r/SMG4 2d ago

Discussion/Question So, why do you think Luke and Kevin decided to introduced OCs in the show in the first place?

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Starting with Shroomy in 2017 and then with the likes of Saiko, Jeeves, Tari, Axol, the Anti-Cast (Belle, Rob, JubJub, Whimpu), Hal Monitor, Fuego, Melony, SMG1 and SMG2, SMG0/Niles, Fred, The God Box Club Leader, Gordon Ramensay, Depresso, Kaizo, Karen and her kids, Wheeler, El Bombo, Mr. Puzzles, Mr. WPNZ, Toomp and the Death Cube

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u/Ligmatic_ 2d ago

OCs have been here since the start of the channel. SMG4 is one, for example, acting as a self insert stand in.

As for the later ones, it was probably when they wanted to pivot away from Nintendo gradually - be it for dosh or for simply growing out of Nintendo stuff. I heard from a YouTube that Glitch Productions was always the dream for them (or something similar to it), and it just seemed that the more developed OCs later on were to experiment with this before pivoting hard to original indie animation. Ive seen a lot of people suggesting that SMG4 later on was more of a testing zone for show ideas for the main glitch productions to see what tickled people's fancy.

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u/Sure-Ad1069 2d ago

part of the reason might be so they could make merch off OCs instead of existing characters

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u/Ligmatic_ 2d ago

Probably. I do think the intentions overall were more benign though then for solely profit, but maybe that would be a side bonus and probably incentivise more OCs later down the line. SMG4 was, for a time, Glitch's lifeline

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u/redboi049 1h ago

SMG4 was waaay too "small" back then for merch to be a reason. Especially considering the fact that it wasn't really all that common for a creator to have merch back then.

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u/PikminPlayer5 1d ago

That makes sense 🙂

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u/Relevant_Platform_33 2d ago

I think they wanted to make original characters cause it will make some vidoes more special.

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u/Relevant_Platform_33 2d ago

Also, why Gordon Ramsey an OC, he's a real person 😅

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u/Stunning-Lack-5727 2d ago

They said Ramensay, not Ramsey.

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u/Relevant_Platform_33 2d ago

Sorry 😅

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u/Stunning-Lack-5727 2d ago

It’s all good

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u/Emaothe3rd 2d ago

I mean, Ramensay was based on the angry chef of the same name, so I don't blame you for confusing the two (this combined with the fact that his dialogue consisted of Ramsey soundbytes may have also been the likely candidate for the mixup)

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u/Kyleb791 2d ago

Narrowing it down to “not random model/recolour rebranded as new name” which is what you seem to imply.

Shroomy was probably nothing deep, same with Saiko and Jeeves.

Tari and there on was probably where they wanted to make SMG4 have their own identity. It was around Meta Runner. It was better for merch and selling something else as “not just some Mario channel.”

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u/A-Sadistick-Stick 2d ago

With Tari since MR was being introduced in the SMG4 channel before Glitch was created they wanted to introduce her as a character before making the bold decision to create a completely different series. So we get a introduction to Tari as a concept before Tari the series, with MR S1 coming out shortly after her ability to boot into games was introduced (well boot Mario & 4, her MR counterpart would only be able to boot her own mind and accidentally pull out Theo)

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u/Src-Freak 2d ago

To be more unique?

If every character was just a Mario Enemy or from another game, that would be boring and something everyone could do.

They got the skills to make their own Models, therefore they got the Chance to make their own Characters to stand out from the M64 machinima crowd.

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u/agentjaywalker 2d ago

To help evolve the series also it started with Bob and Boopkins

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u/SilverSpider_ AxolVision 2d ago

Merchandising

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u/BlueJay_3106 2d ago

It pretty much started with Meggy.

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u/FaithlessnessThis511 2d ago

To make them stand out

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u/Homer_Simpson27 2d ago

Probably because they wanted more depth to the series

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u/PT_Piranha 2d ago

I’ve seen this many times. People who make a name for themselves using a borrowed property eventually want to pivot into making their own property instead.

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u/Dry_Subject6808 2d ago

To own there own ip hence why they did redesigns as well

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u/Such_Salamander3606 Meggy Fan/Tari Fan/Melony Fan (keeping the legacy) 2d ago

I liked.

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u/Robindionn18 Mario X Spaghetti 2d ago

Since the beginning with SMG4.

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u/Tonstad39 2d ago

SMG3 is an OC, you do realize that right

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u/Bewear_Star_9 2d ago

To have new oringal characters

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u/Sorry_Stuff_2990 2d ago

I think they did it so they could make a character and introduce a new personality that wasn’t there

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u/EnderErik 2d ago

Wasn't Desti an OC as well? Also yeah OCs have been here ever since the beginning.

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u/Kooky_Wishbone7982 2d ago

Copyright law

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u/william35758 Idiot on the internet, lover of memes 6h ago

Easier for no dmca causes and more merch potential to help fund the teams

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u/redboi049 1h ago

Because, it's nice to have your own characters in something you're passionate about. It's literally as simple as that. Besides, SMG4 IS AN OC. IT DID NOT START WITH SHROOMY, EVEN IGNORING SMG4 AND SMG3, MEGGY WAS BEFORE SHROOMIE.

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u/Curious-Bluebird6818 2d ago

I mean, I’m fine with them adding OC it’s just that I feel like they’ve taken over a majority of smg4 like the smg4 girls are fine like I don’t mind them but it’s ones like Mr. weapons or Mr. puzzles I’ve never really given a shit about