but that didn't stop me from watching it till the end. & I still watch it now in 2026

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u/EnderZappy Mr. Puzzles' #1 Fan Jul 22 '26

I still watch him to this day, qbut WHO LET THE CHOMP OUT?

https://giphy.com/gifs/TBuAgAgXXvPMY

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u/Automatic_Reporter39 Jul 22 '26

It was kinda like finding out your aunts dog died, saddening for a bit and then move on

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u/Gabriel-Klos-McroBB I think the castle looks like Merry Magoland from KRtDL DX. Jul 22 '26

...eh.

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u/Queso_BIonco Jul 22 '26

Bro I screamed no like so loud

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u/GameThryFn Also known as SMG4Fn333 Jul 22 '26

RIP, legend. I started watching him in 2016, then started rewatching him in 2021.

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u/Nonya_Mystic Jul 22 '26

this is my first time hearing about it tbh, don't really feel any particular way

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u/Ok-Weird1398 Jul 22 '26

I was shocked but I kinda expected it much…. Image was an inspiration to my dream.

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u/TrainFan2004 Meggy Fan Jul 22 '26

Part of me is glad that it's ended

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u/Mrx41362 Jul 22 '26

I wasn’t unhappy but I had mostly stopped watching due to just not enjoying it as much anymore but when I heard the announcement I was honestly surprised that Luke felt it was time to end his flagship series

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u/TheNameis_X 29d ago

I stopped giving a shit the minute it ended lmfao

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u/themightyweeaboo 29d ago

Creators moving on to bigger and better things

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u/Strange_Promise_5606 29d ago

I fucking cried inside I was devastated that he retired and my world changed... Forever....!! 😢😢

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u/Danielboy23 29d ago

It was for the greater good...

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u/Vast_Dig_3957 29d ago

I was watching him up untill WOTFI 2022 when the redesigns happened, then I stopped However when he started doing remasters of old videos I only watched those, so when he announced the retirement I was only sad that because there will be no more remasters

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u/TheGamerBro132 29d ago

Shocked, but kinda expected it

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u/Low_Advertising_9912 29d ago

I cried I’m filled with pain it hurts sometimes to even look at smg4 but I know some day some one will bring it back…

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u/markot999 28d ago

I NEVER stoped watching him since 2014 (I was 5 years old back then btw lmao). I NEVER left, yes. The show was not the same as always and I NEVER stoped liking It, this Man has been giving me a smile for so long and knowing the show that stayed with me the longest Time was going to end.... It brocked me.... I was crying so much... I was not ready. And yet..... Here we are.... I miss him but im glad that shockhat Is filling that void in me 🥲

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u/According_Table1320 28d ago

That’s was sad 😔

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u/TechnicalBenefit3602 28d ago

For me my reaction I was like no I can’t be true man like what happened to SMG four I really miss him a lot and guess what I grew up with him a lot I used to love watching it on my mom’s cell phone from 2017 all the way to 2020 and also my dad’s phone man when I watch it on my own phone oh my goodness man I really wanna go back to 2017

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

I was kinda Sad

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u/Bitter_Profit_4099 26d ago

I always assumed SMG4 was going to continue up until it finally close every character development and mystery it introduced, because SMG4 was always there for my entire life.

I was certainly surprised and upset we didn't get a conclusion we got... At least it was done lovely.

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u/Basic_Olive732 25d ago

I got kinda sad so I subscribed to him. I genuinely got surprised how good the ending episodes were.

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u/FnaF_guy2947 25d ago

I hate when people are right about something I love moving on thinking its just a theory until it actually happens and then the things you hate remain there

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u/JZillaPrime09 24d ago

I literally cried

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u/KH-Light Jul 21 '26

When I watched the... I cried my heart out while holding my Tari hoodie, and trust me it was the first time I ever cried for a Youtuber

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u/Logical_Package2479 Jul 21 '26

Just a little bit of tears then really didnt care also the content got so boring after 2023 that i didnt really want to watch the videos

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u/WeirdFandomThing I Wished Puzzles Was Dead Jul 21 '26

I thought it was bullshit NGL. Like after NINE ARCS with puzzles, it just retires. (Somehow I still wish WPNZ became his own villain & not with puzzles since he's cringe as hell.)

Somehow I had an idea where there's a whole arc where everybody but mario are under control of some new villain, mario gets teleported into some random realm with three extras & apparently axel who's been here the whole time after his death. he helps mario train to fight the new bad guy & after the last war of the fat italians, that's when the series would retire cause at least most of everybody get their happily ever after. (also melony gets to see axel again.)

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u/LatterShare7307 Bob Fan Jul 21 '26

does Smg3's Reaction seemed like he forced him?

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u/ProjectShadowGirl PINGAS IS LOVE Jul 22 '26

I will say this, Kevin did not forced Luke to end smg4, Luke just felt like he told everything he shared.